Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh ? #5

[dodie20]

There isn't one person involved in this mess who I wouldn't suspect to some degree. Watching Ron's jailhouse tapes, convinces me even more that he did something. But what, I don't know. @ the very least, he put his love for Misty & his love for his lifestyle over the love for his kids. Is it really possible that a father would cover the death of his child just to keep his lifestyle a secret? Well, it's not a secret anymore, so if that's the case, he can feel free to talk. Since these arrests, I'm also becoming more convinced that Misty is involved in a big way. When her dad was pleading with her to put an end to this, she should've broken down & agreed. But she didn't. My gut has always said that Ron & his temper is what happened, but there are just too many players with drug lifestyles to protect, to get to the truth.

 

[elle1919]

new here..this may be old news but..has anyone seen the article that had been posted on someone's photobucket account..it was sorta like a tip. It stated that it was a known fact that where RC worked, the guards were paid to "not" notice if someone left work without clocking out? Saw it awhile back, sorry can't remember more details. The climate in that area seems to be you can get anything you pay for. Watching with interest.. hoping you all can help find Haleigh!

Howdy there and welcome to you.

I haven't saw the photo bucket you mean, maybe someone will be able to help you though, glad you joined in!

 

[raisincharlie]

No, Haleigh was in school and rode the bus according to eyewitnesses, I will try to go back and find LE corroboration of the facts though, I lose track of the lies and the truth in this case. Art Harris can't always be quoted as fact in my opinion, but I realize there were a few months there where he was almost alone in his reporting on Haleigh so for that I am grateful at least.

I tend to believe Haleigh was at school that day as well. She may have been late by a bit though. Too many have reported seeing her get off the bus - no one reported Ron as being the one who picked her up though, except for family, who were no where near the bus stop.

I tend to think she was as the reason the pink shirt was found was because LE took Misty back into the house to find the clothes that Haleigh wore to school that day. I might add I always found this interesting in and of itself. Why would her school clothes matter ? LE was up to something right then and they found it.

 

[archenemy toenail]

I'm wondering what time on Monday TN called Misty and offered to pay her for her babysitting services. Misty allegedly told her she'd do it if it was okay with Ron. If neither of them could get a hold of Ron, maybe Misty went ahead and picked Haleigh up at the bus stop thinking that they needed her to do it. Could she have ended up with Haleigh without Ron's permission after school?

 

[Emeralgem]

I tend to believe Haleigh was at school that day as well. She may have been late by a bit though. Too many have reported seeing her get off the bus - no one reported Ron as being the one who picked her up though, except for family, who were no where near the bus stop.

I tend to think she was as the reason the pink shirt was found was because LE took Misty back into the house to find the clothes that Haleigh wore to school that day. I might add I always found this interesting in and of itself. Why would her school clothes matter ? LE was up to something right then and they found it.

BBM. I'm inclined to believe what Jerry S stated to AH..
One thing, I readily admit.. I haven't paid real close attention to the shirt that was found...Just wondering though IF the shirt she was wearing somehow found its way back to the MH several days after the incident... Perhaps after it had been washed and laundered.. My understanding from what I believe Wayanne K has stated, Ron C readily had access to the MH while LE was in there gathering evidence...Any thoughts on this possibly being the case? JMO

 

[raisincharlie]

BBM. I'm inclined to believe what Jerry S stated to AH..
One thing, I readily admit I haven't paid real close attention to the shirt that was found...Just wondering though IF the shirt she was wearing somehow found its way back to the MH several days after the incident... Perhaps after it had been washed and laundered.. My understand from what I believe Wayanne K has stated he readily had access to the MH while LE was in there gathering evidence...Any thoughts on this possibly being the case? JMO

Let me premise this by saying I don't put much stock in anything Wayanne K has stated. Second - anyone entering the mh while it was under LE control would have to be logged in. The only way anyone other then LE would be allowed to enter would have been under escort by LE - Misty was under escort. If Ron entered while LE had control it would have been under escort as well. I don't recall reading anything about Ron being allowed in but that doesn't mean it didn't happen - LE knows.

 

[News Junkie]

That's what I have been thinking about since day one. Just to add....I think Misty was told about what happened to Haleigh after the fact and that's why she failed those questions on her LDTs. That's why TN/GMS praised Misty in the beginning....Misty followed the script...that's why LE considers Misty the "KEY".....Misty is the weak link in the circle.

I'm thinking that TN/Ron tried all they could to get Misty back and Misty walked right into this mess. They offered her sex and money (and probably a free "high") to get Misty back to that mh. Ron-"bring a condom".......TN-"I'll pay you to babysit". All part of the plan..JMO

TN stated that Misty and Ron were up all night sunday night talking....We heard that Misty called WBG at around 4a in the morning sunday night......Do you think that Misty would call another guy while she was in the mh with Ron? I don't think so. We heard the story about going to GMS monday morning to get clothes (which I think is BS).....Now we hear from GMS that Misty didn't show up to the mh until it was time for Ron to go work (slip of the tongue?). We don't know what time Ron went to work but I'm thinking it was late afternoon 5pm-ish. That would explain why Hank and the kids were there around 5pm-ish....was he there to drop her off? Remember Misty's statement "haleigh was riding her bike and doing fine". When I first heard her say that I thought, "would there be a reason why she wouldn't be doing fine?" Now I wonder if there really was a reason that she wouldn't be doing fine...maybe at about 7pm Haleigh took a turn for the worse and that's why GMS (and probably TN too) felt the need to go to the mh with a nurse. I think Misty may have left the mh but she was with GMS/TN/Aunt Lisa and that's why when Tommy went to the mh around 10p Misty was not there.

This last paragraph makes way to much sense.

 

[Emeralgem]

Let me premise this by saying I don't put much stock in anything Wayanne K has stated. Second - anyone entering the mh while it was under LE control would have to be logged in. The only way anyone other then LE would be allowed to enter would have been under escort by LE - Misty was under escort. If Ron entered while LE had control it would have been under escort as well. I don't recall reading anything about Ron being allowed in but that doesn't mean it didn't happen - LE knows.

Seriously, I don't know much about the woman.. IIRC she talked about him going in and out of the MH on Levi's show about a week or so ago..JMO

 

[Emeralgem]

I'm wondering what time on Monday TN called Misty and offered to pay her for her babysitting services. Misty allegedly told her she'd do it if it was okay with Ron. If neither of them could get a hold of Ron, maybe Misty went ahead and picked Haleigh up at the bus stop thinking that they needed her to do it. Could she have ended up with Haleigh without Ron's permission after school?

I have entertained that thought... JS claims Misty picked her up from the bus stop and Misty headed in the oppostie direction.. Someone, sometime back, stated Ron C showed up there too..I'm thinking he was furious Misty picked up Haleigh, drove off and didn't bring her home and he went after her.JMO

 

[Kimster]

new here..this may be old news but..has anyone seen the article that had been posted on someone's photobucket account..it was sorta like a tip. It stated that it was a known fact that where RC worked, the guards were paid to "not" notice if someone left work without clocking out? Saw it awhile back, sorry can't remember more details. The climate in that area seems to be you can get anything you pay for. Watching with interest.. hoping you all can help find Haleigh!

Interesting first post! I haven't heard about that before? :waitasec: Was it mentioned on RC's work schedule thread? I don't think so?

SOOOOOOOOO glad you joined us! :blowkiss:

 

[seekjustice]

TN stresses that RC and Misty were up late Sun night resolving their issues. Since pretty much everything she says is false, I'm gonna go with the opposite. Monday I believe the eyewitnesses saw Misty picking up Haleigh. She most likely assumed she was supposed to.
I think this narrows in on the timing of Haleigh's tragedy. RC was still ticked and another fight ensues when he catches up with Misty. Misty most likely took off afterwards...thus TN begs her to come back that night to "watch the kids"
During these hours leading up to RC leaving for work is when it's discovered what kind of trauma Haleigh experienced due to RC's anger.
They have to get Misty back because nobody else is willing to be the one there when Haleigh supposedly vanishes into thin air.
They figure Misty's just a dumb kid, coming off of 3 day drug binge, she's exhausted, everyone will believe her...
Just my thoughts

 

[seekjustice]

So, we're on a different track now? Haleigh wasn't in school that Monday? She didn't get off the bus at all? That's all been established?

No, I believe she arrived at school but was late. And I believe she was picked up at the bustop just as reported. I'm just under the opinion that what happened to her occured shortly thereafter.

 

[seekjustice]

That's actually a very interesting theory, but I think some witnesses claim Misty picked Haleigh up from the bus stop, but your theory does explain why we can't hear Jr. on the 911.

It's very possible and likely Misty did pick up Haleigh, it was after this incident that TN had to call her to come back to the MH that night. JMO.

 

[dodie20]

Sometimes, it's the weird things that jump out @ you, in this case. To me, one of the weirdest was Ron's demeanor in the 911. One thing that really bugged me was the way he talked about Misty. He cussed her & called her names, but he also called her his girlfriend. Those 2 things don't jibe. What should have been the darkest moment in his life, should also have been the moment he separated himself from her-especially after the few days they had just had. They had essentially broken up, she had been with another man, & wasn't answering his calls. So, why did he insist on calling her his girlfriend?

 

[debs]

Sometimes, it's the weird things that jump out @ you, in this case. To me, one of the weirdest was Ron's demeanor in the 911. One thing that really bugged me was the way he talked about Misty. He cussed her & called her names, but he also called her his girlfriend. Those 2 things don't jibe. What should have been the darkest moment in his life, should also have been the moment he separated himself from her-especially after the few days they had just had. They had essentially broken up, she had been with another man, & wasn't answering his calls. So, why did he insist on calling her his girlfriend?

As was explained to those of us who commented on this behavior, he loved her and she was a comfort for him in his worst time. I believe the response to that explanation was a collective guffaw. It was, in fact, the very act of asking her to marry him which sent up the last of the rockets to suggest that Ronald Cummings knew what happened to his child and he, along with Misty, were bound together in a fatalistic way that even star-crossed lovers never experience.

 

[Emeralgem]

TN stresses that RC and Misty were up late Sun night resolving their issues. Since pretty much everything she says is false, I'm gonna go with the opposite. Monday I believe the eyewitnesses saw Misty picking up Haleigh. She most likely assumed she was supposed to.
I think this narrows in on the timing of Haleigh's tragedy. RC was still ticked and another fight ensues when he catches up with Misty. Misty most likely took off afterwards...thus TN begs her to come back that night to "watch the kids"
During these hours leading up to RC leaving for work is when it's discovered what kind of trauma Haleigh experienced due to RC's anger.
They have to get Misty back because nobody else is willing to be the one there when Haleigh supposedly vanishes into thin air.
They figure Misty's just a dumb kid, coming off of 3 day drug binge, she's exhausted, everyone will believe her...
Just my thoughts

Interesting theory, but I never quite thought of it being played out like you describe..
I am more inclined to believe something tragic happened to Haleigh when Ron C caught up with Misty... And one of them, either Ron or Misty, called TN and told her what had happened...They then decided to initiate a coverup..JMO

 

[MADJGNLAW]

Sometimes, it's the weird things that jump out @ you, in this case. To me, one of the weirdest was Ron's demeanor in the 911. One thing that really bugged me was the way he talked about Misty. He cussed her & called her names, but he also called her his girlfriend. Those 2 things don't jibe. What should have been the darkest moment in his life, should also have been the moment he separated himself from her-especially after the few days they had just had. They had essentially broken up, she had been with another man, & wasn't answering his calls. So, why did he insist on calling her his girlfriend?

:waitasec: I wonder if at that moment someone else was in the home? Before LE got there. Ronald talked to Misty in such an abusive way...CS said he talked to her that way to though. I have always wondered if anyone else was there, don't know why.

 

[dodie20]

As was explained to those of us who commented on this behavior, he loved her and she was a comfort for him in his worst time. I believe the response to that explanation was a collective guffaw. It was, in fact, the very act of asking her to marry him which sent up the last of the rockets to suggest that Ronald Cummings knew what happened to his child and he, along with Misty, were bound together in a fatalistic way that even star-crossed lovers never experience.

Oh, I believe he loved her, but if she was really responsible for Haleigh missing, I don't think he would've gotten much comfort from her. He has to be involved. If that letter is correct, & there was an overdose, there is no way, he could've stayed with her-especially @ 1st. unless there is something, (besides drugs), seriously wrong with him. I keep going back to the question, 'Would Ron put his love for Misty-a wild, teen girl, he hadn't even been with but a few months, over his love for his kids?' I guess, it's possible, but that's sick in a macabre way. I can really only think that Ron is responsible. I'm sorry to ramble, but Misty STILL not talking, has me asking questions.

 

[debs]

Oh, I believe he loved her, but if she was really responsible for Haleigh missing, I don't think he would've gotten much comfort from her. He has to be involved. If that letter is correct, & there was an overdose, there is no way, he could've stayed with her-especially @ 1st. unless there is something, (besides drugs), seriously wrong with him. I keep going back to the question, 'Would Ron put his love for Misty-a wild, teen girl, he hadn't even been with but a few months, over his love for his kids?' I guess, it's possible, but that's sick in a macabre way. I can really only think that Ron is responsible. I'm sorry to ramble, but Misty STILL not talking, has me asking questions.

Ron put his desire to traffic drugs over the love of his son. So yeah, anything is possible, even if it is macabre.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

No, I believe she arrived at school but was late. And I believe she was picked up at the bus stop just as reported. I'm just under the opinion that what happened to her occurred shortly thereafter.

I wish I had the article handy, it's not that old and it's here somewhere.


Just wanted to mention that the media reported that neighbor heard screaming and crying around 3AM and then shortly after LE showed and searched their home as well. There had been rumors a while back of one of the neighbors hearing screaming around 2-2:30AM. LE got the call at 3:27AM but were on Tyler street prior. It was also reported that Haleigh had been seen 1 - 1/2 hrs prior to the 911 call. I really wish that if anyone heard or seen anything from midnight to 3AM they reported it to LE.


In Misty LVA test she said that Tommy and his 3 kids were at the MH at 4PM when Haleigh got off the bus stop. The people at the bus stop claim Misty picked up Haleigh. Complained of some bad drugs she had just gotten. I wonder if Misty, Tommy and the kids didn't take off to get more drugs return to the MH sometime before GGMS came over and the A/C guy and took off again to score more drugs and that is how Haleigh got into someones stash? Or Ron found her after numerous attempts to call her and Haleigh was caught in the middle and got hurt some how. Whether by accident or a strong blow from an enraged father while he was fighting with Misty?