Theories On What Happened to Caylee Part #1

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To me, it seems that there are several places that Casey could have left Caylee's body.

1. in water, weighted down.
2. buried, but what would she have wrapped Caylee with
3. in a dumpster, considering the Colorado murder.

Anyone else have any thoughts on how Casey might have disposed of Caylee's body?
 
my theory is that she gave her away and this is how she knows that Caylee is OK, not that anyone reached out to her.


All over the place?
nobody could hide her that well could they?

:confused:
 
To me, it seems that there are several places that Casey could have left Caylee's body.

1. in water, weighted down.
2. buried, but what would she have wrapped Caylee with
3. in a dumpster, considering the Colorado murder.

Anyone else have any thoughts on how Casey might have disposed of Caylee's body?



where she left the car...
 
Originally Posted by SWAG1959 View Post
"Ok - here we go

Caylee is alive and well and living in Puerto Rico with her bio father - Ricardo!"

If that's the case where's Ricardo? Has he left town? Where is this theory about Ricardo coming from? Has he been MIA since this whole thing went down?

Just a logical question...
 
All over the place?
nobody could hide her that well could they?

:confused:


YES, they can.... ELIZABETH SMART! Perfect example as to how someone can be missing and under everyone's nose. She even recalls watching news media coverage about herself and couldn't come forward.
 
where she left the car...

I have wondered about the water theroy as well. Especially because I heard somewhere, Im not sure where I heard they laid new cement. What if they laid the cement to cover the reason they really bought the cement.??

I have also wondered about the blackout theroy someone posted a little earlier and she actually forgot where Caylee is.

Who knows, maybe she has a split personality and she is really "the babysitter".

I am worried because they are all so calm. Not even giving one hint of "what if we are caught". do they really think they are that good at getting away with this?
 
I have wondered about the water theroy as well. Especially because I heard somewhere, Im not sure where I heard they laid new cement. What if they laid the cement to cover the reason they really bought the cement.??


They didn't lay new cement or concrete, they laid pavers.

The report on the cement has been reported as...

The report on the cement has been reported as being incorrect per LE news conference. They had some pavers in the back but LE took those up during the search.
 
Originally Posted by SWAG1959 View Post
"Ok - here we go

Caylee is alive and well and living in Puerto Rico with her bio father - Ricardo!"

If that's the case where's Ricardo? Has he left town? Where is this theory about Ricardo coming from? Has he been MIA since this whole thing went down?

Just a logical question...
Ah - now that is the million dollar question. We "think" he has been questioned by LE - I believe that has been stated somewhere in this myriad of thousands and thousands of posting documents. But, he could have been questioned over the phone because he is still in Puerto Rico. I have asked and asked and no one can tell me if he has come back from PR - we know Amy did and Casey picked her up at the airport - well if he did too - why weren't BOTH of them picked up by Casey? A new one thrown into this is JP Chatt - he also has big ties to Puerto Rico as well. Ricardo is supposedly ex-LE - yet I have yet to hear what department, division, etc. etc. To me silence is more telling in cases like this than any lie put out there. Take that as you will.
 
IMO ( brace yourselves it may be out there) what if grandpa is really daddy which explains why Mommy appears to have overly sexualized b/x. Mommy decides to protect baby by "sending her away"
 
I think she was involved in drug smuggling maybe with the m13, she is giving a what looks like m13 hand signal in pic at fusion and profile with all the guns has same sign. These people are connected to the DBC pr company and now with the cans being so important, that profile with "I am the boy that set your girl on fire" is really creepy".
UPDATE:
If links dont work checkout http://www.myspace.com/southernseedz
This is the contact for the DBC posting on craigslist. In pics at Fusian were shirts with DBC. Also in a fusian pic is casey signaling m13 in a pic? I think the page is done by the same person as under friends "Mrmann", also the profile "Pro" http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...riendid=687570 that has the quote "I am the boy that set your girl on fire" the other guy in the pic looks like friend "blackshades" who has a second myspace profile in the "blackshades" friends list "franz". His pics include gang signs, drugs, guns. Is his hand signal also m13, similar to caseys in pic at club?


1.Craigslist Posting

"What up Rock Bands of all kinds I'm Dru with D.B.C Entertainment
and our current project is putting together a few local bands every
week to play LIVE in front of a large Fusian audience if interested
contact Drew Heyman @ DBCentertainment@gmail.com
or www.myspace.com/scoobydru
www.myspace.com/southernseedz
Drew Heyman (954)993-1400 for further info."
2.This is a friend of Caseys.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ve9878/pro.jpg

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...riendid=687570
PRO
"I am the boy that set your girl on fire"
Male
21 years old
Winter Park, FLORIDA
United States
3.I believe these are the same people:(MRmann, southernseedz, Pro)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=24379052
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...riendid=687570
http://www.myspace.com/southernseedz (white guy in pic)
4.I think the black guy in the southernseedz pic is this guy with 2 profiles (blackshades, franz)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=80391204
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=201042200

Look at all these guns and drugs!!!Blackshades myspace pics
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...2200&albumId=0
 
Because of the cadaver dogs hitting in the back yard, imo Caylee was killed there at the house. Because gp is saying how he saw Casey and Caylee leave the house on Monday, imo he is covering for her and does know things after the fact. Casey could have hidden the body until she was ready to move her to a more permanent location. She could have been in the playhouse or even unside the sandbox with the cover on. The day she borrowed the shovel, backed the car into the garage and stole the gas cans was when Caylee was moved, her body would have already been decomposing so even if she had only moved her a short distance there would have been a very strong smell left in the trunk. Casey used the gas to burn, either the body or other evidence she needed to get rid of or both.
Casey went to look at the apartment on the 17th impersonating the so-called nanny and began weaving the tale she would use.
The thing I can't get a handle on now since Caylee hasn't been found is, how did she die? Father's day had just happened, did Caylee get curious and begin asking where her father was, who her father is? Did that trigger something inside Casey and she snapped? I don't see it as something accidental, if it was an accident she could have called for help, something happened that Casey felt very responsible for and she had to cover it up before it was found out.
I saw something on the local news the other day, a man was seen outside of a hotel, kicking his baby girl like a football! Someone saw it and called police. Turns out he was mad at the mother and took it out on the baby, baby was found with a big bruise on her face. What I'm trying to say is, many times someone does something in the heat of anger, that baby was lucky and was not killed, Caylee was not so lucky.

VB
 
I believe something happened inside the house on the night of the 15th.

If accidental then Casey started a fight with her mother on the 16th because she had no choice but to make her mother believe she was taking Caylee. I don't believe this because she would have just as easily planned a home invasion kidnap type story.

If an act of rage then I think it happened on the night of the 15th. There was a fight a Casey wanted Caylee gone. Casey mentioned in her first phone call "all they want is Caylee back" and her mom referred to jealousy in her myspace blog. Obviously Casey was jealous of Caylee. She reminds me of a spoiled teenager. I don't think she ever felt a motherly bond with Caylee, I am almost positive Cindy took care of this child. Having a child also changed things, her parents wanted her to be responsible,etc. I am sure there were many fights about Casey's partying lifestyle.

I believe she visited the apartment and used the name Zenaida to start a paper trail, she stole the gas cans to avoid her movements being traced on her mother's credit card, she left her purse in the car with a plan to report a carjacking.

Casey thinks she is a brilliant liar...and she is good. But I think things kept happening because she wasn't good enough to make her child disappear.
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I think Casey left home with Caylee to show that she could indeed do it herself or to spite GM......Caylee begged for GM and the only home she had ever known....Casey can't take it anymore as she's used to being able to do minimal parenting with Caylee...Caylee keeps asking for GM and Casey snaps. Puts Caylee's body in the trunk to figure out what to do...abandons the car to burn it later on so that she looks like a victim as well....Mom finds her before she can insert herself as a victim as well and ruins her plan. Has to backtrack and leave some bread crumbs. Just a wild theory!
 
I think she was involved in drug smuggling maybe with the m13, she is giving a what looks like m13 hand signal in pic at fusion and profile with all the guns has same sign. These people are connected to the DBC pr company and now with the cans being so important, that profile with "I am the boy that set your girl on fire" is really creepy".
UPDATE:
If links dont work checkout http://www.myspace.com/southernseedz
This is the contact for the DBC posting on craigslist. In pics at Fusian were shirts with DBC. Also in a fusian pic is casey signaling m13 in a pic? I think the page is done by the same person as under friends "Mrmann", also the profile "Pro" http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...riendid=687570 that has the quote "I am the boy that set your girl on fire" the other guy in the pic looks like friend "blackshades" who has a second myspace profile in the "blackshades" friends list "franz". His pics include gang signs, drugs, guns. Is his hand signal also m13, similar to caseys in pic at club?


1.Craigslist Posting

"What up Rock Bands of all kinds I'm Dru with D.B.C Entertainment
and our current project is putting together a few local bands every
week to play LIVE in front of a large Fusian audience if interested
contact Drew Heyman @ DBCentertainment@gmail.com
or www.myspace.com/scoobydru
www.myspace.com/southernseedz
Drew Heyman (954)993-1400 for further info."
2.This is a friend of Caseys.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ve9878/pro.jpg

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...riendid=687570
PRO
"I am the boy that set your girl on fire"
Male
21 years old
Winter Park, FLORIDA
United States
3.I believe these are the same people:(MRmann, southernseedz, Pro)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=24379052
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...riendid=687570
http://www.myspace.com/southernseedz (white guy in pic)
4.I think the black guy in the southernseedz pic is this guy with 2 profiles (blackshades, franz)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=80391204
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=201042200

Look at all these guns and drugs!!!Blackshades myspace pics
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...2200&albumId=0

I could not get to most of the myspace pages. must of delelted them for evidence.
I just seen on the news channel 6 florida that they think possibly she possed as the babysitter and filled out the guest card at the appartments she must of discissed herself.:behindbar
that quote above by Pro creaps me out. How far is Winter Park from there house?:confused:
 
I'm sorry folks but I just can't give up hope until LE gives us a definite statement that Caylee is no longer alive. Has anyone wondered at all about the possibility that prostitution may be a part of this scene? I found this news report for Tampa today and it is dated June 24. It is about a woman leaving her child with a sitter, who was also her pimp and he kept the child from her. Things like this do happen. I also wonder if anyone has given thought to possibly someone besides Casey might have looked at that apt? This is a theory thread so I thought I would post. Here is the link to the Tampa story, amazing that it is so recent.
http://www.jacksonville.com/apnews/stories/062308/D91FN9V82.shtml
 
I think winter park is a part of the orlando area. Reread the whole post again and go to the myspace pages through the update directions after. but the post explains who each is.

I could not get to most of the myspace pages. must of delelted them for evidence.
I just seen on the news channel 6 florida that they think possibly she possed as the babysitter and filled out the guest card at the appartments she must of discissed herself.:behindbar
that quote above by Pro creaps me out. How far is Winter Park from there house?:confused:
 
I'm sorry folks but I just can't give up hope until LE gives us a definite statement that Caylee is no longer alive. Has anyone wondered at all about the possibility that prostitution may be a part of this scene? I found this news report for Tampa today and it is dated June 24. It is about a woman leaving her child with a sitter, who was also her pimp and he kept the child from her. Things like this do happen. I also wonder if anyone has given thought to possibly someone besides Casey might have looked at that apt? This is a theory thread so I thought I would post. Here is the link to the Tampa story, amazing that it is so recent.
http://www.jacksonville.com/apnews/stories/062308/D91FN9V82.shtml

In the Orange County criminal records, I found a Cynthia M. Anthony involved in a prostitution case in 2005, although I realize it's a popular name and the chances there is another one is probably very possible.
I think the birthdate was off, so I didn't dig any deeper.
 
I'm sorry folks but I just can't give up hope until LE gives us a definite statement that Caylee is no longer alive. Has anyone wondered at all about the possibility that prostitution may be a part of this scene? I found this news report for Tampa today and it is dated June 24. It is about a woman leaving her child with a sitter, who was also her pimp and he kept the child from her. Things like this do happen. I also wonder if anyone has given thought to possibly someone besides Casey might have looked at that apt? This is a theory thread so I thought I would post. Here is the link to the Tampa story, amazing that it is so recent.
http://www.jacksonville.com/apnews/stories/062308/D91FN9V82.shtml

I think that is a good theory. Admitting to being a prostitute would be hard. Drugs, eh, so what, but a prostitute that may explain her obstinance and lies.

I just thought of something that happend when I was about 15. My parent's were fighting and I said something (can't remember exactly) in an attempt to stand up for my mom or take her side.

We were in the car and after I said this my dad reached back and hit he on the leg hard. (Yes we is an .) Anyway, I was reading all these posts about jealousy and maybe Casey was in a rage because Caylee was calling for Cindy or refused to stop calling Cindy mom. Maybe Casey just snapped. They say sometimes you don't know someone is crazy until they get really mad...
 
My theory:

Here's how I think it went down.

Since we suspect that she was already setting up a story on the 17th by visiting the Sawgrass as "Zenaida," then I believe that it happened on the 16th. Maybe the morning of the 17th.

I'm guessing that there was a throw-down between Cindy and Casey on the night of the 15th/morning of the 16th about Casey's lifestyle...Cindy was always having to watch Caylee while Casey partied like a rock star and refused to get a job. Additionally, Casey always asserted herself as Caylee's mother, but took no responsibility for Caylee--her hackles went up anytime Cindy said something about the party environment that she exposed Caylee to, and about Casey doing nothing to help with household bills. But mostly, she wanted Casey to be a responsible parent to her daughter, and to realize that mothers don't go out and party and sleep around when they have children...but Casey laid the guilt trip on Cindy..."You told me when I came to you pregnant that you wanted me to have this baby. But I never intended to give up my social life!" Casey got sick of telling Cindy, "I'm her mother, so you really have no say in how I raise Caylee. If you don't like it, we'll just leave, and you'll never see her again."

Casey and Caylee left.

Maybe Caylee asked to go see CiCi. Maybe she said she missed CiCi. In anger and because of resentment toward Cindy, Casey retalliated against Cindy the most painful way she could. She killed Casey on the 16th not long after a verbal spat with her mother...and then she set in motion actions covering the murder with the babysitter story.

She visited the Sawgrass as "Zaneida," to set up the babysitter story. A week later, though, she still had Caylee's body in the trunk. She went home on the 22nd or 23rd to bury the baby in the back yard. She backed into the garage, then went next door to borrow the shovel. She unloaded Caylee from the trunk, and carried her and the shovel to the back yard. She set Caylee on the ground. Then she started digging. She realized that the ground was too hard for her to dig deep enough to conceal the body, so she put the body back in the trunk, and then she used the shovel to break into the shed. She took the gas to either burn the body or to burn evidence (clothing, stuff in the trunk that the body had leaked decomp fluids onto, possibly her clothes). She left the home and disposed of the body. More than likely, she buried it somewhere.

After Cindy retrieved Casey and brought her home on July 15th, after LE left, at some point she told George and Cindy what she did. They engaged in her story about Zanny and hid evidence in the car before LE took it on the evening of the 16th. And they've been lying and obsfucating ever since...to protect Casey. It is very possible that Lee knows, too. If you read the exchanges on myspace between Casey and Lee, it's evident that theirs is an oddly close relationship. Big brother would protect little sister, even though he's disgusted at what she did.

A couple of nights ago, Cindy told Rozzie Franco, "I'm not going to lose another one." They know Caylee is dead, and they don't want to lose Casey--either to prison or to Ol' Sparky (or the needle, if that's what Florida's using these days).

That's my theory, anyway.
 
Just got finish briefly watching OTR show 8/6/08 with Mark Furhman

6/15/2008 - Cindy and Casey take a swim in the pool, come out, take the ladder away.
My question: Where was Caylee when Cindy and Casey went in the pool? Was George home and watching Caylee, was Caylee in the house sleeping?

6/16/2008 - Casey and Caylee in the house. Cindy already at work.
My question: What time does Cindy start work?

6/16/08 - George sees Casey and Caylee at 12:50 PM with backpacks on their way out the door.
My question: Did George see Caylee have lunch, breakfast, use potty, bath, playing etc.? A child may get up at 7:00 AM to almost 1:00 PM that 6 hours of unaccountable time in that household. Is there a bathroom in Casey's room?

6/16/08 - George leaves for work at 2:30 PM

6/16/08 - starting at 3:00 PM and ending at 4:00 PM there are numerous phone calls from Casey to her father, mother and friends. Quick phone calls although cellphone records would show a minute because you are charged a minute even if the call is 2 seconds.

My question: How far is it from the Anthony household to George's employment? Did George really have a job at that time? (Cindy said at the bond hearing George just started a new job on July 15th.) Why didn't George have his cellphone on? Could it be because of "pings" re" his whereabouts?

Thinking out loud: All these phone calls are within 2 hours after Casey left her parents house with Caylee. I find it very odd, that Cindy and George didn't answer Casey's calls within that hour. I know they both maybe at work, but most folks working leave their cell phones on "perhaps" on vibrator mode" so they know when they get a phone call. George is suppose to be en-route to his house and Casey starts calling Cindy/George etc. at 3:00 PM.

6/16/08 - starting at 6:00 PM to 7:30 PM Casey starts calling Cindy, George and others and no connection. Just minutes phone calls which could be just a few second phone calls.

6/16/08 - No more phone calls were made after 7:30 PM.

6/17/08 - Anthony's "allegedly" notice that the ladder was back in the pool and the gate to the pool was open.
My question: Exactly what time did the Anthony's find the pool gate open?

6/17/08 - "Allegedly" it is now suspect that Casey pretended to be "Zanny" and filled out a guest card at the Sawgrass Apartments on June 17, 2008 rather than what was reported as April 17, 2008.
My question: Is there a time on that guest card?

6/17/08 - I believe Mark reported on numerous phone calls back to back on the 17th of June also.
Note to self ... watch tape again! :)
My thoughts: It seems odd that on the 16th and 17th no phone calls were answered.
My question: Were any phone calls ever returned to Casey?

6/18/08 - Mark Furhman feels the shovel was borrowed from the neighbor as well as the same day the neighbor sees Casey's car backed into the driveway.
My thoughts: Neighbor needs to try an pin point a time Casey borrowed the shovel. Was it after 2:30 PM when George apparently goes to work?

Based on the above time-frame, I feel June 16th is the last day Caylee took a breath of air sometime after 2:00 - 2:30 PM

I feel that Casey borrowed the shovel after Geroge left for work around 2:30 PM on June 17, 2008. Casey back into the driveway and went across the street to get the shovel, Casey brought Caylee out of the trunk and Casey went through the garage to the backyard.

I feel Casey put Caylee on the ground and then put the ladder in the pool. When she realized the pool idea wasn't a good one, she went to another area, possibly near the playhouse and put Caylee down and was going to attempt to dig a hole under the playhouse knowing fully a concrete slab was going to be placed there on July 4th.
(Don't know if Caylee is in the backyard or not, just feel it all went down on June 16th)

I also feel that the shed was broken into on June 17th. George tells Greta he believes the last time he was in the shed was Sunday which would be June 22nd, but I think he was last in the shed on June 15th, Father's Day, while Cindy and Caylee were at the nursing home.

I still hear Casey's words "She is close to home".

I so want LE to break through that concrete and take a better look.
 
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