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Thank you, Chiquita. I've been wondering where it was said that George had breakfast with Caylee that morning. He never mentioned it himself.Statement to LE(Cindy Anthony)
August 1st 2008
LE: On this week, on this conference week, do you ever get on the phone, do you remember...
CA: I talk to her everyday
LE: Every day you talk to the baby?
CA: No, I stopped talking to Caylee, the last time I talked to Caylee was the 15th when we put her to bed. Now, George had a conversation with her in the morning, she was there in the morning, had breakfast and the normal stuff.
I think that KC stomped out with Caylee and took her to the bonding vacation. There was a fight, maybe the 9th, maybe the 15th. And I think that one thing that CA said to KC was something like "I will never forgive you if something happens to that baby."
This is why, the very first time that KC appeared in court, CA hollered to her, "I forgive you!"
Respectfully snipped to my point.
Thank you, Chiquita. I've been wondering where it was said that George had breakfast with Caylee that morning. He never mentioned it himself.
CA made this statement to LE but when asked this question during her deposition she stated that she didn't know who fed Caylee breakfast because she was at work. I don't know why she changed her story. Surely, by the time she had that interview with LE, CA would have discussed this with GA. If she mistakenly thought GA had breakfast with Caylee on the 16th, he would have made this clear to her prior to this August LE interview. Sometime between the LE interview and the deposition, it became important for CA to change the story.
There are so many contradictions and questions surrounding that morning. That's one reason I believe something happened to Caylee the night before or early am on the 16th. I think CA and GA realized this in hindsight and the fabrications began with that morning.
Hi sweet Verte: :blowkiss:
This is the entire discussion maybe that will help, if not please ask away - be my pleasure to post with you always:
Originally Posted by Becky319
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Casey got her babysitter out..Xanax or Chloroform..got Caylee to sleep, put her in the trunk with her Winnie the Poo Blankie, went to Blockbuster and stayed the night with TonE.
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Originally Posted by songline
Those were my first thoughts early on, that the baby sitter was the Trunk of her car, and the baby got a xanax to go to sleep: I posted this early on too:
I woke up one night from a night mare hearing Caylee screaming "NO MOMMY NO" I think she hated the trunk and maybe one of those times poor CAYLEE just did not wake up. I still think that way.
I never thought that Casey planed a murder. But I do think that ex LE daddy helped to clean up her mess. (no body yet has convinced me other wise) MY eyes are on GA; and as for CA she is just obnoxious to the marrow. But she is not the planner.
Then I got side tracked by "Follow the Money" and SODDI and my mind is still there too.
Originally Posted by whiteangora
I can follow along with the Caylee left in a trunk theory, possibly medicated but, she would have had to die in her sleep because why wouldn't she cry or scream? Apartment parking lots are busy places. People work, go to school at different shifts, surely someone would hear a child crying in a trunk?
Originaly Posted Songline
You are correct 100% whiteangora; asleep on a drug.
If you are referring to me waking in the night and hearing CAYLEE screaming "NO Mommy NO" That would have happened when she was supposed to go in the trunk...(I did not see anything when I jumped out of bed just heard the scream vividly) this happened very very early on. Almost as if she was sending me a message. It is posted somewhere.
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Verité I hope this clarifies what you are asking; if not ask me a direct question and I will reply
In My head I see a selfish Casey going to party and leaving the baby in a trunk drudged, I am slightly clairvoyant, (I was as a child and I had suppressed that - so I am not really).
I do not know why I jumped out of the bed hearing the baby scream "NO Mommy No".
But I have had dreams every so often (not often) then they were verified as factual.
However this will never be verified, so It was just one of those night mares.
OT:
For example: I told some friends about a dream I had - "Princess Dianna is going to be dead" - one month prior to her accident. (so we all dismissed that dream) A month later I was in Sag Harbor - A beach by the Hampton's in NY. As I came down the steps one morning my girlfriend said OH my God Guess What?
No it does not happen often, but it occasionally happens, and some dreams have no base in reality.
I never know when I am on to something or not.
I suppressed all that 6th sense when I was a child because I never liked what I saw and I feared it.
Thank you fro sharing that plane accident with me, I have heard of such things before; There we go = you do understand what I meant.Verité;3843956 said:Hi songline
Here's how I feel about 'what dya think happened to Caylee :treadmill: like being on a treadmill, doncha know? I just keep trackin' with nothing much to show for it.
Or, like that Greek guy Sisyphus, I think it was, who had to push a large boulder up a hill, and then it would roll back down, and he'd have to start
over again 'til he got to the top & it rolled back down, & so on for the rest of his lifetime (as punishment for some misdeed or sin, I'm sure, like greed or arrogance
or s.t. along those lines, though I can't remember just what).
Well, after reviewing your great post above, I realized that the more I've tried to use logic and the accumulation of so-called "science," the more
befuddled I am about this case.
Early on I held a theory that perhaps there had been a reenactment of the CA>>KC choking incident that precipitated the death of KC, but now I just don't know.
When we were writing up our pet theories for Mark Klass, I submitted mine only to read that of One Lost Girl which said that she had "no idea" what
had happened, and a lightbulb went off over my head that hers seemed the most honest of all our so-called theories. So, while I still keep in mind the
likelihood of an overdose of some medication (especially with the California atty TM on the case), I'm gonna remain empty-headed 'til trial and listen to
both sides weave their respective theories.
I do definitely believe in sixth or seventh or eighth sense type ways of receiving/perceiving info, and I've had some of those in my life which follow no rules of
formal logic or science, so I know what your're talking about with your dream.
Before the days of cell phones, a loved one was killed in a plane crash & the phone would ring one short, shrill ring about every 30 minutes throughout that night,
but no one spoke when I'd answer--and no one called to notify of the tragedy until early morning. Who can explain??
You're right on target with GA. Amazing, this selective memory he has. He can specifically state the clothes and bags BUT can't remember who fed Caylee or what she ate June 16, 08. So typical of all of them.
Verité;3844267 said:What?!!! Songline, you're not gonna leave us hanging like this. . . . How will I sleep? Tell us more, puhleez!
Sweet Miss James - :blowkiss:And they both used the word "normal" to describe the 16th. Just another normal day..........no it was not
Hi Chiquita71,
I've never believed CA would sit back quietly and let KC keep Caylee away from home for a month. I've always believed there was ,at the very least,an argument between the two before KC left .I wonder if CA threatened to get custody of Caylee. The Jacksonville story may have served two purposes.It explained why they weren't home,but also introduced a relationship for KC that would include a husband and potential new dad for Caylee.Maybe this pacified CA enough ,believing it would create a stable family for Caylee and calm KC down. It does appear they were onto KC about a lot of things and disapproved of her actions. Too bad they aren't holding her feet to fire now.
Thanks for bringing it up.
KC's lies are very detailed.She had no problem saying she left Caylee with ZFG at Sawgrass , a lie easily debunked.She actually walked into Universal ,all the while giving a detailed account of having put her phone on the corner of her desk in her office.Last night I was thinking about the 9-1 timeframe KC gave as to when she dropped Caylee off at Sawgrass. I've always been curious about this and wonder why she allowed a 4-hour margin of error for herself.
The only possibility I've come up with is that she may have been afraid to give a specific time because someone may come forward later and state that KC was seen earlier than the time she gave without Caylee. So that if she said she dropped Caylee off at 11am or 12pm someone would later say that she didn't have Caylee at 9 or 10 am.
Am I making sense? I feel that KC thought that there was the possibility that someone could testify that she wasn't seen with Caylee at all between 9-1 on the 16th. In case this happened, she included the entire timeframe to allow for that.
If this is why she said "between 9am-1pm" then where was she that someone may have seen her without Caylee? Was it GA that she was afraid would contradict her story or someone else? If she was at home all morning then GA is the only one she would be worried about. Or, did she go somewhere else during these hours where someone may have seen her without Caylee?
Obviously, this only applies if one thinks that Caylee died prior to 9am on the 16th. It's just more of the same stuff that is questionable about that morning that leads me to think Caylee died prior to the afternoon of the 16th. If Caylee was still alive when KC returned home after GA left for work wouldn't she be afraid someone (neighbor, passerby) would later say that Caylee was with KC (not the nanny) after 1pm that afternoon? Stating that she dropped her off by 1pm and then showing up later at the house with Caylee would be a huge red flag to LE. Apparently, KC wasn't concerned about this. Did she know that no one could have possibly seen Caylee after 1pm? Is this because she pulled into the garage when she came back or because Caylee really wasn't with her?
Maybe I'm making too much of this statement. LE didn't seem concerned about pinning her down to a more specific time. I can't help but wonder about it. Most people would know when they dropped their child off and never saw her again. To me, this statement by KC was very self serving and I'll always wonder what purpose it served.