summer_breeze
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Please post those theories that are outside of the known facts here.
I haven't seen anything "official" as far as a timeline for these early hours/ days, so everything I've got in mind is complete speculation/ guess/ opinion. It could have gone something like:
- Parents expect a call and don't get one
- Parents are concerned, since she is so consistent with the calls (maybe even at a set time or they had planned a time, who knows), so they call her and can't get her*
- Parents can't get her so they call the hotel
- Hotel can't get her via room phone, maybe send someone to do a visual check*, also realize she hasn't checked out when supposed to and nobody has seen her leave.
- No sign of her so hotel and/or parents call LE
My hunch is that at one of the two points I've starred in this HYPOTHETICAL timeline, there were maybe additional indicators of a problem/ accident/ crime, which escalated things. Again, MOO
Trimmed for space.That said, I have no idea how it works with designating someone a missing person so maybe it's normal to do so for an adult within 24 hours of the last time they were seen... :waitasec:
I think it's likely that LE and/or her parents have info they're not sharing (duh), specifically from early in the disappearance that marked it as unusual/ abnormal/ potentially crime-related. Quoting myself from the general discussion thread:
Possibly, her parents called her phone and got someone else answering it (this comes to mind because of the weird answer about her phone a detective gave in an early interview, saying they didn't want to talk about it) or got some sort of weird text message or something from her phone.
Possibly, there was also visual evidence of something off/ wrong in her room? Or maybe somebody working at the hotel DID mention something potentially sketchy to LE, but LE hasn't said anything about it because they're trying to protect that person?
Something that would have triggered a missing-persons deal really fast, is basically where I'm going with this.
That said, I have no idea how it works with designating someone a missing person so maybe it's normal to do so for an adult within 24 hours of the last time they were seen... :waitasec:
I've gone through a number of theories, but here is one. Elisa Lam was followed by someone, then entered the elevator, then the elevator failed her. That person came down from the roof or 15th floor and approached from the left. She exits the elevator and he gets her to raise her hands up and searches her.
Meanwhile someone else comes by to use the bathroom on the right. The guy on the left is distracted by this and this enables Elisa to go back in the elevator. Guy on left is aware of camera so does not follow. When elevator doesn't close, she comes out again and is grabbed by guy on left. Guy on right comes out of bathroom, and she gestures to him waving her arms for help. Because he's a long-term resident who has seen lots of stuff and had bad experiences with the police, he does not get involved and walks away. Elisa then gives up and is taken away by the guy on the left.
Very speculative, I know. But possible?
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In this video the media shows her in a black hoodie taking a photo of herself in the mirror of the bathroom at the cecil hotel apparently, and their correlating the pattern of something she's wearing underneath her hoodie to another photo of her wearing something of the same pattern, confirming it is her. How did they get access to that photo of her? Anyone have any more information about the picture? Has this photo of her in a hoodie been discussed yet on here?
(edit: Not sure where this post would belong on here since the sleuthing threads are locked.)
http://www.asiaone.com/print/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20110518-279311.htmlDiscovery of maid's body in water tank puts spotlight on its access.
No foolproof way to restrict HDB roof access
ONLY "authorised personnel" are given the key to the roof-access door of Block 686B, Woodlands Drive 73, but this can mean a number of people, ranging from lift-rescue personnel to workers of conservancy sub-contractors.
On Monday morning, residents of Block 686B noticed that their tap water was unnaturally frothy and discoloured.
Soon after, the body of 30-year-old Indonesian maid Ruliyawati was discovered in one of eight water tanks atop the 15-storey block. She worked for a family on the sixth floor.
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My outlandish theory - someone is keeping this story quiet, someone with connections tied to her murder or friends with the person or persons who killed her.
Why do I say that? It seems odd that the no media person is digging deeper on this story. Only Chinese media seems interested in finding out more about this case. Even odder, we aren't getting much of a picture of Elisa Lam. It's like she popped up as a 21 year old, we know she has a family, was going to UBC, and decided she wanted to go on a trip. Not much is said about her upbringing, family life, her friends, etc... Unless I missed something. Most of the stories I've seen are about her in the last few months.
Any thoughts on why the media isn't digger deeper on this? Why there aren't any 'leaks' from the autopsy, for example? Or whether police are looking at persons of interest or leaning more towards death by misadventure?
That's a really creative perspective on it. Right out of a Tales from the Darkside episode or something.Ok, this is my theory on what i have read so far
There were many longer term residents of the hotel Cecil, so of which are registered sex offenders (not sure if I'm allowed to link but will pm a moderator to ask) and others with drug issues etc. The new owners of the hotel wanted to upgrade the hotel and it's image, displacing these residents. They would have found it difficult to find new housing so one of them (or more) killed this girl to tarnish the reputation of the hotel. The image of the hotel would have been effected, nobody would want to stay there after this recent tragedy and the residents would not have to move - MOO
My outlandish theory - someone is keeping this story quiet, someone with connections tied to her murder or friends with the person or persons who killed her.
Why do I say that? It seems odd that the no media person is digging deeper on this story. Only Chinese media seems interested in finding out more about this case. Even odder, we aren't getting much of a picture of Elisa Lam. It's like she popped up as a 21 year old, we know she has a family, was going to UBC, and decided she wanted to go on a trip. Not much is said about her upbringing, family life, her friends, etc... Unless I missed something. Most of the stories I've seen are about her in the last few months.
Any thoughts on why the media isn't digger deeper on this? Why there aren't any 'leaks' from the autopsy, for example? Or whether police are looking at persons of interest or leaning more towards death by misadventure?
You and 90% of YoutubeGhosts.
There you go. That's my theory.
Ghosts did it.
One other thing...
In a way, it seems like ever since EL was discovered, she has been sort of objectified as the corpse behind the shocking 'corpse water' hotel, a situation that is maybe too off-putting even for our culture. And it doesn't help that she's a Chinese-Canadian girl, with the US media being notoriously biased toward white, female victims from the US. I also believe that the elevator video turned the case from 'cute Canadian girl missing in LA' into 'scary, creepy girl'... that might have also dehumanized EL in many people's eyes. Even if that's true, it doesn't explain the lack of information/coverage, but it's just an observation.
Yeah, it's very unusual how hush-hush this case is.
The only reason I can think of for why there isn't much info about her upbringing, personal life, family, etc is because her family is so private and there might be some cultural barriers. And based on EL's blog and some online posts by an old friend of her's, it seems to me like she may not have had many close friends in the last couple of years. Maybe the ones she had are respecting the family? Just my thoughts, anyway.
I imagine the media is being stonewalled by the authorities about investigation details. It's the authorities that are so confusing. Does anyone remember a well-publicized potential murder investigation when the police were this quiet? It seems like more than just an investigative strategy, but again that's just a feeling.
One other thing...
In a way, it seems like ever since EL was discovered, she has been sort of objectified as the corpse behind the shocking 'corpse water' hotel, a situation that is maybe too off-putting even for our culture. And it doesn't help that she's a Chinese-Canadian girl, with the US media being notoriously biased toward white, female victims from the US. I also believe that the elevator video turned the case from 'cute Canadian girl missing in LA' into 'scary, creepy girl'... that might have also dehumanized EL in many people's eyes. Even if that's true, it doesn't explain the lack of information/coverage, but it's just an observation.
That's a really creative perspective on it. Right out of a Tales from the Darkside episode or something.
Yeah, it's very unusual how hush-hush this case is.
I imagine the media is being stonewalled by the authorities about investigation details. It's the authorities that are so confusing. Does anyone remember a well-publicized potential murder investigation when the police were this quiet? It seems like more than just an investigative strategy, but again that's just a feeling.
One other thing...
In a way, it seems like ever since EL was discovered, she has been sort of objectified as the corpse behind the shocking 'corpse water' hotel, a situation that is maybe too off-putting even for our culture.