Theory #2: Family Abduction by George Waters with George Brody and/or Associates

[mfmangel1]

I found a website today that looks pretty interesting. There are thousands of pictures posted there and many are unknown. You can post a picture and if anyone can identify it then they can contact you. What about posting GB's picture there? Here is the link: http://www.familyoldphotos.com/

What an interesting site and what a great idea!

 

[Marie]

What an interesting site and what a great idea!

There are tons of sites like that - mostly genealogy related. Here's another one: http://www.deadfred.com/

 

[tuitsweet]

I found a ISADORE BRODY at West Philadelphia High School, 1921

looks like it 'could be' George...any opinions?

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I know I am not very good at this, but I am trying

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tuitsweet

 

[Shadow205]

tuitsweet,
I saw that yearbook picture yesterday while going thru yearbooks at deadfred.com. I'll post the pic so everyone can see it. I also found this which is why I didn't consider him as our George Brody.
Isadore BRODY Birth Date:5 May 1895 Death Date:May 1979 Social Security Number: State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Pennsylvania

 

[Dr. Doogie]

I know if I was a guy named Isadore, I'd use an alias too!

 

[itsreenw]

I know this is not the George Brody we are researching but I thought the NY/doctor connections were interesting and the yearbook photo mentioned a 'namesake'. Could be a line of Isadore Brodys.

Brody Isadore Dr

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Address:
Brody Isadore Dr
118 E 19th St
New York, NY 10003-2127

Phone:
(212) 979-6363

 

[SherlockJr]

Bobby Wolgast the flyweight/bantam who won "newspaper decicions" over Frankie Genaro, Pancho Villa and Joe Lynch in Philadelphia in 1923 was born Anthony Giordano in Philadelphia around 1900. His Picture was on the cover of RING magazine, April 1924 edition.
Chuck Hasson
phillyboxinghistory.com

Another post:

this article is of interest

on 27 jan 1933 it was reported as follows


Punch Drunk Fighter is reported as improving

Pittburg Jan 27 (AP)

Bobby Wolgast, 27 year old Philadelphia boxer
Recovering from an operation to correct
“Punch drunkness” is reported as resting
easily and in good condition today at
St.Francis hospital.
Friends of the boxer from Philadelphia
Called him tonight to find how he was feeling
But he was unable to get to the telephone.

Wolgast is expected to be in the hospital
For a week or more yet
and another post:

Rob, that was an intersting story about Bobby Wolgast being punch-drunk. I think Bobby died around 1975. He was a fixture around the VBA club (#1 chapter) in Philly. Bobby took a lot of ribbing from the members about being punchy, some good natured and some not. He would periodically be banned from the club for boor assing etc. by Tony Morgano (long time president) after some members made complaints. But Willie O'Neill, who trained Jeff Chandler, would always talk to Tony and get Bobby reinstated "if he behaved himself. Willie claimed that although Bobby was "a little punchy" he wasn't as bad as he sometimes let on and some of his act was done as an attention getter.
Chuck

here is the link to the forum http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/cbzforum/showthread.php?p=29878&posted=1#post29878

Shadow, how about going back into the ring (www.cyberboxingzone.com) and posting a pic of GB and ask if anyone there recognizes him.

 

[GraceBlue]

Wow, Isadore looks a lot like GB! Especially the shape of the face and jawbones.

 

[GraceBlue]

The Kansas City Star March 27, 1943. Isadore Brody.

 

[Shadow205]

Shadow, how about going back into the ring (www.cyberboxingzone.com) and posting a pic of GB and ask if anyone there recognizes him.

I posted the pictures of GB at cyberzone. I will post any replies. I had sent the pictures to a couple of members there who had posted replies to my original post and thought that I had already posted the pictures. Anyway, they are there now.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Thanks, Shadow205.

 

[SherlockJr]

Doogie, You have mentioned that there were lots of "goofy" letters in the BFH. Could any of these letters have some names in them that have not been brought up yet? I hate to feel like SMPD and run into dead ends here.

 

[HeartofTexas]

I think this girl (Minnie Brody) also resembles George Brody. She was from Easton, PA. Wonder if she could be a relative (sister?) What do all of you think?

http://www.deadfred.com/photos/17257.jpg

 

[Marie]

I think this girl (Minnie Brody) also resembles George Brody. She was from Easton, PA. Wonder if she could be a relative (sister?) What do all of you think?

http://www.deadfred.com/photos/17257.jpg

Name: Minnie Brody
Age in 1910: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Birthplace: Russia
Home in 1910: Montpelier Ward 3, Washington, Vermont
Year of Immigration: 1909
Household Members:
William Brody 48
Frume Brody 46
Florence Brody 19
Sophia Brody 13
Minnie Brody 11
Samuel Brody 9

Name: Minnie Boody
[Minnie Brody]
Age: 22 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Birthplace: Russia
Race: White
Home in 1920: Easton Ward 4, Northampton, Pennsylvania
Sex: Female
Marital status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Year of immigration: 1909
Household Members:
William, b. abt 1864, head
Aaron b. abt 1881, son
Florence, b. abt 1891, dau.
Minnie, b. abt. 1898, dau.
Samuel b. abt 1901, son
Abraham b. abt 1913 in Vermont, son
Donald b. abt 1915 in Vermont, son



__________________________
Name: Isadore Brody
Age in 1910: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1910: Philadelphia Ward 1, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Household Members: Name Age
Harry L Goldberg 30
Minnie J Goldberg 26
Elenor M Goldberg 6/12
Louis Brody 39
Arthur M Brody 14
Milton B Brody 12
Solomon Brody 9
Isadore Brody 7
Mary Mokoch 26

Name: Isadore Brode
[Isadore Brody]
Age: 17 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Race: White
Home in 1920: Philadelphia Ward 24, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Sex: Male
Marital status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Mother's Birth Place: Russia
Father's Birth Place: Russia
Father: Louis; Spouse: Mrs. Lena
Siblings: Arthur age 25; Milton age 21; Saul age 19
+ a Step-brother, age 18

Name: Isadore M Brody
Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Birthplace: New York
Relation to head-of-house: Head
Spouse's Name: Mildred M, age 22
No children

 

[SherlockJr]

Has anyone ever thought about checking out death record of Kukoda? GB's real name may be listed as the contact person. Our public library has them on film and list a next of kin or a contact person. The funeral director or cemetary may still have the records also.

 

[Annasmom]

Has anyone ever thought about checking out death record of Kukoda? GB's real name may be listed as the contact person. Our public library has them on film and list a next of kin or a contact person. The funeral director or cemetary may still have the records also.

We have her death certificate, but (like those of GW and GB) it doesn't really tell us anything. We're waiting for information from the Passport Office; apart from this, we've come to a big wall of resistance.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Before anybody loses hope because of the lull in new information, I should state I am exploring an unlikely, yet plausible lead. It probably is a red herring, but could be productive. I do not want to post anything about it yet because it A) probably is nothing, and B) would be irresponsible to those parties involved to post what little information I currently have. As soon as I have something concrete, I will post it.

 

[mfmangel1]

Dear Annasmom & Dr. Doogie-

Have you heard or received any additional info regarding additional police investigations that were not a part of the "official" report? I feel any additional info there would be useful.

I see Joe Ford is still on board. I can not fathom the dedication and love this man must have had and continues to have for Anna. She was obviously the daughter he never physically gave birth to, but was truly her father in the every sense of the word. My heart aches for him as well as for the rest of Anna's family of loved one's.

 

[mfmangel1]

I've been in the hospital for a week and only able to lurk for a couple of days, so I am trying to brush up on what I may have missed!

 

[SherlockJr]

...and love this man must have had and continues to have for Anna. She was obviously the daughter he never physically gave birth to, but was truly her father in the every sense of the word. My heart aches for him as well as for the rest of Anna's family of loved one's.

Well said, and I second that thought.
Also, welcome back home mfm. Hope it was not too serious.