This thread is for the posters that believe Caylee is still alive # 2

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Don't act like Nejame! :) Please I just wanted to know what you guys thought. She had to involved some how which would help your investigation if you knew how
i often wonder if she does know who the father is but claims she doesnt . and gave her to him .. if he is anything like casey then he wouldnt speak either and he wouldnt want caylee taken away now that he has her .. but the truth is i just dont know if she is alive or not .. im confuzzled :(
 
i often wonder if she does know who the father is but claims she doesnt . and gave her to him .. if he is anything like casey then he wouldnt speak either and he wouldnt want caylee taken away now that he has her .. but the truth is i just dont know if she is alive or not .. im confuzzled :(

That would be the best scenario, eh?
 
That would be the best scenario, eh?
oh god that would just be a miracle .. i would be so happy if she is alive .. but i cant lean either way cuz im truely confused . i just flat out dont know what to think :(
 
One theory that I have not seen explored is: what if Caylee WAS left with someone for a few days, nights whatever.. and what if it was Caylee who witnessed a crime of some kind and started to talk about it. That would explain why they would not return her at the beginning and why they certainly would not return her now. The people who Casey left her with could have handed her off to others with whom they were associated to get her further away from home. Or, they could have sold her to someone to get rid of her, any number of possibilities.
 
Ok, if you guys think Caylee is alive what do you think about Casey? Guilty of anything? If so what?

*Disclaimer*
I am speaking for myself and anyone else that may feel as I do.


That's the thing, monoxide.
We don't know for a 100% fact what all Casey is guilty of yet.
We've obviously heard all the stories and read the same documents that everyone else did.
We don't know why she did anything she did, we can only surmise and most of the times that's hit or miss, people just thinking and discussing "what ifs".

We do know what it looks like, that's why we're in the minority.
But...there are still enough unanswered questions and doubt, that the potential for Caylee still being alive is enough to give some of us hope. That hope leads one to research and sleuth to find anything relevant.

So here is a question for you and everyone else that comes here to knock this thread and theories:

Why do you have a problem with any of us sleuthing towards the Caylee is alive theory?
Does it really bother you guys that much that we have that hope and want to bounce ideas and information off of each other?
I'm really trying to understand this, so please help me by explaining the condescending attitudes from you and others that don't believe Caylee is alive?
 
*Disclaimer*
I am speaking for myself and anyone else that may feel as I do.


That's the thing, monoxide.
We don't know for a 100% fact what all Casey is guilty of yet.
We've obviously heard all the stories and read the same documents that everyone else did.
We don't know why she did anything she did, we can only surmise and most of the times that's hit or miss, people just thinking and discussing "what ifs".

We do know what it looks like, that's why we're in the minority.
But...there are still enough unanswered questions and doubt, that the potential for Caylee still being alive is enough to give some of us hope. That hope leads one to research and sleuth to find anything relevant.

So here is a question for you and everyone else that comes here to knock this thread and theories:

Why do you have a problem with any of us sleuthing towards the Caylee is alive theory?
Does it really bother you guys that much that we have that hope and want to bounce ideas and information off of each other?
I'm really trying to understand this, so please help me by explaining the condescending attitudes from you and others that don't believe Caylee is alive?

If you would've read my other post you would've known I was just wondering what you guys that about that question. Like I said I didn't come on this thread to argue about alive or dead. I was just curious what guys thought Casey's part was in all of this. I don't care what you think just like you don't care what I think. I was just asking a question. Please got back check my other post on this thread before jumping to conclusion.
 
I'm sorry but it is making absolutely no sense that people are posting tips on this thread that should be going to LE. We here at WS are in no position to help you, this is a LE deal. So, if you really want to help, contact your LE or the fbi and have them follow up. Posting "tips" in an internet chat room is not helping anything, unless you are trying to manipulate the public's view on this case. I don't buy for one second that LE aren't doing their job and that the people here with tips can't trust they are being followed up on. Contact your local LE, contact the fbi in TX, go to the media for cryin out loud. Are you suggesting all forms of LE are corrupt and simply do not want to help find a missing child? I also don't believe that cindy is using a poster in this thread as her "right hand" in trying to get the word out on tips she is recieving. She won't reveal this "tip" info through media or her"spokesperson" but she will tell some "random" concerned caller what's going on with the case? I wonder if the ocso is aware Cindy is handing off tips to internet blogs? If she is in fact reporting it to LE wouldn't it be considered "part of an ongoing investigation" and maybe just maybe LE doesn't want the public to know what people and/or places they are looking into so what a few posters were concerned with happening (the abductors moving her) did not happen?

One of the searchers contacted the crime line to tell them about an item that was found that she thought was important now, though at the time wasn't marked or considered relevant but was close to an area where items were removed. She was shocked that crime line seemed so unconcerned. BTW, the searcher thinks Caylee is dead. There was also a poster that said crimeline didn't answer and when she finally left a message nobody called her back. LE is looking for a dead child, not covering all the bases IMO.
In missing child cases, it's important to provide info to the public so that people can keep an eye out. They've deemed the tips as uncredible so what's it hurt if someone looks into them more closely ?
 
If you would've read my other post you would've known I was just wondering what you guys that about that question. Like I said I didn't come on this thread to argue about alive or dead. I was just curious what guys thought Casey's part was in all of this. I don't care what you think just like you don't care what I think. I was just asking a question. Please got back check my other post on this thread before jumping to conclusion.


You're right, I was judging you and that was unfair.
Before I read your reply and after I'd posted mine, I did go back and read your posts and I apologize for doing the same thing I accused others of doing, assuming.
 
I clicked on the DW link and there are 6 comments. Can you direct me what you are talking about?

Just in Case, I'm having trouble following this thread...wonder why! :crazy: Which link are you referring to here:
Clink on the link and scroll down to post 16 ... I've never heard this about Caylee's bio. father anywhere
Do you remember? I don't blame you if you don't!
 
I don't believe they are related. Here is some more information if you have not seen it already.

http://www.local6.com/news/16594383/detail.html

That's actually an older link. Those two sketches on that link were actually cleared in the investigation. Now, the east side rapist that they are referring to was also cleared. There is a fourth person of interest. I posted his sketch yesterday by the way. He is a latino man, and Casey has many latino friends. So it's just about as much possible as it is impossible that she knows something about the murder.
 
I'm not trying to shot anyone down, but what do you have that puts Casey in Blanchard Park on June 9th? I mean we do know where Caylee was on Father's Day which was June 15th.

I don't see where June 9th figures in first of all. I also don't see where Caylee needs to be tied to the park at all really because all we need is Casey in the park, or Casey having knowledge of the person responsible. But as an answer to your question - what do you have that puts her elsewhere for any day besides Father's day? Seems that's the only day that can be set in stone as her being somewhere for sure.

Just like those on other threads are speculating that Caylee is dead and/or was gator food long ago, we are speculating on why Caylee could have been taken by someone or was sent away by Casey.
 
actually what other posters are saying is that the neighbors must have had enough of the circus and decided to move out. Everyone has a right to their opinion, sounds to me you are trying to create a "mob mentality" toward people who see things diferently. I wonder what would happen if people came up with childish names for the place you discuss your own views. :waitasec:

Interesting choice of words. Perhaps that's how we see things also when you and others continue to post here and try to debate with those of us who "have our own opinions" and "see things differently" than those who think Caylee is dead. Think about it.
 
Just in Case, I'm having trouble following this thread...wonder why! :crazy: Which link are you referring to here:

Do you remember? I don't blame you if you don't!

LOL .. I posted two links ... one was to the DW speaks out, then I replied to katie. In that reply I posted another link to someone who said she had been following this case since it broke ... she said in her post on a forum ... that Caylees father is a married man with two children. It is post # 16.

http://www.psychicguild.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3845

[going back to my post I can see the link didn't show up... my appologies]
 
*Disclaimer*
I am speaking for myself and anyone else that may feel as I do.


That's the thing, monoxide.
We don't know for a 100% fact what all Casey is guilty of yet.
We've obviously heard all the stories and read the same documents that everyone else did.
We don't know why she did anything she did, we can only surmise and most of the times that's hit or miss, people just thinking and discussing "what ifs".

We do know what it looks like, that's why we're in the minority.
But...there are still enough unanswered questions and doubt, that the potential for Caylee still being alive is enough to give some of us hope. That hope leads one to research and sleuth to find anything relevant.

So here is a question for you and everyone else that comes here to knock this thread and theories:

Why do you have a problem with any of us sleuthing towards the Caylee is alive theory?
Does it really bother you guys that much that we have that hope and want to bounce ideas and information off of each other?
I'm really trying to understand this, so please help me by explaining the condescending attitudes from you and others that don't believe Caylee is alive?

I just got home and read this...haven't read much else yet.... but :clap::clap:
I was thinking today why do people feel it's OK to put down those who would like to hold onto hope?

What is to be gained by tearing down people for whatever reason want or need to hold onto this hope.

Are we doing something wrong ? Seriously have we hurt anyone by our feelings ?
What is the need people feel to "make " us see things their way?

As I said at another time.... if we are wrong who have we hurt ?

Today ..9/11... I am proud to say that I live in a country that allows me to be free thinking
 
Yup...gone! Bebe's gone, too! WW is down to 5 myspace comments, and he was online earlier (I posted that on myspace/facebook thread), but now is page says last log-0n 9/10/08.

These kids are way smarter than I am with myspace hacks. But I'm learning!

ZG is still there too. And she has changed her looks again. My, aren't we the Madonna of the players? She reinvents herself faster than the others are deleting things lol.

http://profile.myspace.com/166182731
 
I'm not caught up on this thread, so please forgive if someone else has posted this as a potential theory: what if Casey gave Caylee to her brother, and he and his girlfriend are the ones hiding her?

Mind you, I have *not* gone through the various videos, transcripts, and info about him and checked them in the light of this idea to see what might fit and what would not.

But. We do know that he and Casey are very close. What if he is on Casey's side with regard to whatever conflicts there may be/may have been between Casey and her parents? Casey is kicked out of their home and takes Caylee with her ... she has no place to stay except bumming off her boyfriend and friends, and although all of them no doubt love Caylee, they are a party crowd and none of them would especially want a baby around 24/7. Lee knows this, he reasonably offers to take Caylee until Casey gets settled, and agrees with her to keep Caylee's whereabouts a secret from their parents.

Also, if she admitted to him about her stealing, he may have told her "Look, you are gonna get caught, what if you go to jail?" and she may have said, "I still want you to keep her. No way is anyone else to even know where she is. As long as I know she's okay, I don't care what happens." As far as this goes, it's possible her parents flat out told her that if she didn't pay back the money stolen from her grandparents, they would make sure charges were filed -- so Casey may have left that house knowing that chances were good she might end up in jail on those charges. We don't know exactly what all she has been involved in, so possibly she has friends who have been in jail, been to prison, and maybe she can deal with doing some prison time, maybe that goes with her "tuff" persona. Maybe she won't actually get prison time from all these charges -- she may get some jail time and the rest suspended pending good behavior for the next 3 years. Even if she produces Caylee, she'll still have these charges to face, so producing Caylee doesn't do anything to help her with them.

If the above or something like it is true, then I would think Caylee would be produced if Casey was charged with Caylee's murder. But it's not yet clear that she is going to be charged. Casey may be willing to play it out as far as it will go and wait to see what happens. Because at this point, once she does produce Caylee, there is a huge risk that she will lose custody of Caylee either to her parents, or to the child services system. She wouldn't want either of those to happen. Then again, maybe she would not lose custody, because if Caylee is safely with her brother or friends of his (for the time being), Casey is not being negligent about her care.

Something like this may explain the "high 5" between Casey and Lee.

The thought has been that if Caylee is alive and Casey knows where she is, then why would Casey allow all the searching to go on, the money to be spent on that, all the worry and upset people are feeling, etc. How about this ... (in her thinking) "Mom, Dad ... I told you I know where she is and that she is okay. You chose not to believe me. Fine. YOU set all this stuff in motion, not me. It's all on your head, if all these people want to believe she's dead and go looking for her, that's their business, I didn't ask them to do it."

Mind you, I'm personally mostly persuaded that Caylee is dead. But like so many, I really want to believe she is alive. If she is, then the above or something very close to it might be what is going on. It's less of a shot in the dark than believing Casey's story about the nanny.
 
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