Three children and two teenagers have been arrested over the murder of an 80-year-old man. Leicestershire, UK.

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Blaming Internet/games/Social Media, etc
seems too simple IMO.
A convenient scapegoat.

Although my guess is simple as well:

Poor parenting.
Ineffective parental methods.
Negative role models.
Neglect.
Broken homes.
Damaged parents= damaged kids.

It all starts at home.

JMO
RSBM
I don't know. I honestly don't know. When I was growing up (70's, 80's) poor parenting, neglect, broken homes etc etc all existed too. Though I also think that blaming Internet etc is too simple. Back then, I'm sure there were people who blamed violent TV shows. MOO
 
Definitely in the US…I was surprised to read of this happening in the UK, as I thought it was a uniquely American thing for younger and younger people to be committing crimes so violent.
No, I don't think uniquely American.
Among other recent incidents worldwide, a 14yo in Saskatoon, Canada, set a 15yo on fire, at school. It's here on websleuths.
I mean, what the actual...??
 
RSBM
I don't know. I honestly don't know. When I was growing up (70's, 80's) poor parenting, neglect, broken homes etc etc all existed too. Though I also think that blaming Internet etc is too simple. Back then, I'm sure there were people who blamed violent TV shows. MOO
And music! Here in the USA at least, there was a lot of blame on music back in the day.

jmo
 
RSBM
I don't know. I honestly don't know. When I was growing up (70's, 80's) poor parenting, neglect, broken homes etc etc all existed too. Though I also think that blaming Internet etc is too simple. Back then, I'm sure there were people who blamed violent TV shows. MOO

I genuinely believe lack of discipline, lack of family values and lack of community values are the main factors behind it all.
Societal values have shifted and changed and they are not for the better.
Moo
 
And music! Here in the USA at least, there was a lot of blame on music back in the day.

jmo
That Elvis was a corrupting influence lol.
Or the rap and heavy metal in the 80s/90s. I remember getting Guns n Roses, Appetite for Destruction, and it had a warning sticker on it. Ridiculous!! Still one of my favourite albums, and i still haven't committed any crimes.
Jmo. Moo
 
I believe it is a combination of factors-- but it really comes back to the person doing the crime. With all of the violence in our society whether it is from movies, video games, internet, or whatever, most people ( including children) don't become killers, so I am left with the idea that ultimately it is that person (child) who is damaged, emotionally or mentally, or yes, just plain evil. We can't forget the home life of that person and parenting----there are issues of abuse as well. Nowadays we have social media, which is a relatively new element in our lives-- there is so much toxicity, bullying and such, that social media has to play a role in the development of murderers, including children committing murders and other crimes. Why do some people commit crimes and put the crime on Facebook? They want that recognition and attention. This is a terribly complex issue which has no one answer.
 
Blaming Internet/games/Social Media, etc
seems too simple IMO.
A convenient scapegoat.

Although my guess is simple as well:

Poor parenting.
Ineffective parental methods.
Negative role models.
Neglect.
Broken homes.
Damaged parents= damaged kids.

It all starts at home.

Re "Florida Student"
This attack had deeper cause than taking his console.
Much deeper.

JMO
It is not only blaming internet games. But have you seen some of the violent content in these games? Kids are sitting for hours and hours at a time, literally some play them 8 hours straight---and it consists of shooting at people or fighting and kicking people, over and over for hours a day, for months and years.

How can we ignore what that is doing to their young minds? The first impulse becomes aggression and violence if that is what they have focused on for hours and hours every day and night.
 
I believe it is a combination of factors-- but it really comes back to the person doing the crime. With all of the violence in our society whether it is from movies, video games, internet, or whatever, most people ( including children) don't become killers, so I am left with the idea that ultimately it is that person (child) who is damaged, emotionally or mentally, or yes, just plain evil. We can't forget the home life of that person and parenting----there are issues of abuse as well. Nowadays we have social media, which is a relatively new element in our lives-- there is so much toxicity, bullying and such, that social media has to play a role in the development of murderers, including children committing murders and other crimes. Why do some people commit crimes and put the crime on Facebook? They want that recognition and attention. This is a terribly complex issue which has no one answer.
I agree that it totally depends upon many factors. Children with nurturing, caring families are less affected by the violent content in films/games than those that are in toxic, dysfunctional living situations. Those unlucky kids are more vulnerable to temptations like drugs/alcohol which can lead to violent incidents as well. IMO

I do agree that many are seeking attention and public recognition, even if for negative things---like attacking or robbing tc.
 
It is not only blaming internet games. But have you seen some of the violent content in these games? Kids are sitting for hours and hours at a time, literally some play them 8 hours straight---and it consists of shooting at people or fighting and kicking people, over and over for hours a day, for months and years.

How can we ignore what that is doing to their young minds? The first impulse becomes aggression and violence if that is what they have focused on for hours and hours every day and night.

So...
isn't it parents' fault that kids under THEIR care
(quoting OP)
"are sitting for hours and hours at a time ..."
watching such games?

Parental duty is to control activities of their children.
Minors are THEIR responsibility.

But hey,
some are only too happy not to be bothered because kids are sitting quietly in their rooms doing... WHAT precisely?

Maybe we should start holding parents accountable for their kids' crimes.

This happened in Georgia, USA, after the latest school shooting.
Good!

JMO
 
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It is not only blaming internet games. But have you seen some of the violent content in these games? Kids are sitting for hours and hours at a time, literally some play them 8 hours straight---and it consists of shooting at people or fighting and kicking people, over and over for hours a day, for months and years.

How can we ignore what that is doing to their young minds? The first impulse becomes aggression and violence if that is what they have focused on for hours and hours every day and night.

[bbm]

do you have a source or is that your opinion
 

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