Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher, 34, Abducted while jogging 4:30 am, forced into SUV, Central Ave near Univ of M, personal items found, Memphis 2 Sept 2022

[Sleuthypsych]

Why does his booking date say 6/27?

 

[LucyRocket]

Why does his booking date say 6/27?

I’m guessing he was booked in for a different offence back in June

 

[darkstar105]

People were saying the dog park inside Overton Park.

(Rest snipped by me) I can't think of a worse place to dump a body than a dog park.

 

[Sleuthypsych]

Liza does not fit the profile of a sex trafficking victim in any way, imo.

What is Human Trafficking?

www.justice.gov

It can be opportunistic. Especially if a quota is not met. She’s not the age profile but she is a youngish looking female and was near a university. He may have thought she was younger. We just don’t know.

 

[katydid23]

We still have no idea what happened. He didn’t kill the other man. Could be sex trafficking

He didn't kill the other man because he was rescued by a uniformed patrolman at the ATM machine. He likely would have been killed after they got the money if that stroke of luck hadn't saved him.

He/They didn't grab Eliza for robbery purposes, most likely. He/They just saw an opportunity to be predators, imo.

 

[katydid23]

(Rest snipped by me) I can't think of a worse place to dump a body than a dog park.

Exactly. A hidden body would not stay hidden very long when the pups arrive. My German Shepherd would be all over that immediately--forget the frisbee.

 

[LucyRocket]

<modsnip> If you look at the Memphis Police Dept replies to this tweet, they say as part of the investigation a second arrest was made on drugs and firearms offences. Possibly at the apartment they stormed?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1566171599665086464

 

[asyousay]

I hope he will do the right thing and lead them to her. But when you have absolutely zero to gain from confessing and he seems like a low life I wonder if he has any humanity in him.


Mooo

 

[imstilla.grandma]

This may be a bit random but I have never seen this before. What does True Bills and & no true Bills mean?

True bill (also called true bill of indictment) refers to a decision to indict a criminal defendant by a Grand Jury. When a Grand Jury decides the prosecution has provided enough evidence to show probable cause, they give a true bill which actually indicts the defendant, but if a Grand Jury thinks the prosecution did not show probable cause, they issue a no bill which forces the prosecution to drop the charges.

true bill

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[ShouldBWorking]

I should really be asleep! Woke and and started looking and just saw this posted.

 

[DeDee]

I see his address as 261 Greenfield Drive, Jackson. Any locals able to put that into context with the other locations please?

Thank you for the maps so far, I’ve found them super helpful

Perhaps that is an old addy because Jackson, TN is about 80 miles NW from Memphis.

 

[asyousay]

True bill (also called true bill of indictment) refers to a decision to indict a criminal defendant by a Grand Jury. When a Grand Jury decides the prosecution has provided enough evidence to show probable cause, they give a true bill which actually indicts the defendant, but if a Grand Jury thinks the prosecution did not show probable cause, they issue a no bill which forces the prosecution to drop the charges.

true bill

www.law.cornell.edu

Thank you for the explanation

We don’t have stuff like this in the UK so it’s always good to learn.

 

[Woodberry]

Sixteen months after he was kidnapped at gunpoint and thrown into the trunk of his car, attorney Kemper Durand watched with some regret last week as two juveniles involved in the case were given prison sentences.

Durand was walking to his car around 2 a.m. on May 25, 2000, after attending a par ty on Beale Street when a lone gunman walked up behind him, took his wallet, and forced him into the trunk. The abductor, Cleotha Abston, drove around and picked up friends then, after about two hours, escorted Durand into a Mapco station to withdraw money from an ATM. A uniformed Memphis Housing Authority officer entered, Durand yelled that he had been kidnapped, and the kidnappers ran away.

On Monday, Abston pled guilty just before he was scheduled to go to trial and was sentenced to 20 years in prison without parole. He had earlier turned down an offer of 15 years on the same charge but, according to Durand, told the court Òhe did not want to sign his name giving himself the time.Ó Abston has a long juvenile record of theft and aggravated assault.

He was sentenced to 20 years, I wonder when he was released?

MOO

Edited to remove apparent clipboard content….my browser has a mind of its own.

 

[asyousay]

Has it been confirmed anywhere by a legit source that clothes were found in a bin by a McDonald’s?


Moo

 

[Dotta]

Cops search McDonald's dumpster in hunt for missing Memphis heiress

Police in Tennessee have 'detained' a man and located the car being sought in relation to the kidnapping of Memphis billionaire heiress Eliza Fletcher.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Diogenetic]

Why does his booking date say 6/27?

Could be he was out on bail awaiting disposition for that June 2022 crime or charges dropped.

 

[BeckyF]

I wish they would stop calling her a 'billionaire heiress'. She is one of many grandchildren of a wealthy man. In the end she's a mom. Plain and simple.
I get that media will use the 'hooks' in their headlines and I get that when someone has wealthy realtives a kidnapping for money must be considered, but I think they are just diminishing her as an actual person.

Same here. What does that have to do with anything? It really makes me angry.

 

[BrownRice]

The quote below is from www.heavy.com (not a new article):

“The alert says that a “male approached her at approximately 4:30 a.m. in the middle of Central Avenue and appeared to leave with her in an unknown vehicle following a brief struggle.” Police figured this out by obtaining surveillance video showing the abduction.”

I know this has been discussed before about being one/two abductors. She is running in the street (most runners do) and he was waiting for her? Why would he just hang out there?

Can’t imagine he’d be able to get her in his SUV, close the door, and walk around to the drivers door without her bolting? There would have to be another person driving I’d think. And if so, I’d be inclined to think it’s a robbery but runners don’t typically carry debit cards.

This doesn’t make sense.

 

[asyousay]

Is it a good sign he has been arrested for Kidnapping and not Murder at this stage?

Does this give hope she is alive somewhere and being held?

 

[Diogenetic]

There has to have been two people in the SUV. No way they could get her (even with a struggle) into the SUV after a brief chase (BQ qualifier and very athletic). She appears sweet but also feisty. Two people in the SUV, twice as likely someone will crack. Less reason to release the video. Working to have someone flip. IMO

IMO this was planned and there is a more sinister side that will be revealed. I would like nothing more than for them to find her and safely get her home. MOO is that will not happen; the perps may not have known her well or at all but this was targeted.. JMO-man.

People who have lifelong crime history, or plenty of time in prison, or for that matter good self defense training, all know that the initiative of violence, especially by surprise, is very powerful advantage.
There is a reason why even a 6'2" fit police officer will stand bladed at an angle, weak side forward) and with his hands up at his upper chest, when interviewing anyone, including weaker persons, which the officer considers even a remotely possible threat. A cop, or you or I, under most circumstances, cannot just haul off and cold clock you with a full punch in the face while your interaction isnt yet violent, a criminal can and will. Most people will not even recognize the pre-strike indicators, like a quick glance around and rocking back. You could be the top marathon runner, or sprinter, and a good sucker punch to the face is going debilitate you if not knock you unconscious. If you have seen surveillance videos of street robberies/mugging, assailants are telegraphing they are going to strike and quickly do so, and the victim is usually not taking basic steps to minimize that risk.