TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - # 8

[dog.gone.cute]

I know this is going to sound stupid, but I wonder why the brother was looking out the window? I mean, it was around 7ish in the morning. Did he just randomly look outside? It all seems so strange to me. If you saw your little sis walking into the woods with someone when you knew she was supposed to be going to school then wouldn't you kind of keep checking every few minutes to make sure she had left, etc? I guess what I'm getting at is that he happened to randomly look outside when she was being lead into the woods but didn't check again to see if her car was gone?

:rocker:

Your post makes total sense to me.

If the "perp" was "scoping out" the house, wouldn't the perp have to know other family members' schedules as well ?

What I would like to know is what is the brother's schedule ? Is he normally up at 7:00 am ... does he go to work .. go to school ? Maybe he heard something ?

 

[cluciano63]

Does anyone know the boyfriend's initial?

I still think he had about an hour head start after taking her...even if LE got there 15 minutes after being called, which was 15 minutes after she was taken, you have to interview brother again at house, and then assemble searchers...LE did not drive up and run into woods en masse.

 

[For The Kids]

His FB page states they are in a relationship, however, hers doesnt state that at all. Just an observation.

Hers is private though so it wouldnt show you the status. But her profile pic has a photo of both of them together though.

 

[scorekeeper]

rule out Clint, determine how much of a head start perp had. Determine if within timeframe of LE arriving if it makes more sense that she was taken to a car rather than him fleeing into deep woods with her.

According to LE, Clint IS NOT a POI.

but agree with BBM

 

[maskedwoman]

I know this is going to sound stupid, but I wonder why the brother was looking out the window? I mean, it was around 7ish in the morning. Did he just randomly look outside? It all seems so strange to me. If you saw your little sis walking into the woods with someone when you knew she was supposed to be going to school then wouldn't you kind of keep checking every few minutes to make sure she had left, etc? I guess what I'm getting at is that he happened to randomly look outside when she was being lead into the woods but didn't check again to see if her car was gone?

I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why it seems so weird that he looked outside. I look out my windows all the time. I never know when a deer or turkey might be in my yard and I like to watch them. And I look outside to see what my horses are doing. It doesn't seem so strange to me that he looked outside.

One day I looked out the window just in time to run out and rescue my dog from a mama deer. She had wandered too close to the baby and was getting her butt kicked. I have no idea why I looked out just then, but I did.

 

[mrsu]

His FB page states they are in a relationship, however, hers doesnt state that at all. Just an observation.

Her profile is private though. So unless you are a friend you wouldn't see that information. She could have it listed, just not for anyone to see.

 

[concentric]

This is really the ONLY part that makes me think it was a stranger. I just cant see her going without a fight unless it was someone she was already VERY afraid of or someone she would not hit out of some type of respect...

Everything else screams someone close to her but if it was it seems if they made her bleed she would have reciprocated...even if she had to pick up something and knock him out.

I'm seriously trying to go over it in my head and I just cant see why she wouldnt fight unless EXTREME fear was involved.

Yeah, he pretty well had to gain control quickly and intimidate the heck out of her with a weapon, JMO. We talked about the possibility that he held a knife to her throat and that's where the blood is from.

I thought about the books and lunch tote also. I think he could multi-task, so to speak, and had a backpack or something at the ready.

 

[For The Kids]

Does anyone know the boyfriend's initial?

I still think he had about an hour head start after taking her...even if LE got there 15 minutes after being called, which was 15 minutes after she was taken, you have to interview brother again at house, and then assemble searchers...LE did not drive up and run into woods en masse.

The boyfriends initials is DS,

 

[sherbetjello]

I know this is going to sound stupid, but I wonder why the brother was looking out the window? I mean, it was around 7ish in the morning. Did he just randomly look outside? It all seems so strange to me. If you saw your little sis walking into the woods with someone when you knew she was supposed to be going to school then wouldn't you kind of keep checking every few minutes to make sure she had left, etc? I guess what I'm getting at is that he happened to randomly look outside when she was being lead into the woods but didn't check again to see if her car was gone?

Maybe a large, forward facing window?
I had one of those in my home growing up, it over looked the driveway. It was sort of hard NOT to look out of it when going to the bathroom (which was across the hallway).

 

[ellabella]

Okay....I know this is a small community and everyone knows everyone, but who really has over 600 "FRIENDS"? I can pretty much guarantee some of those are random people that saw a pretty face and sent a friend's request. I would def be checking her FB for someone she may have met online...

It seems like a lot, but I have over 500 I believe, and I know every one in person. I have a big family, small town, travelled some. I have that many, and i probably haven't added anyone in over a year, maybe 2? and there are still a ton of people who aren't on my list, who I know.

I would definitely still look into it, as well as those who are dropping off. I just have to keep hoping the police know far more than they are sharing. I feel so awful for her brother(and family).

 

[The Farm]

I live in the country and am always looking out my windows when I am home. I check on the horses and all the animals and look for wildlife. It is just something I do.

 

[lishac23]

Not that particular area. I have been to the state park a few years ago. However, it is like much of Middle Tennessee where i grew up in a small town in the country.

Ok...thanks. I was just wondering if there might be another reason the searchers choose to go that way (besides the lunch box) as opposed to any other route.

 

[Lera213]

I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why it seems so weird that he looked outside. I look out my windows all the time. I never know when a deer or turkey might be in my yard and I like to watch them. And I look outside to see what my horses are doing. It doesn't seem so strange to me that he looked outside.

One day I looked out the window just in time to run out and rescue my dog from a mama deer. She had wandered too close to the baby and was getting her butt kicked. I have no idea why I looked out just then, but I did.

You know LE could be leaving some part of his statement out. I tend to believe that he looked out the window because his sister was going to school, perhaps he noticed he didn't hear her car leave, and looked out the window. This is when he saw her going into the woods. After a few minutes something (my guess is what LE is leaving out) prompted him or his memory kicked in seeing a spot on the driveway, or he went out to investigate..see some part of his statement is being left out. I heard a person being interviewed (don't have the link) that stated the brother did the right thing.

 

[cluciano63]

It is hard to believe the 7th day of searching is nearly over and no sign of Holly.
I think it is possible LE has a strong POI in mind, but that may not not help them in finding her...

 

[imamaze]

I seen some questions about posting info from social networks. Here is the rule for this. If you have any other questions you can pm me or any Mod.

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[punklove]

Not pointing fingers; Im confused about the brother issue - I know that its not said that he saw Holly walking into the woods with the UNSUB (not being dragged as first reported) and that he only felt something was wrong when he found blood on the driveway.

Whos blood was it?

Its certainly possible that she was simply going with that person without being forced - someone she knew could have come up to her as she was leaving and asked her to come with them to look at something, or even showed her a weapon and told her to come with him. In this scenario its quite possible that anyone (the brother) seeing them from behind could just assume that whatever was going on was innocent.

Yet when you add the blood to the mix it leaves me confused - if the blood was hers wouldnt it be likely her demeanor would be completely opposite of someone going into the woods with someone else willingly?

When she left the home its obvious she ran into someone - she either fought back or was attacked or SOMETHING happened that caused the blood to be on the driveway. Something happened to make her bleed on the driveway and you can only assume that she knew her brother was in the home so I wonder if she called out to him and maybe he didnt hear?

I guess my issue is this - she knew she was in harms way BEFORE the walk into the woods (due to the fact she was bleeding) and she also knew her brother was in the home. So why would she walk calmly into the woods (while injured) with this person knowing that her brother was close enough to help her?

If she were bleeding and being led into the woods one would assume you could tell something was wrong even from behind - unless she was trying to act as though everything was ok. Even if being forced into the woods you more than likely would be able to tell the person was in trouble from behind because the body language would give one of them away.

So, I guess my question is this - why would she go quietly into the woods with someone that just wounded her when she knew her brother was right inside the home? Even when shes going into the woods why wasnt she looking around for help or trying to push the person away from her?

I could understand her going into the woods before she was ever harmed in hopes that the person wouldnt hurt her but it would be a natural reaction to scream for help if someone attacks you right outside your home.

 

[ensht]

What people need to realize is the threshold for being named a suspect or POI is pretty high. Read this article on Molly Bish and take a look at the composite sketch, all the circumstantial evidence, statements of the exwife etc...and he's still not even a "suspect"

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6797785&page=1

 

[DNeecie]

Right. Someone else had posted above that perhaps his wall was set to private and that's why we couldn't see any posts. That's what I'm saying, if his wall was set to private we wouldn't even see the wall at all.

When my sister first made her FB page she turned comments off. You could see her wall and a few comments from other people but nothing after she turned them off. I couldn't figure out why her "post on wall" button was missing until she sent me a message. Don't know how she did it though.

 

[mrsu]

Seeing on the FB page where people have called in tips to the Sheriff's dept. and they are disappointed in how the calls are handled. Like their tips are not important.

Had a much better response calling TBI.

https://www.facebook.com/BHBHS

 

[mrsu]

When my sister first made her FB page she turned comments off. You could see her wall and a few comments from other people but nothing after she turned them off. I couldn't figure out why her "post on wall" button was missing until she sent me a message. Don't know how she did it though.

Yes, you can set your wall so no one can post to it and no one will see anything. You can do it in the account settings.

ETA: But we can see DS's wall so we know it's not set to private.