AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #27

[hdo82]

Somehow I get this feeling that at some point over the last few weeks the Sheriff looked over all the evidence that has been amassed, all the social media blather and podcasts impinging in his case, the unique socio economic influences of the region and all the conflicting statements and times noted by involved parties, put his elbows on his desk, his chin in his hands and thought "that dog don't hunt". Indeed Sheriff, that dog surely don't hunt.

ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS POST!

 

[kittythehare]

Yes, I think many of the dogs are probably strays that they "adopted."

I went back and listened to the interview with CW at the reservoir and it was "packs of dogs" that she said were in the woods in addition to snakes, coyotes, etc.

Either way, she seemed confident that Summer would not wander into the woods by herself. I think if there was an animal attack there would have been evidence of that.

IMO

I would have imagined so.
I'll ask @Trackergd why he thinks they might be significant? Or is there any possibility that an animal could have taken her without leaving , at least significant prints? Just if you have the time, please, @Trackergd
It can wait.

 

[kittythehare]

I know very, very little about this. My guess is that there would be a shoe (whole or identifiable piece, like the sole) - but DW said she wasn’t wearing shoes. That would leave large bones (skull?) and hair/fabric in scat. JM very uneducated guesses.

I don't know.
I suppose the question is whether a wild animal known to inhabit that area would have a habit of taking live prey away intact.
what animal is known to do this and what, if any tracks would they be likely to have left?

 

[hdo82]

Okay. Let’s see if I’ve got this right, and it’s hard to keep up. So far we’ve got someone in a red truck, some guy on the property groping kids, snakes, bears, coyotes, and wild dogs that all might have snatched SW.

That certainly is a lot of possibilities being suggested. A lot.

amateur opinion and speculation

ALSO.. "someone grabbed Summer and put her into her car and drove not too far away." So we have a "her" from Don. JMO but it was said.

 

[MyBelle]

I don't know.
I suppose the question is whether a wild animal known to inhabit that area would have a habit of taking live prey away intact.
what animal is known to do this and what, if any tracks would they be likely to have left?

Why would an animal drag away a human body?

 

[MrsWatson]

Why would an animal drag away a human body?

They might take it to their den or their food stash, but I doubt that could be done without leaving lots of evidence. And tracks.

And wouldn't some of the tracking dogs scent on something related to that?

 

[SLouTh]

ALSO.. "someone grabbed Summer and put her into her car and drove not too far away." So we have a "her" from Don. JMO but it was said.

A Freudian slip? Or trying to throw some one under the bus?
There is one female that we know of that drove not too far away…

Definitely an interesting point Hdo….. thanks for sharing that.

JMO

 

[bellesnwhistles]

ALSO.. "someone grabbed Summer and put her into her car and drove not too far away." So we have a "her" from Don. JMO but it was said.

Yeah he’s thrown the “rich lady steals her” scenario around in at least one interview. I don’t know any rich lady’s that go around snatching kids

 

[rosesfromangels]

In considering the possibilities vs. probabilities, here is some useful data:
http://www.city-data.com/city/Rogersville-Tennessee.html

 

[SLouTh]

Can someone explain what “that dog don’t hunt” means please ?

Guessing it is an American saying?

Thanks…

 

[Tiff23fr]

I would have imagined so.
I'll ask @Trackergd why he thinks they might be significant? Or is there any possibility that an animal could have taken her without leaving , at least significant prints? Just if you have the time, please, @Trackergd
It can wait.

I appreciate the outside the box thinking @kittythehare . I get hung up on the animal angle as a possibility when I think about the tracking dogs and searchers that combed the area. It would seem that a wild animal would have left behind evidence of torn clothing at some point. In the immediate perimeter around the house, maybe @Trackergd can give insight if an animal would have left a trail such as: flattened grass, broken twigs, or a clear disturbance across a dirt patch or the driveway as it would seem an animal would drag rather than lift and carry.
Just my thoughts as I attempt to explore the possibility presented.

 

[katydid23]

Can someone explain what “that dog don’t hunt” means please ?

Guessing it is an American saying?

Thanks…

-This phrase originated in the southern United States - particularly in the state of Texas. It generally is used to refer to something that is faulty, such as an idea that is illogical or an event turns out to be a wash.

 

[SLouTh]

-This phrase originated in the southern United States - particularly in the state of Texas. It generally is used to refer to something that is faulty, such as an idea that is illogical or an event turns out to be a wash.

Thanks for that….. greatly appreciated…..

 

[kittythehare]

I appreciate the outside the box thinking @kittythehare . I get hung up on the animal angle as a possibility when I think about the tracking dogs and searchers that combed the area. It would seem that a wild animal would have left behind evidence of torn clothing at some point. In the immediate perimeter around the house, maybe @Trackergd can give insight if an animal would have left a trail such as: flattened grass, broken twigs, or a clear disturbance across a dirt patch or the driveway as it would seem an animal would drag rather than lift and carry.
Just my thoughts as I attempt to explore the possibility presented.

I'm only interested 'cos of Tracker's post about feral dogs...
I , too would have assumed that certainly evidence would have been discovered almost immediately.
I'm googling but I cannot find how this situation-no tracks, no blood, no body, could arise.
(having already considered aliens, angels, eagles or and whatever else might come from the sky)

Complete deadlock.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I don't know.
I suppose the question is whether a wild animal known to inhabit that area would have a habit of taking live prey away intact.
what animal is known to do this and what, if any tracks would they be likely to have left?

Other than King Kong, I can't think of any. Wild animals kill primarily for food or sport. JMO

I'm sure someone will want to debate the "for sport". You know what I mean

 

[kittythehare]

Other than King Kong, I can't think of any. Wild animals kill primarily for food or sport. JMO

Under what circumstances would they carry off a fully intact human body though?
Carry her alive back to their lair or den?
Or dead but a bloodless death?

 

[MyBelle]

They might take it to their den or their food stash, but I doubt that could be done without leaving lots of evidence. And tracks.

And wouldn't some of the tracking dogs scent on something related to that?

I think lots of evidence including a blood trail.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Under what circumstances would they carry off a fully intact human body though?
Carry her alive back to their lair or den?
Or dead but a bloodless death?

They wouldn't. Even if they dragged her unconscious, she would not have stayed in that condition for long. Wild animals use teeth or claws. It wouldn't be bloodless. Jmo

 

[flashy09]

Can someone explain what “that dog don’t hunt” means please ?

Guessing it is an American saying?

Thanks…

Phrase: That dog won't hunt. (US) That idea will not work; that is an inadequate explanation or proposition.

I didn't bold, that is how it copied straight from Google. Great saying!

 

[MsMarple]

They might take it to their den or their food stash, but I doubt that could be done without leaving lots of evidence. And tracks.

And wouldn't some of the tracking dogs scent on something related to that?

Speaking only from one experience I found a deer carcass on our land in Tennessee after a local bear killed it. The deer was left in the middle of a well used trail. The body was intact more or less and only the internal organs had been eaten.

This was on 160 acres during the summer and there were ample food and water sources.