AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #27

[MsMarple]

IMO both CW & DW overstate things to the point of being questionable. Things like 2 - 5 minutes to check on Summer, walking her across the yard to the front door, 5 minutes in the grocery store, Summer never does anything without asking first, DW did a 40 minute drive in 25, etc, etc. Maybe this is an automatic response, a reflex due to past run ins with the authorities. Just a thought.

IMO like you say, CB and DW may be exaggerating their stories reflexively due to past difficulties with the authorities... or they may be telling the truth, no matter how odd or unreasonable it may sound. Maybe they're even lying; there's no law saying either one has to tell the truth to msm, the public or YT interviewers, it's only LE who matters legally.

My point is that we just don't know. It's frustrating and exhausting having to think around their words and even worse, feel that we constantly have to come up with creative excuses in order to make any sense out of what they say.

CB said in at least two interviews that she checked on Summer within 2 minutes. When Chris said "2 to 10 minutes" she corrected him and said "2 to 5 minutes!" What do we make of that? She had a prime opportunity to admit it may have been longer but was adamant that it wasn't more than 5 minutes.

So are we to believe CB still really meant a different amount of time or should we believe her words? Do we call her a liar or someone who can't tell time in order to understand her story of what happened that day?

CM: “There is a time frame here between this trailer and that house within, you said two to ten minutes, maybe…” (29:29)​

• CBW: “No, two to five.” (29:31)
  
  
• CM: “Two to five. And then she goes in, and now she’s gone. What do you think happened?” (29:38)
  
  
• CBW: “I dunnno.” (29:40)

 

[flashy09]

Yup, after more than two months, the W's suddenly bring up a "scream".

It's very concerning DW clarifies to say it was like a hand over a mouth, muffled scream, especially if it seems unlikely a neighbor did hear anything.

 

[MyBelle]

IMO like you say, CB and DW may be exaggerating their stories reflexively due to past difficulties with the authorities... or they may be telling the truth, no matter how odd or unreasonable it may sound. Maybe they're even lying; there's no law saying either one has to tell the truth to msm, the public or YT interviewers, it's only LE who matters legally.

My point is that we just don't know. It's frustrating and exhausting having to think around their words and even worse, feel that we constantly have to come up with creative excuses in order to make any sense out of what they say.

CB said in at least two interviews that she checked on Summer within 2 minutes. When Chris said "2 to 10 minutes" she corrected him and said "2 to 5 minutes!" What do we make of that? She had a prime opportunity to admit it may have been longer but was adamant that it wasn't more than 5 minutes.

So are we to believe CB still really meant a different amount of time or should we believe her words? Do we call her a liar or someone who can't tell time in order to understand her story of what happened that day?

CM: “There is a time frame here between this trailer and that house within, you said two to ten minutes, maybe…” (29:29)​

• CBW: “No, two to five.” (29:31)
  
  
• CM: “Two to five. And then she goes in, and now she’s gone. What do you think happened?” (29:38)
  
  
• CBW: “I dunnno.” (29:40)

I believe the point of CM's question was because if CW escorted SW to the house--and if CW asked her son to keep an eye on SW while in the house--why was there a need for CW to so quickly return to the house, go downstairs and check on SW after such an incredibly short period of time?

 

[MsBetsy]

Yup, after Summer has been missing more than two months, the W's suddenly bring up a "scream".

Maybe the neighbor's really did hear a scream, but like DW said, LE didn't think it was relevant. We don’t know what they described when they were questioned. It could have been the sound of the kids playing earlier or even an animal in the woods.

 

[Jettson]

IMO like you say, CB and DW may be exaggerating their stories reflexively due to past difficulties with the authorities... or they may be telling the truth, no matter how odd or unreasonable it may sound. Maybe they're even lying; there's no law saying either one has to tell the truth to msm, the public or YT interviewers, it's only LE who matters legally.

My point is that we just don't know. It's frustrating and exhausting having to think around their words and even worse, feel that we constantly have to come up with creative excuses in order to make any sense out of what they say.

CB said in at least two interviews that she checked on Summer within 2 minutes. When Chris said "2 to 10 minutes" she corrected him and said "2 to 5 minutes!" What do we make of that? She had a prime opportunity to admit it may have been longer but was adamant that it wasn't more than 5 minutes.

So are we to believe CB still really meant a different amount of time or should we believe her words? Do we call her a liar or someone who can't tell time in order to understand her story of what happened that day?

CM: “There is a time frame here between this trailer and that house within, you said two to ten minutes, maybe…” (29:29)​

• CBW: “No, two to five.” (29:31)
  
  
• CM: “Two to five. And then she goes in, and now she’s gone. What do you think happened?” (29:38)
  
  
• CBW: “I dunnno.” (29:40)

I'm not saying this applies here because, as you say, we don't know if CW & DW are telling the truth, exaggerating, or lying. But I would guess that someone who instinctively feels the need to defend themselves against the authorities might also be more likely to fall into an accident-panic-cover up scenario. Not saying that happened here. Just thinking. IMO.

 

[hey-Debbie]

I have been going through each interview, news article, and post and have been thinking all night about something specific. I can’t find it now so now I’m unsure if I was dreaming. Does anyone recall reading or hearing that the basement door was locked from the outside when mom, grandma, and SW went to town?

Wasn't that in one of the interviews with CM when she was walking around showing him the house and she went outside with him?

 

[MsBetsy]

She actually did say this. Whether she misspoke or didn’t understand, I have no idea.

Yes, when she said the boys were locked in/locked out, I don't think she meant the boys were literally locked in the house. Most doors can be easily unlocked from the inside.

I think she meant that nobody could get into the house while the boys were inside.

Also, the kids were apparently free to run from the basement door to the swing or the woods so it doesn't sound like they were ever locked in the house. Imo

 

[Chelly]

For anyone who missed it, last night's interview of Chris McDonough by WebSleuth's Tricia about the Wells case was excellent. Both did super job of focusing on logic and the facts Here's a link:

 

[rosesfromangels]

Yes, when she said the boys were locked in/locked out, I don't think she meant the boys were literally locked in the house. Most doors can be easily unlocked from the inside.

I think she meant that nobody could get into the house while the boys were inside.

Also, the kids were apparently free to run from the basement door to the swing or the woods so it doesn't sound like they were ever locked in the house. Imo

I tend to agree. They lived out in the country, their home very isolated. I'm sure the kids were used to running free, as kids in the country do. This explains the fuzzy timeline to some degree. CW and CH were doing whatever they were doing, and SW was likely playing around the house as she had many, many times before. What was different about that day of course, is still be determined.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[ivegotcha]

I think that last sentence , BBM, is a big red flag. CW made a big point of showing CM the little room where Summer slept in a bunk bed, along with her youngest brother. But days later Don negated that information, and told us that Summer slept right next to him, every night of her life, for the past 5 years. In fact she cried and begged to stay in his bed every night, according to him.

So is he saying his wife was lying when she said the opposite to CM on his show?

Hum, CW may not have wanted to share the bed situation with the public..... because that is my big red flag...

 

[LietKynes]

Yup, after Summer has been missing more than two months, the W's suddenly bring up a "scream".

That's sad.
It would have been more helpful if the Well's brought that up immediately.
Helping LE will also help find your missing child that much faster.
MOO.

 

[MsMarple]

I tend to agree. They lived out in the country, their home very isolated. I'm sure the kids were used to running free, as kids in the country do. This explains the fuzzy timeline to some degree. CW and CH were doing whatever they were doing, and SW was likely playing around the house as she had many, many times before. What was different about that day of course, is still be determined.

Amateur opinion and speculation

Except on the day Summer disappeared there's no indication she was roaming freely in the yard or house. On that day CB had to follow her carefully across the driveway and into the house then make sure her brothers would watch her for 2 minutes until she returned.

I do agree with your comment in general though so for me the curious and sudden change in CB's behavior makes me question everything the parents have said happened that day. IMO there may be more than them trying to look good in the public's eye. Sometimes when I listen to them I feel like we're being played. Just my own opinion though and it doesn't mean either one harmed Summer.

 

[AbbeyBabbey]

It's very concerning DW clarifies to say it was like a hand over a mouth, muffled scream, especially if it seems unlikely a neighbor did hear anything.

Wasn't he relaying what the neighbor said? Seems she was traumatized over it once she found out SW was missing. MO

 

[CSIDreamer]

That's sad.
It would have been more helpful if the Well's brought that up immediately.
Helping LE will also help find your missing child that much faster.
MOO.

Did DW say when he found out about the scream?

 

[MyBelle]

Yes, when she said the boys were locked in/locked out, I don't think she meant the boys were literally locked in the house. Most doors can be easily unlocked from the inside.

I think she meant that nobody could get into the house while the boys were inside.

Also, the kids were apparently free to run from the basement door to the swing or the woods so it doesn't sound like they were ever locked in the house. Imo

For safety reasons, many outside doors--especially ones with glass--can't be opened from the inside without a key. Both the upstairs door and the basement door at the Wells' home had glass. That is to prevent someone from breaking the glass, reaching inside and unlocking it. I believe CW meant exactly what she said because CM observed her quickly locking the basement door after she closed it after they were outside. JMO

From dacjess' transcript upthread, CM's tour of the home with CW:

CBW: (about what happens when Summer comes in the house that day) “The boys are actually sitting here, they’re actually sitting right here at the table watching tv.” (13:33)

• CM: “Okay, so they’re at the table…” (13:36)
  
  
• CBW: “Yeah they were all locked in, nobody can get in, nobody can get out, that kind of thing.” (13:38)

 

[AbbeyBabbey]

That's sad.
It would have been more helpful if the Well's brought that up immediately.
Helping LE will also help find your missing child that much faster.
MOO.

More helpful to whom? Us? Posting about it?
We don't know when LE was informed of the scream or by whom. I'm sure they knew right away and talked to the witnesses. That's their job and I'm not going to throw shade at them as if they are incompetent.
IMHOO

 

[MyBelle]

<modsnip - quoted post was removed >
iirc, CW said Summer and one of her brother's bunkbeds were there. After Summer disappeared, they brought down a mattress so all the children would be together.
Because of all the drug activity DW claims is in that area, I really do believe they have those locks.

The woods around our house are very dense and filled with poison ivy so our kids always stayed out of it. JMO

 

[katydid23]

Yes, when she said the boys were locked in/locked out, I don't think she meant the boys were literally locked in the house. Most doors can be easily unlocked from the inside.

I think she meant that nobody could get into the house while the boys were inside.

Also, the kids were apparently free to run from the basement door to the swing or the woods so it doesn't sound like they were ever locked in the house. Imo

But she said 'nobody in and nobody out' ---so it sounds like she was saying they weren't supposed to go out

 

[LookinInn2]

Hunter's words: Summer is "missing"
CW's words: Summer is "gone"

Y'all!!!!!!!! HEADS UP!!!!

We need THREE "time lines."

There is another "he said she said."

Allie said, she did not remember if Summer Moon left her clothes at her house after allegedly a change to a swim suit at her house. Later with Chris she says CW stopped by at 10:30 out of nowhere. Hunter apparently didn't tell her about the text. Later that day she said Hunter was dropped off at 2:00pm and they stayed 5 or 10 mins. (Allie's granny is sitting close to Allie correcting her entire set of answers.)

GO LISTEN TO CHRIS MCDONOUGH INTERVIEW ALLIE, LESLIE & GRANNY!!!!

Allie says, CW tried to make conversation when Hunter was dropped off, which is the reason she would have showed up that day.

Notice, Allie knows nothing or says nothing about the waterpark.

Granny says that they had to leave right away. Consistent with CW.

Leslie is proof they all sit around talking about CW. They know too much for not being present at events described.

CW says, she tries to call Allie over but Allie wants no discussion.

(listen to how she change her answers after she realizes that she may have incriminated her son.)
START LISTENING @ (22:00)

WATCH... GRANNY!!!!!!!
Allie said, she sees Summer like her own daughter. (When she was alerted to Summer Moon being missing by her son, she never bothered to call CW immediately. She waited (after practice and ordering her food at a drive food) a good while when it was late at night."

Allie went out of her way to tell Chris that she was at a ball park and turned her phone off for "several hours."

"Boy, stop pulling my leg, I do not want to talk to her"

IMPORTANT ....... CRITICAL!!!!!

Hunter said: (when he received the call at 7:00 pm...."he and his girlfriends family were just pulling into the park???????

Leslie said: Hunter called (leslie's) her phone at 7:29 pm, she checked her phone to confirm.

Allie says, Hunter was at his girlfriend's house.

Where was Hunter between 3pm and 7pm. LE still has his phone...…

Allie says, Hunter mentioned nothing about the water hole, horse pond, when she asked how his day went.

Allie says Hunter was at his "girlfriends house." Allie can't remember his girlfriends NAME.

NEW ANGLE!!!!!!!

ADDITION:


MY addition:
LISTEN TO GRANNY'S DRIVEWAY ISSUES
LISTEN TO HOW THE DOGS BEHAVE WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO BE FED.

_____________________________SEE BELOW______________

Part 3
Chris McDonough Interviews Allie, Granny of Allie,

 

[Lillymac]

But she said 'nobody in and nobody out' ---so it sounds like she was saying they weren't supposed to go out

I might have missed it, but was she talking about day, night, or anytime?