AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #29

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hey-Debbie said:
I wasn't pointing out the candy for nutritional purposes. I was pointing it out that maybe another stop was made after H was dropped off. I just don't see those candies laying on the seat while H sits on them riding around. CW told us that those candies had been there. Maybe that's true but I just don't think I've ever seen anyone just blatantly sit on candy riding around in a car knowing that the shell coating would most likely get warm and rub off on clothes. Like @dacjess pointed out. Grandma couldn't get her seats wet but old candy on the seats while people sit on it is okay.
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Maybe the skittles got dumped on the seat after H was dropped off and they were driving home. No extra stop needed. No contradictions, JMO.
 
@hey-Debbie , at one point the story went that CH had bought the Skittles for SW. The vapes CB got were Skittles flavored. So, they smell like candy (i have been told). Eta... CH got the candy at one of the places they told us about... Maybe the Hippie Store, but could be Price Less.

I really believe that. SW probably only ate a few, then maybe spilled a few on accident. I don't think SW could eat a whole package of Skittles at once, she's just 5.

I would have gotten her Skittles because Skittles are delicious. I am not judging her food regularly because who knows. Kids need at least some candy.

Btw, i think four children could go through two gallons of milk pretty quickly. I really liked milk when I was a child. I think this is pretty normal. If i suddenly got hungry (like kids do) it was so convenient.
 
RANCH said:
Maybe the skittles got dumped on the seat after H was dropped off and they were driving home. No extra stop needed. No contradictions, JMO.
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That's of course very possible but when both parents have been caught with telling stories that are contradictions about other things you can't blame some for not taking their word for being total truth.
 
carbuff said:
Does anybody know what that building you can see out the back window in the milk jug photo is? Looks like a red barn maybe?
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People in the area say that's actually a red dumpster. The roll to the street kind of garbage can with the logo stamped on it.
Iirc jmho
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Source family website allowed here afaik
https://www.findsummerwells.com/
 
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Bit of hope said:
Why is this relevant?
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It’s relevant because it is the information listed on the official missing flyers. That is the only information people have to go by if they have not seen additional photos and videos of Summer. If her height is stated as 36”, and she was actually a head taller than that when she went missing, someone might have seen her but decided not to report the siting because of a discrepancy in how tall the child they saw was vs. the stated 36”.

The stated height for Summer has always seemed off, as though someone didn’t know how tall she was, so they guessed. She appears much taller in some pictures. I wish someone with killer photo/video editing skills could estimate her actual height by comparing photos/video of her to her surroundings so we know whether this is accurate. How tall is she in comparison to the vehicle she is standing next to, etc.? MOO
 
I feel kind of nervous thinking about Summer tonight. This is weird.

So, let's talk about her a little.

I noticed in one photo she was wearing a Frozen shirt that said Sisters and showed Anna and Elsa. One time, when CB was recounting the part about asking the boys to watch Summer, she called Summer "Sissy". That is a cute nickname.

Someone mentioned Summer seemed as if she wished she could ride the motorbikes like the boys. When CB was showing them to CM she gave the hp. So, we can guess which bike went to which boy, kinda. I know this is about the brothers, but still.

CB says Summer liked the dolls with the big eyes. She didn't know what they were called, she just bought them when Summer asked.
 
One of the few things I don’t find strange about this case is the pic of her sleeping on the milk. I’m a grown adult who can sleep anywhere and my kid is exactly the same. When they topple they just topple and that’s it. Try as I might I don’t see a situation that can’t be easily explained here.
 
I'm not really concerned with the groceries or the candy.
Sure I think the milk was probably getting warm by the time it made it inside the refrigerator.
I'm concerned with the apparent differences in timelines, etc.
Someone has to know something.
If you're reading here and wondering if you have any information that could lead searchers in the right direction, call the tipline.
1-800-TBI-FIND or call 911.
This case doesn't have to become a cold case. :(
Summer is beginning to give way to early fall.
We desperately need answers.
Whatever it takes, but we have to wait on official law enforcement updates.
Chi in TN
ETA I feel nervous talking about Summer Wells every single time. I've lost lots of sleep thinking about this little girl.
 
Woodberry said:
It’s relevant because it is the information listed on the official missing flyers. That is the only information people have to go by if they have not seen additional photos and videos of Summer. If her height is stated as 36”, and she was actually a head taller than that when she went missing, someone might have seen her but decided not to report the siting because of a discrepancy in how tall the child they saw was vs. the stated 36”.

The stated height for Summer has always seemed off, as though someone didn’t know how tall she was, so they guessed. She appears much taller in some pictures. I wish someone with killer photo/video editing skills could estimate her actual height by comparing photos/video of her to her surroundings so we know whether this is accurate. How tall is she in comparison to the vehicle she is standing next to, etc.? MOO
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Do people really note these things in terms of specific measurements or do they just assess on basis of “that kid could be 5”? Assess within a range of known expectations and match with general appearance?
 
Beans said:
One of the few things I don’t find strange about this case is the pic of her sleeping on the milk. I’m a grown adult who can sleep anywhere and my kid is exactly the same. When they topple they just topple and that’s it. Try as I might I don’t see a situation that can’t be easily explained here.
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At first I thought it was weird because it would make the milk hot, but after finding out H had it on his lap, it was toasty warm already.

It is just kind of an odd picture. Especially if you straighten it out. However, that location is close to where she lives, so presumably, she wasn't really doing that for very long.
 
Beans said:
Do people really note these things in terms of specific measurements or do they just assess on basis of “that kid could be 5”? Assess within a range of known expectations and match with general appearance?
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<modsnip>The poster says 3', her mother called her "a four foot baby". That is a big difference.

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December said:
Are you serious? The poster says 3', her mother called her "a four foot baby". That is a big difference.

Do you perceive someone 5' the same as someone 6'?
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Well, no, maybe not, but in either case, unless they're standing next to something that I know the height of, I'm not going to be able to make a very good guess. I know some people are better at it. I'm not.

They grow so fast at that age...even after a few weeks, I'd expect her to have grown some. Possibly quite a bit. So yeah, I'd be more looking for a cute "kindergartener" than any specific height.
 
carbuff said:
Well, no, maybe not, but in either case, unless they're standing next to something that I know the height of, I'm not going to be able to make a very good guess. I know some people are better at it. I'm not.

They grow so fast at that age...even after a few weeks, I'd expect her to have grown some. Possibly quite a bit. So yeah, I'd be more looking for a cute "kindergartener" than any specific height.
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Hmmm... I guess that is true...

I saw a little girl who did look like SW, but she was much too young (maybe 3 at most).
 
LookinInn2 said:
Is there a reward if we guess correctly?
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LE has access to all important details.

If I had all of the following:
  • Proof of foul play or accident
  • Text messages
  • Movement according to cell tower
  • Phone calls
  • Receipts from stores: Smoke Shop, Hippie House, Sonic, Super Market, Prescription
  • Video from as many location as possible:
  1. Put receipts in order
  2. Look at the timing between receipts
  3. Look at where text messages and phone calls line up with receipts
  4. Where cell towers ping for all phones and the time
Take phones from Allie, Leslie, Hunter's sister, Hunter's girlfriend and Grandma Allie

Line up all interviews from TBI and FBI and compare them with Chris McDonough's interview.

The only explanation I would look for is Hunter's full day and evening. He is the youngest, besides Summer Moon. He said, Allie said that he could go fishing for a little while.
IMO: Hunter was a mistake that day or he was needed for something. He wasn't supposed to be there. He said, mamma Candi, was strict and controlling. Why not go home.

What was happening from 10:00 am to 3pm. Five hours.
They didn't stop for lunch.
Everything, all stops were brief, accept the Horse Pond.
Hunter says that the Super Market was one hour. (LE will be checking to see if his phone was moving or stationary for an hours. Also, check to see if he was looking at Tik Tok with Summer Moon.)
All stops together would have taken 1 hr in total, at best.
When Hunter returned home he got out of the truck and went into the house. His mother wanted to hear how the fishing went. Hunter had nothing exciting to report. Allie implied that he didn't talk about any of the days events.

This is the critical part:
His phone should show the path he took at the horse pond. Candus says he walked up into the woods. How long was he in the woods? What phone calls did he make? What text messages did he send?
I believe Candus when she said Allie didn't go over to the truck. Grandma (of Allie) said that Candus did not linger. She drove off immediately.
Interestingly, Hunter all of a sudden couldn't remember the movement of the milk. However, when he saw the groceries, the milk stood out, first thing he noticed. He said that milk was on his lap on the way from the market to home. He said he didn't want to spill the milk so he held it in his lap. According to Hunter, Summer Moon was awake. One minute he doesn't remember, what happened with the milk, getting out of the truck, and going inside of his house. The next answer he gives Chris McDonough is that he got out of the truck to get the vape from Candus. Then he says that he remembers just wanting to get home so he could get together with his girlfriend. Selective memory.

LE need to put one time line together and reimagine one person's day: IMO: It's Hunter's day.
 
dacjess said:
Yes old Skittles are fine on the car seats in the non-air-conditioned car, but if you’re damp in your bathing suit, you must sit on a pillow.

I know that most of this stuff is absolutely irrelevant but I can’t get over how almost nothing makes any sense. JMO.
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Some guys don't worry about things like the skittles.
 
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