To all who believe Caylee is ALIVE, explain this?

[LinasK]

What I'd like to know is, why does anyone have a problem with others looking for an alive Caylee?

Seriously, is going to hurt you or the case if we investigate something other than getting more dirt on Casey or more evidence to support a dead Caylee?

Because it's taking away precious time from finding Caylee's remains intact to follow these wild goose chases- LE knows that and that's why they're not pursuing sightings of Caylee. There were many false sightings of Laci Peterson and Maddie McCann too...
It's also misdirection by Team Anthony, whom we know for a fact is reading here and I believe posting too...

 

[SleuthyGal]

I'm still interested in what proof the 'believers' are using to determine that Caylee is, in fact, alive.

Pointing to not having the FBI reports in front of them to show otherwise is not proof.

The people who believe Caylee is deceased are pointing to the things they have seen from LE or heard from LE to make a conclusion.

What EVIDENCE leads to a conclusion of an alive Caylee?

things like:

- verified sighting?
- photograph taken?
- eyewitness who saw Caylee w/someone?

anything?

 

[SleuthyGal]

I'm still interested in what proof the 'believers' are using to determine that Caylee is, in fact, alive.

Pointing to not having the FBI reports in front of them to show otherwise is not proof.

The people who believe Caylee is deceased are pointing to the things they have seen from LE or heard from LE to make a conclusion.

What EVIDENCE leads to a conclusion of an alive Caylee?

things like:

- verified sighting?
- photograph taken?
- eyewitness who saw Caylee w/someone?
- someone heard the little girl say her name in the last 9 weeks?
- a plane ticket?
- someone suddenly has 'adopted' a little 3 yr old girl who looks like Caylee?


anything?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

All true - but to say that it's fact because you heard it is incorrect, misleading, and assuming something based on heresay.

It's not evidence until it's evidence, right now it's just words coming out of someone's mouth.

When I see an OCSD officer on camera saying it...Yes...I do believe it to be factual information.

 

[mydailyopinions]

I don't have a problem at all with anyone looking for an alive Caylee. If this child is found alive, that would be the best thing in the world, and would more than certainly allow me to take back my life, as this has drained me.
I respect every one of you who think this child is alive. My opinion is different, and I choose not to argue with anyone over it anymore. Nothing at this point other than Concrete evidence will change my mind either way..
I do know one thing, and am as proud as any to say it..I hope those believers are able to down the road say "See, I told you so" rather than it being the other way around..There is nothing more I would love to see than this child alive, other than all sleuthers here to respect one another, and agree to disagree..
:blowkiss:

 

[LinasK]

I'm not sure what happened or how. Can I ask a question? Can anyone here believe that someone can be so scared (no, not showing it to the public), but so so scared that they can't talk out of fear.

No, not someone who is willing to sit and jail and do time for a crime they didn't commit. People tried to say that about Scott Peterson too.

 

[ylime11]

I'm still interested in what proof the 'believers' are using to determine that Caylee is, in fact, alive.

Pointing to not having the FBI reports in front of them to show otherwise is not proof.

The people who believe Caylee is deceased are pointing to the things they have seen from LE or heard from LE to make a conclusion.

What EVIDENCE leads to a conclusion of an alive Caylee?

things like:

- verified sighting?
- photograph taken?
- eyewitness who saw Caylee w/someone?
- someone heard the little girl say her name in the last 9 weeks?
- a plane ticket?
- someone suddenly has 'adopted' a little 3 yr old girl who looks like Caylee?


anything?

This is interesting to me because we dont ever hear of any of this information because someone (whether it is LE or the anthony's) wont make this information public. Interesting on how other information in the case has become public or leaked (decomp, hair, etc) Have they came out and said that there are no tips or sightings of Caylee? All I have heard is that they are actively working on tips and that nothing is coming from them. If nothing is coming from these tips, then why are the tips not public record?

 

[LinasK]

I don't mean Casey being scared, I mean being scared for Caylee. Maybe in her mind, she feels if she doesn't talk, Caylee won't be hurt. If this is the case and she know's they are watching her, then she won't talk.

Casey shows no inkling of being scared for Caylee, in fact she shows no emotion whatsoever about Caylee, except annoyance that the focus is on Caylee- rightfully where it SHOULD be!!!

 

[DTFulmer]

All true - but to say that it's fact because you heard it is incorrect, misleading, and assuming something based on heresay.

DAMN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LAWYER!

It's not evidence until it's evidence, right now it's just words coming out of someone's mouth.

Not to be a smart a$$, but so are your theories. We can agree to disagree on what we consider evidence, but I do not see any sign of "evidence" that compels me to believe Caylee is alive. No photos of her. No credible sightings (which include a who saw her, where, what she was wearing at the time, etc.). No evidence from Casey where a single shred of truth was uttered. No calls to mom or grandma from that sweet voice they would recognize. If any of them had evidence to the contrary, they would share it with someone. Perhaps not LE, but as some on the "alive" thread seem to be in contact with the family, I would think someone on this forum would have something more. If you do, I will drive my happy tail to FL and search myself. I think there are about a thousand others who read here who might do the same if a real, honest-to-God, credible tip was provided that we could being Caylee home alive.

 

[elitenls]

When I see an OCSD officer on camera saying it...Yes...I do believe it to be factual information.

That's your choice, which is perfectly fine and justified. Wouldn't hold up in court though -- so, it's still heresay, and thusly, not fact. I don't know why I have to say the same thing over and over again. You guys keep proving my point over and over again.

There's no facts that say she is alive, or dead. Just missing.

*sigh* I grow weary of this argument, there is no intellectual stimuli.

 

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

I'm not sure what happened or how. Can I ask a question? Can anyone here believe that someone can be so scared (no, not showing it to the public), but so so scared that they can't talk out of fear.

NO, I have a close family member that was a victim of a terrorist attack by the same ones who are behind 9/11.

This attack happened in Bali, which is a Muslim country. My relative was left lying in the bombed out building for many, many hours and then taken to a second rate hospital (where he received no medical attention ~ left on a gurney). His identification was found by a sympathizer and the family received many death threats telling them if they tried to move him, get him better medical help or come to the country they too would be sought out.


Guess what? They were on a plane less than 24 hours later after getting a rushed passport from the government. They didn’t even know if he was alive since so many of the victims had their ID’s stolen and locals were using them to get money out of their relatives. Once on the ground, and with the help of the US government on getting him documented as a US citizen, they then preceded to make arrangements for him to be flown to hospital that could treat his life-threatening wounds and did so in the public eye…….their every action being filmed by a local TV station.



He is alive today because the family was scared…….scared for his life and nothing, NOTHING stopped them. Not even death threats from those who support Al Qaeda.

ETA: Of all the days I could tell this story, today was the day.

Never FORGET ~ Always REMEMBER


eta: The fear my family experienced cannot ever be put into words, but it was life altering, but never did anyone waiver on what had to be done...NEVER.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I'm not sure what happened or how. Can I ask a question? Can anyone here believe that someone can be so scared (no, not showing it to the public), but so so scared that they can't talk out of fear.

Not if it involves the health, safety, well being and the very life of one of my children or grandchildren! Nothing and Nobody scares me that much! JMHO :furious:

 

[AutomaticAuttie]

I see more of a motive for her to hide Caylee and start a new life away from her parents then I do with the idea of her killing her. Casey did not need to kill Caylee to continue doing what she was doing (partying & whatever). She had been doing these things all along, it sounds to me like Caylee went most places with her even to parties. And she was loved and accepted by all Casey's friends.

 

[elitenls]

Not to be a smart a$$, but so are your theories. We can agree to disagree on what we consider evidence, but I do not see any sign of "evidence" that compels me to believe Caylee is alive. No photos of her. No credible sightings (which include a who saw her, where, what she was earing at the time, etc.). No evidence from Casey where a single shred of truth was uttered. No calls to mom or grandma from that sweet voice they would recognize. If any of them had evidence to the contrary, they would share it with someone. Perhaps not LE, but as some on the "alive" thread seem to be in contact with the family, I would think someone on this forum would have something more. If you do, I will drive my happy tail to FL and search myself. I think there are about a thousand others who read here who might do the same if a real, honest-to-God, credible tip was provided that we could being Caylee home alive.

I have not once, in any of my postings, disagreed with this/your view. Once again, I do not, myself, believe that this little girl is alive. Beliefs and fact are sometimes very different things. I can not prove she is alive, and I can not prove that she is dead.

I can and have proven that she is missing, as per my previous post where LE has created and distributed factual evidence in this case regarding the missing child. Other than that, it's all speculation based on heresay.

Can you prove she's dead, though, is the question I keep asking. No one has yet shown me an LE document, FBI document, test lab document, body photograph, or court document showing Caylee is dead; 'cause they can't. I understand why, but the fact remains that they can not provide that information, thusly, to everyone but the investigators, she is still alive based on fact.

 

[LinasK]

That is 100% correct!

Until it is though, one can not assume that they exist, as you have no way of knowing unless you are part of the investigation. Therefore, my point still stands -- we don't know until they release it.

From what LE/FBI has released, they do have evidence- for starters, the death band DNA on the hair strand found in Casey's trunk that has to belong to Caylee, the air samples in the trunk, the cadaver dogs hits, and the Chloroform in her trunk, the Chloroform searches on the laptop,and her own mother calling 911 hysterical and reporting a decomp smell in her car! LE didn't even have to release this much of their case to the general public.

I believe LE over a proven liar like Casey Anthony!

 

[DTFulmer]

I see more of a motive for her to hide Caylee and start a new life away from her parents then I do with the idea of her killing her. Casey did not need to kill Caylee to continue doing what she was doing (partying & whatever). She had been doing these things all along, it sounds to me like Caylee went most places with her even to parties. And she was loved and accepted by all Casey's friends.

Truly, that scares me, too. You have a child who, by all accounts, loves her grandparents, and who, by all accounts, could have stayed with them. I believe GA and CA would have raised Caylee as their own. For KC to take her away from that so she could have a new life is almost as bad as killing her intentionally.

 

[elitenls]

Never FORGET ~ Always REMEMBER

QFT. Totally off-topic, but worth quoting again and again.

 

[LaLaw2000]

The evidence is there. LE and the FBI have the evidence in their possession. Baez admits there is evidence. No need to say there is none. It does exist. LE has stated it will show decomposition in the car and will point to Caylee being deceased.

Exactly. Now if there were no evidence, why would Baez file a motion to stop the testing of it? It was a less than brilliant move on his part, of course, but he does admit there is evidence that LE and FBI have been testing.

 

[DTFulmer]

Can you prove she's dead, though, is the question I keep asking. No one has yet shown me an LE document, FBI document, test lab document, body photograph, or court document showing Caylee is dead; 'cause they can't. I understand why, but the fact remains that they can not provide that information, thusly, to everyone but the investigators, she is still alive based on fact.

As I have no evidence to prove otherwise (and neither do you), it is impossible to say that the investigators are not pursuing both avenues. While they may firmly believe she is dead, until they have a body, it is my honest belief that they ARE pursuing both alternatives. I don't think they have to make us privy to their investigation.

With all respect (sincerely), no one has yet shown me an LE document, FBI doc, etc. to show she is alive.

 

[GreenEyes727]

Now HappyChic ... don't be telling "mistruths" or have an "inopportunity". Tee Hee! :crazy: Sorry that is almost my favorite part.

I yelled at my daughter for not unloading the dishes and she said "I had an "inopportunity" to unload them.

I guess that is the hardest part to fathom. I am sure CA and GA realize that KC did all this to keep Caylee away from them. If my daughter was going to such lengths I would probably soft pedal it for a while, hoping to nice it out of her but after a while I could keep it up. Ultimately, I would BE OUT FINDING HER MYSELF!

Okay, okay! I'm going to the casino with my Aunt Margie tomorrow. We are having the $9.99 buffet at The Hilton. Are you happy now!