trial day 31: the defense continues it's case in chief #87

[Plumeria5]

In between flights, can someone give me a quicky synopsis?

Dr. Samuels and a lot of BS.

 

[Observer in AZ]

Did anyone catch Willmott or this clown of an "expert", say GOAL at this mornings testimony. It was when they were arguing what exhibits should be coming in. Before the jury came in. JA's entire testibologny was based on this experts upcoming testimony. They have made a mockery out of the court process and justice. It's appalling.

I totally agree! But you know "our jury" are pretty sharp cookies I'm sure as soon as they started hearing buzz words from him & know Jodi was using them that this is all "Paid Testimony"..

Also I think they'll be just as disgusted about Soldier/Officers used as examples of wtf JA did as same.. NOOOOOOOOOO Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!

Btw wonder if he has a dog ear on the page with Emotional Dysregulation Disorder?

The most commonly used name today is Borderline Personality Disorder - or BPD - as defined in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic & Statistical Manual (DSM-IV-TR).

The term "Borderline" is a historic term coined to describe people who were diagnosed to be on the borderline between a neurotic and psychotic disorder. It is commonly felt that the "Borderline" label is misleading and stigmatizes the disorder. The fifth version of the Diagnostic & Statistical Manual (DSM-V) is scheduled for release in 2010. It is likely that the disorder will be renamed Emotional Regulation Disorder (ERD) or Emotional Dysregulation Disorder (EDD) in the DSM-V.


http://outofthefog.net/Disorders/EDD.html

 

[wenwe4]

He also said he "hand-scored" the test because he didn't have the computer scoring program.

Bet Juan jumps all over that. Watch for it!

He further stated these PTSD tests are not widely used . . . .

Why wouldn't he use something that is widely used with large population of people suffering with issues of PTSD? . . . .

 

[Novice Seeker]

Well, if the dentist was a female with a sex problem, I think this jackass eliminated all hopes of hooking up with her after dealing with his gingivitis issue.

Would explain how he ended up in AZ and why he doesn't do therapy anymore. HINT: It's not bc of the reimbursement fee:waitasec:

 

[Truth Detector]

The Greeks had Poseidon driving a chariot drawn by hippocampi.

So what?

Travis Alexander was savagely butchered and shot with malice aforethought.

The confessed killer is in your midst.

Death-qualified Maricopa jury, it is time to faithfully discharge your sworn duty.

The rest is just so much folderol.

 

[newsjunkie]

We're live!!

. . .and at another sidebar. . .shocking I know!

 

[JusticeJunkie]

We're BACK

 

[wenwe4]

We are back and immediately up at the bench

 

[Madeleine74]

None of what this psychologist does is valid when they are dealing with a lying liar who lies. The underlying assumption in clinical diagnosis is that the person is telling the truth and that the symptoms being seen or described are real. If the person is just a big 'ole liar then the diagnosis is invalid (unless the diagnosis is "Liar Liar Pants on Fyre")

PTSD is post. What JA did the week before the murder (stealing the gun) is not covered under this diagnosis. What she did in getting gas cans, dying her hair and all the prep work to hide the fact that she was in AZ before the murder occurred...not valid.

I've already thought of at least 20 questions JM can ask, but at the same time I think he can dismantle this expert in as little as 3 questions (which would be EPIC to watch).

 

[Kajaa24]

i dont know if i am allowed to copy a link from wildabouttrial? if not, mods please delete - it is in reference to Mr.Richard Samuels
http://www.njconsumeraffairs.gov/action/20000313_35SI00106000.pdf

 

[Mormon Attorney]

This is from Dr. Bruce Perry, a psychiatrist who does a lot of research regarding, and work with, children and trauma. He treated several of the children who were let out of the Branch Davidian compound during the whole thing that happened with the ATF.

I love this guy. He knows so much about trauma and although he works primarily with kids, his knowledge about trauma and memory applies to everyone.

It seems to contradict what Dr. Samuels is saying:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CEIQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mentalhealthconnection.org%2Fpdfs%2Fperry-handout-effects-of-trauma.pdf&ei=xUtCUZS8GOW6yAGlh4HAAw&usg=AFQjCNHPze127mwz4skaKKKsTWZMFdozZg&bvm=bv.43287494,d.aWc

Gitana1, Dr. Bruce Perry is the "Juan" of children's neurologists IMO. Tremendous work for children in trauma. When we first adopted our child who had been through trauma years ago, it was his lecture at a conference that changed everything for me. Excellent resource. I do wish we had someone like him in this case.

 

[Nezumi]

Is the jury supposed to forget that Jodi adamantly denied on the stand a history with a psychologist beyond a visit or two and outright denied having any formal diagnoses?

It's okay. Juan will remind them.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Oh, Geez! Starting out with a sidebar.

 

[LadyEdith]

If this guy diagnosed Jodi with a mood disorder instead of a personality disorder, he should hang his head in shame.

 

[mck16]

my dad was an old time doctor----a GP who made house calls, etc. he bartered for a lot of things. he delivered 5 babies for our dentist, who took care of all of us for free. stuff like that. i don't see how that's a horrible thing to do.

It used to be common for one professional to treat or do things for another professional. Actually called Professional Courtesy. I don't know if that happens much anymore or not..I know my son does it but he practices in a small town. jmo

 

[BeachGirlFromPA]

Let's just pray the jury is doing a big wth? like we are. They have their own experiences to rely on and they will know that what he's saying is not what they have experienced. Common sense, plain and simple. And I'm sure that more than one is hearing what he's saying and trying to imagine TA's reaction the day of the killing. It applies to TA, not JA.

 

[geevee]

This ddofus is missing the point---most animals including we humans--choose the flightmode--particularly if the danger is larger etc...ieif we are the prey.....so on abiologic,survival basis Jodi should have run---I studied this crap

And also, if she displayed the flight mode and ran down the hall to bedroom entrance without Travis catching her, as she testified, then she had already largely outrun the immediate danger, and a turn left to exit the bedroom and down stairs would have brought her to further safety. I don't know why anyone on the DT thinks PTSD-caused lack of memory of is any boon to her defense, she fails the first test of self defense when she turned right and ran into the closet and grabbed a gun when already in a place where she could have removed herself from the danger by taking the stairs.

 

[norest4thewicked]

respectfully snipped and BBM
The day my daughter died was the most traumatic, gut wrenching day of my life... and I remember EVERY. SINGLE. DETAIL. of that day down to what the nurses and doctors were wearing. I had VIVID dreams for months following, detailing every last second of that day.

JMO

(((hugs))) How horrific for you. I'm so sorry....

 

[AZWatcher]

I think the DT's choice and use of this expert is deliberate. They didn't obtain the services of the professionalsyou cite above (or psychiatric specialists, etc.) because they would have gotten answers that would likely help the prosecution, not the defense.

IMO, None if this matters. Sure, your brain can block out the memory of butchering another human being. Changes nothing in my mind regarding premeditation, intent, or consciousness of guilt, All of which have been sufficiently proven.

 

[rose222]

i dont know if i am allowed to copy a link from wildabouttrial? if not, mods please delete - it is in reference to Mr.Richard Samuels
http://www.njconsumeraffairs.gov/action/20000313_35SI00106000.pdf

I hope JM knows this.