trial day 36: the defense continues its case in chief #105

[KBisMe]

Unfortunately seguek9, Donnareit says what I thought I'd read...

I hadn't heard that she was originally supposed to be brought in for mitigation. Interesting. Does anyone know the date or approximate time she switched to defense witness?

 

[MeeBee]

I think she will go as long as she possibly can with ALV - she won't want JM to get the last word before a long weekend. I could see her dragging this out until after the weekend.

Oh I doubt her direct will last that long. I give it 2 or 3 days tops.

 

[BeachGirlFromPA]

I wonder if, at the start of these experts' interviews, Jodi kind of won them over with her Little Miss Muffett persona, and it was only after they were knee deep in her BS it became clear that JA wasn't what she appeared to be. I don't think either one knew what they were getting into, and since they are not supposed to see any of the trial, they would have no idea what JM was like. I think this witness is going to be very surprised. It sounds like her previous trial experience is fluff compared to this one.

See the post directly above yours. She was converted to the DT after she got herself involved as a Mitigation Specialist. Something made her jump ship.... those hearings would be something to watch/read...

 

[oceanblueeyes]

If I were the men on that jury I would be feeling a little uncomfortable with AL. She seems somewhat biased against men. Just because she has dealt with battered women and their batterers doesn't mean Travis was a batterer.

IMO

 

[audreyparker]

The long, drawing out of credentials is really painfully unnecessary. I'm sure the jury could accept the witness without knowing the details of her thesis, her opinion on the difference between a master's an a bachelor's degree, and the purpose behind the groups she ran. It's almost insulting, the amount of detail they go in to.
Didn't Ted Bundy do volunteer work on a hotline?

yes he did. He also used to watch his friend Ann Rule walk to her car so nothing would happen to her!

 

[StephanieHartPI]

i sort of agree. And i don't care who she sleeps with at night. Maybe it is just that she is easier on the ears than the good doctor samuels. I am finding her, so far down to earth and fairly easy to listen to.

I also know i probably will hate her by noon tomorrow.

lolll

 

[Arishia]

Im confused, people have been bashing her for weeks and now there is a freak out about it? I think its scary that so many posters now like her because I think the jury will too and that will give her words more weight....and guess what folks, she is for Jodi all the way! She is not going to flip. I hope to eat these words by the way....

Eta: im not talking about her looks, I dont agree with that.

Lol, well, I'll be right in there slamming her if what she has to say is problematic, but until then, she's just a woman telling her story... and telling it, and telling it, and telling it... but that's Wilmott's doing. So until she fires first, let's keep our powder dry. imo

 

[MrsPC]

has anyone else noticed Arias slightly grinning each time now when the jurors are leaving the courtroom and today how Arias whispered to Wilmott at that time, looking very excited at that moment.

IMO, there's most likely 1 male juror who is making eye contact with Arias and she's thinking this juror is probably on her side.


that scares me...

 

[Pink Potion]

But, speaking of gender: I have every confidence that if the genders here were reversed, the trial would have lasted less than three weeks and "Joel" Arias would already be on death row for the murder of "Tammy" Alexander.

I have thought the same thing..numerous times!!

 

[indycornstalk]

Just my opinion, I wouldn't even cross examine this witness, just like that crazy quack Doctor, Jodi doesn't have PTSD NOR is she a BATTERED WOMAN, therefore even acknowledging them on the stand is giving credence to the issue with Arias, I would IGNORE them all together and let the defense have their moment of insanity and MOVE ON. The Rebuttal case is what needs to be heard, NOT the trash of the Defense, let them get their silly act on and over with and BRING ON THE TRUTH! The Jury needs to hear THE TRUTH of how this REALLY happened and Juan MUST put together the pieces of the Premeditation and NOW the new evidence that has BEEN CONFIRMED that Arias was scheduled to go on that Cancun Trip and Travis REFUSED to take her and wanted to take Mimi instead. That is the MOTIVE and this Rebuttal is what is most important NOT the false lies of these asinine Defense talking heads.

 

[ZsaZsa]

There's a lot of oxymorons in here somewhere- I never heard of someone who claims she was being abused, turn around and stalk her abuser, try everything in her power to force herself back into his life. Usually they are persuaded back into the relationship by the abuser promising IT won't happen again....

 

[mobius99]

I'm curious to find out how much time LaViolette spent with JA and whether she interviewed the family. Anyone know?

 

[G&AMom]

Also I'd like to say that reason I'm worried about her bias is like this..

Being an ex smoker working in a lung cancer ward = bias to smokers
She works with DV victims in Women's shelters = bias against male abusers (or males tend to be the abuser in DV situations)

JMO (please don't yell at me)

I won't yell at you and I hope others won't yelll at me!

If we knew nothing about this case and were betting on who the abuser was, Travis or Jodi, we'd be nuts to go with Jodi. The majority of abusers are men. But we are not betting. This is a case involving two particular, real live people. It doesn't matter what the odds are, it only matters what the evidence in this case is.

If it's true that she's butted heads with JM before, that does sound like she sees Jodi as a victim. That is, to me, a problem. I've read one of her articles, and she definitely downplays the woman-as-abuser angle. Well, that's fine in a paper. But this is not a paper, it's the real world.

My biggest hope here is that JM will be able to show her the contradictions in what Jodi told her and what Travis was really like. It seemed this afternoon that that was exactly what JM was preparing to do with "Dr." Samuels and the text message, but apparently the defense blocked him. I hope one of our legal eagles can explain why.

I'm going to keep an open mind until she starts the actual testimony. If she turns out to be another Samuels, I'm confident JM will take care of her. If she's honest, she'll be an asset to the prosecution.

JMO

 

[snowcat]

IMO this witness is very intelligent, well spoken and certainly qualified to speak on Domestic Violence with all her experience in that area.

I just don't know what she is doing testifying for the defense. IMO calling someone a five year old and throwing a toblerone at someone does not constitute domestic violence.

Just My Opinion...

i don't believe the Toblerone story myself ..but I can certainly see Travis as well as everybody else who has ever met her , accusing Arias of acting like a 5 yr old ( sorry 5 yr olds!) ullhair:

 

[jellybeanz]

http://youtu.be/Y-oIDEfAjSI?t=1h55m30s

 

[meanddblj]

http://alycelaviolette.com/Women-Who-Hit-Their-Male-Partners.htm

she does believe that women abuse men per article listed above......mods hope link is ok to post, if not delete. TIA

 

[Shelby1]

If I were the men on that jury I would be feeling a little uncomfortable with AL. She seems somewhat biased against men. Just because she has dealt with battered women and their batterers doesn't mean Travis was a batterer.

IMO

In all fairness, she said she has worked with battered men, too.

I thought she seemed personable.


I reserve the right to change my mind tomorrow. :floorlaugh:

 

[pufnstuf]

Agree with the above and would add, no one is defending her opinion or even her as a person. They are only pointing out that criticisms should be based upon her testimony. Criticize away, I'm sure I will. But don't be a Neanderthal about it.

Amen.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Lol, well, I'll be right in there slamming her if what she has to say is problematic, but until then, she's just a woman telling her story... and telling it, and telling it, and telling it... but that's Wilmott's doing. So until she fires first, let's keep our powder dry. imo

I don't care about her private life but if she starts going off in left field I will have a problem with her. So far I find her a nice woman but a little boring but that is because Wilmott is dragging every little detail out.

We don't need to know what she has done for every second in the last 34 years imo.

 

[Arishia]

Blah blah blah.
Yadda yadda yadda.

Even if I put aside all the premeditation, I don't know how even this expert can get around these three things straight from Jodi's mouth:

1) when Travis said she sounded like a 12 year old girl having her first 'o'....she giggled and said 'you make me feel so dirty'.....

2) when discussing the pigtails, SHE said 'that was hot.....'

3) at the suggestion of tying her to a tree she said "ohhhhh.....that's so debasing.....I like it......"

Can we fast-forward to the cross exam?

I believe that workaround is called "internalized __________" fill in the blank. Where the person is doing to themselves what the perceived abuser does to them.