trial day 38: the defense continues its case in chief #110

[LambChop]

You guys are all cracking me up tonight.:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh: And laughing is a good thing, only problem I doubt I will ever be able to sleep...

Full Moon.

 

[sammie]

Yes, I worry a lot. I don't worry about the whole jury, but I worry about one or two maybe having pity on her. I try so hard to adopt that confident stance but I can't. I trust KCL's eyes and opinions though. She seems to have a good read on people.

I think about that too, but the thing I keep telling myself is that the other 10 or 11 will be able to sway the 1 or 2 during deliberations.

 

[Allyne Smithe]

According to our legal eagles, it could mean the difference between pre meditation and crime of passion or even self defense.

Proving there was NO knife in the bedroom or bathroom would seal the deal for premeditation.

Legal folks, please correct if this is wrong, but I thought I remembered reading something to that end, by one of our lawyers.

The prosecution already established the braided or twisted fibers found at the scene came from the pillows on the chair next to Travis' bed. Jodi herself brought that up when Detective Flores asked her about it in a phone interview. That interview played in court on Day 2 and JM displayed a photograph of the pillows with the tassels.

Jodi claimed Travis used a long rope to tie her hands 'loosely' to the bed. But JM established in court that Jodi told Dr. Samuels she was bound by her hands and feet, diminishing her credibility. She gave conflicting accounts where the knife was left after TA allegedly used it to cut the rope, at one point implying it was left in the bathroom and at another point mentioning the bedroom. The last time JM pressed her on where the knife was, she replied with a foggy "I don't know." Her testimony about taking the rope with her doesn't help her, because even if there was a long rope, her taking it away and other efforts to clean up the crime scene argue against self-defense, and for premeditation.

The prosecution can't prove a negative, that there wasn't another rope. But that has nothing to do with fully analyzing the fibers left at the scene. They did, and showed photos of the pillows them were from to the jury, along with JA's own voice describing the pillows with the fringe before she was ever charged in the murder. If there was any fiber analysis left undone that should have been done, I've yet to hear about it and welcome Beeshie's remarks.

 

[RR0004]

I had forgotten that Casey pulled this stunt too. Wasn't it near the end of the case too?

Yes, it was. About the same time CM was begging for a psych eval, IIRC.

 

[pferrin]

Ok, so this might be an unpopular post but I've been thinking about this all day (hey, I lost my job and I have nothing better to do). I know that there are some observers, like KCL, who are totally confident in the jury. Does anyone else think "what if?" What if they somehow decide to take pity on JA? We all see the crazy headstand interrogation tape and digging through the trash, singing and laughing, talking about kicking her dog, but the jury doesn't. So what if they drop the ball...do you think they'll see that footage down the road and regret their decision?

If she happens to move to my small town..i am not real worried...cause every woman and man here have guns. She would ride outta town faster than she rode in.

 

[beeshie]

Are they still in business??????? I remember going with my Dad to one and my feet didn't reach to the end of the seat. I thought Prince Charming lived there. lol

Still going strong and still satisfying the late night munchies of thousands of drunk college students throughout the Midwest.

 

[crime cases addict]

OMG Steak and Shake??? I haven't heard that in years...wah wah wah. I want that...my grandma used to take us there. The little chili peppers in those bottles, chili mac, those great skinny fries....wah wah and all I have is my chicken soup for dinner. I thought S and S was just in Illinois???

we have S&S in ky...one just 10 min from me yuuuummm i am starving after reading all these posts they ate open 24/7 too:great::great:

 

[EquallyDivided]

Thank you so much for your insight...glad you are here

I hate crime, obviously - but love law. I am so glad to come out of lurking status. I lurked during Caylee's case.

 

[neesaki]

That's what I thought when she was all "what's this, what's this?" She looked pizzed.

I must have missed that, what brought that on, was it today? TIA

 

[Bada Bing]

Right. And is it just me, or does anyone else think it's telling that on the day Jodi's "sex tape" was first played - the one most embarrassing day of the trial - that Jodi's father, little brother and little sister were in the gallery to observe ? I just am not convinced that they were there to "support" Jodi. It was more like they were there to humiliate her.:facepalm:

Who knows the carp she put all of them through. The bad sheep.
I did read the younger sister Angela posted the follwoing on her facebook:
She didn't tell anyone she was involved with a monster.

 

[kayice]

Unfortunately, they probably won't bother because it muddies up more important evidence...But it's funny to know that she most likely took them herself.

Now THAT should be the definition of *advertiser censored*!

moo

Yeah, but that one day in court--I swear Jodi made Nurmi get Wilma's attention just to make sure everyone knew those were pictures were not from a timer! Makes me think even more, they were.

 

[gngr~snap]

And for the record, Whataburger A-1 Thick and Hearty burger is the best!

Whataburger generously butters and toasts their buns, IMO much better than Sonic!!

Born, raised and lived in Texas for 36 years - FT. Worth - and now in Atlanta.

:laughcry: Don't blame the messenger

And reading about what you went through (not gaining weight etc.) screams celiac disease, I'm glad you were finally diagnosed! :hug:

Matter of fact it was the "breakout" illness" in retrospect!

A year at college and guess what I ate???
Raman noodles and Kraft mac n cheese!
for 9 months! that was about it.
pb & j sandwiches...

Most people gain the freshman 15.
I lost the freshman 20!

I wasn't blaming you... ya know that right?

Celiac is serious. My mom went undiagnosed and died from it.
Colon cancer that metastasized to her breast!

That cancer was aggressive!!! It went from a marble to an egg in
1 week! and the tumor had tentacles!!!

shiver! creeps me out still!
I was 41 when I was diagnosed.
9 years after her death!


OK sorry guys back on topic!

Does anyone think they will really hold court tomorrow?

 

[Pink Panther]

I've about given up on trying to figure it out, but I know what you mean. Nothing seems right about any of the photos that day.

What I do know is that JA took bits and pieces of the truth and mixed it with a bunch of lies to create her defense.

I know what you mean...I'm down to thinking that she photographed older pics onto his camera! It makes more sense to me than what she's telling.


moo

 

[seguek9]

Ok, so this might be an unpopular post but I've been thinking about this all day (hey, I lost my job and I have nothing better to do). I know that there are some observers, like KCL, who are totally confident in the jury. Does anyone else think "what if?" What if they somehow decide to take pity on JA? We all see the crazy headstand interrogation tape and digging through the trash, singing and laughing, talking about kicking her dog, but the jury doesn't. So what if they drop the ball...do you think they'll see that footage down the road and regret their decision?

Yes.
I also think the masses would go even more apesheet crazy than they (we) did over the CA verdict. Moo.

 

[Sweetiemom]

In case you missed it elsewhere, my word for the day is:

fauxgraine

You're welcome. :great:

One thing we have gotten from this trial is a whole new vocabulary. :floorlaugh:

 

[ElleElle]

It is a good thing they cancelled court today because we don't want a mistrial. Jodi has a headache, probably just PMS.

 

[Dana]

OMG Steak and Shake??? I haven't heard that in years...wah wah wah. I want that...my grandma used to take us there. The little chili peppers in those bottles, chili mac, those great skinny fries....wah wah and all I have is my chicken soup for dinner. I thought S and S was just in Illinois???

We have Steak n Shake here in Missouri :great:

 

[Karmady]

Are they still in business??????? I remember going with my Dad to one and my feet didn't reach to the end of the seat. I thought Prince Charming lived there. lol

They are and supply frozen product to grocery stores even here in the desert, where the tradition of 4 a.m. ratburgers is a mystery to the locals

 

[atthelake]

See now, I would have crumbled in front of Flores. His voice is too sexy for my crime, too sexy for my crime, too sexy to rhyme.

Sorry, that deserves a big round of boos. But I do think his voice is sexy.

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[manzana]

Why does HLN keep repeating the sex tape especially the part where Travis talks about working the booty and Jodi repeats you sure do know how to lick the booty? That is is all they seem to play, the tossing salad part!