trial day 38: the defense continues its case in chief #111

[lil_buddy]

Letter to Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office re. discrimination against men by the County Domestic Violence Council.

ALV is named in this complaint.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I'll give it to Jodi's lawyer today, she was pretty successful rehabbing Samuels on the book thing...through this witness.

 

[perfectvirgo]

But this judge will allow it with bells on.

(re ALV's tainted, secondhand testimony)

Sadly I have finally come round to believing the court is pandering to the defendant too much. This is symptomatic of society as a whole where respect for the victim and their rights has become secondary.

'It only takes one' and if that happens the whole DT and their minions will have to live with the additional misery they place on TA's family.

 

[AnArmyWife_98]

Another question...let's say, hypothetically *ahem* someone on a certain website that supports JA sent a supportive email to Dr. Samuels. He replied. Even though no specific info was given about the case from Dr.Samuels, isn't that wrong? Communicating with a witness that could be re-called at some point? ESPECIALLY since no one on the witness list(s) should be watching/listening/hearing about the trial?

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Exactly, just how many of us have been through it????? I know I have...numerous times...whose fault was it? MINE for letting it happen!

The word "abuse" has been thrown around much too liberally without qualifying it. I usually take it to mean physical violence, but at the least emotional abuse. Not being monogamous with someone is not something I would call abuse. We don't even know it the Hugheses used the word "abuse," that's just what ALV said, but even if they did, we don't know in what context they meant it. Mormonism has stricter rules about sex and relations and "abuse" to them may not be abuse to someone else. And if they meant he cheated on women, that's just a normal hazard of dating.

 

[scmom]

I'm over HLN.

 

[Liebchenmutti]

And lets say he was using her.

Not that I want to get into my personal life but I dated more than one scoundrel in my life.. Does this mean I can find them and slit their throats now? NO...

What this has to do with the price of pie is beyond me.

I don't care if he led her on, dated behind her back, Whatever, She had no right to slice him open.

What I'd like to know is can I murder men from my past RETROACTIVELY? I wasn't aware of this "he needed killing" thing that Nurmi & co are peddling.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

So, do I understand this correctly? Jean C heard that DD's "juror" posed with JM for a picture and it was misinterpreted as one of the real jurors? I've seen the video on HLN and I heard Jean C say that it may not be a good thing for him to give autographs and take pictures.
That's her opinion and that's okay. Everyone has one.
So how in the world did she end up on the stand? I am so confused.
:banghead:

No - JC also stated that she has seen a juror come out the front door at times, not at the same time JM gave autograph - but her CONCERN (how nice of her) was that the jurors might see this "behavior"

 

[gitana1]

so the Hughes thought TA was abusive to women?

I think if that was true the defense would have questioned them about that already.

 

[JSR]

This is totally hearsay even if she's paraphrasing

I know. The DT is getting away with a lot.

 

[lil_buddy]

Why, the person who ate the last of your Haagen Dazs, naturally. JK

:sharpening knife:

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I hope the jury remembers all those cherry picked tapes and texts the defense has tired to pull, and it's backfired on them and the defense got to see, hear them. I'm sure they'll want Juan will bring it all out.

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discourse - extended verbal expression in speech or writing
2. context - the set of facts or circumstances that surround a situation or event; "the historical context"
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conditions - the prevailing context that influences the performance or the outcome of a process; "there were wide variations in the conditions of observation"

 

[dog.gone.cute]

So is someone going to bring up in court that JA passed her mom a letter via the mitigation specialist?

:rocker: Exactly !

There is clearly a DOUBLE STANDARD in that courtroom, and it is NOT in favor of the prosecution !

:moo:

 

[spcagrl]

Joey Jackson has been extremely pro-prosecution throughout this trial and many many members have praised him for his comments on-air regarding it.

Just sayin.....

Oh, I totally agree, and I was lovin him for it. That's why it was like being in some alternate reality when he was supporting that Travis was a sexual deviant crap last night. That's the whole thing these days, the media cannot just give you the news, there is always a slant on it. And when someone like Joey does this kind of an about face for ratings.......I turn the dial. And won't return.

 

[Southern_Meadow]

H wasn't lying to her. He made it clear it that was for sex in the beginning. Unfortunately, his nosy "friends" have just set Jodi free thanks to this stupid email where they threw around loaded words like "abusive" all because Travis wanted to play the field. Idiots. Lost the case because they stuck their noses where it didn't belong.

Once again, Jodi is not going to be set free. I don't know why you continue to say this. Are you an attorney? If she had shot him once and left, I could maybe see that happening, but she stabbed him 29 times, slit his throat and for good measure, shot him in the head after he was dead. Also, let's not forget the many, many signs that lead strait to premeditation. Juan still has a rebuttal case to put on and also gets the last and final word before the judge gives instructions.

 

[Colt46]

Funny how this email from Sky Hughes never turned up during 18 days of direct examination! I am disgusted with this reptillian DT and ALV. AlV spend the first 3 days reeling the jurors in with her tutorial on DV...carefully avoiding any reference to Travis. She seemed to neutralize both sides. It's very clear, after today's brutal attack on Travis, that JA's 'migraine' was a ploy so that the jury could spend the next 5 days mulling over AVL's testa-baloney.

The bottom line: If JA found Travis to be not to her liking...rough around the edges....abusive....all she had to do was walk away!!! There was NO relationship other than a brief 5 months. Travis never promised JA a rose garden; - no proposal of marriage...nothing. She played the 'sex card' as long as she could get away with it. When Travis finally told her it was over - she drove 1000 miles to murder him.
Explain that one - ALV!

 

[Nezumi]

And lets say he was using her.

Not that I want to get into my personal life but I dated more than one scoundrel in my life.. Does this mean I can find them and slit their throats now? NO...

What this has to do with the price of pie is beyond me.

I don't care if he led her on, dated behind her back, Whatever, She had no right to slice him open.

Exactly Scarlett! I had horrible taste in men in my 20's. If being a crappy boyfriend constitutes justifiable cause for homicide, I'd have a string of bodies in my wake a mile long.

 

[NotMyselfNEMore]

Whoa - based on one incomplete email exchange between Travis and the Hughes' about what Jodi TOLD Travis the Hughes' said to her - ALV can summarize that the Hughes' felt Travis was abusive to her, and to previous women? Is it from both of the Hughes writing as one? Is it the only exchange these people who cared for Travis very much had?
And most importantly, it's based on what Jodi told Travis, and an incomplete exchange between Travis and his friends.
It sounds based on what ALV read aloud, as if Travis could have been irked that they had any opinion about who he dated, and that they might have been concerned - because he brought her to their house, and had brought women before her.
No one can say what Travi meant with certainty because he can no longer speak, and the Hughes' are very much alive.
How is this person qualified to comment on what these people living or deceased think?
Maybe they can have Jean Casares on next, to give her opionion.
JM will probably have to call one or both of the Hughes' for rebuttal, if he wasn't going to already - I hope he does so - soon.

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

Let me clear this up before false information is regarded as fact. The hughes sent this email AFTER the defense team lied an said that they had absolute proof that the letters were real REGARDING travis being a pedo. The letter in fact went I knew he had issues but.... Chris hughes testified that NURMI and co..lied to sky about the authenticity of the letters. They only sent the emails after it was told to them that travis wrote the letters which were proven to be fraudulent. Travis was DEAD once these emails were in question. This was AFTER jodi tried to get a her fraud letters in.

OK Tinkabella,
Since the defense opened the door to this email--can the forged emails of Travis being a pedophile now come into play?

 

[JustJudy]

No kidding! I had a lot of experiences exactly like that because as a 20-something, both parties are immature! I had my heart broken a few times.

Who knew I could have SLAUGHTERED these guys for doing that to me?!

Yep totally agree....never knew I coulda offed those guys who...wait...uh oh ...Guess I deserved slaughtering too, back in the day, if breaking a guy's heart, moving on, & saying hateful things deserves the death penalty :~{