trial day 41: the defense continues its case in chief #122

[livelife]

"I don't know the ages of the dwarfs... I'm sorry but I dont" LOL .... Soooooo hilarious

 

[dog.gone.cute]

OMG ... the group with the "behavior problems" in the courtroom should have been THROWN OUT for their outbusts and laughing !

OMG ... NO respect ... NO manners ...

I am watching the part where ALV gets SNARKY with Mr. Martinez ...

:great: Mr. Martinez is just BRILLIANT !

:seeya:

 

[Beccaboo]

In thread #121 katydid23 said:


Jodi loses consciousness more often than people on soap operas (and they lose consciousness VERY easily).

:floorlaugh: I said the same thing when Jodi ws on the stand. she has more drama in her life than General Hospital has in 50 years

 

[Truth Detector]

I dunno about you guys... but I am ROYALLY SCREWED if my text messages and emails ever go on trial. :jail: Will someone sneak me some anti-fungal cream when I go to the big house? TIA

All you need are cigarettes.

You can buy anything in the hoosegow with enough smokes.

 

[Love Never Fails]

No. I didn't. But I have heard her testimony. And I have been outraged and frustrated by it. Granted, I didn't witness the flow, so maybe I'm seeing things out of context but despite her ridiculous testimony, I don't think she comes across as a dishonest, paid liar or unlikeable and it's a mistake for attorneys to act too aggressively with likeable witnesses.

She is not and has not been likeable. Unless you think a paid
liar, who trashes a vistim is likeable.

 

[AngelWings444]

Hey...wait a minute! Somebody was going to yell at me when Mr. Martinez got up! I come home and he's on HLN, grilling AVL. Loving it!!! Can't wait to catch up..liking what I am hearing so far. :great:

 

[travelgal]

Whats up with nancy grace? Right in middle of Juan's cross her show comes on now we're back on ALV!!! Is this a rerun?

moo NG is too important to share time with the trial. She shows the trial for 1 minute before DD Show.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

i could be totally wrong because I'm no lawyer and am not legally savvy, and maybe it is really awesome strategy that I cannot see, but I kinda feel like the Snow White thing was overplayed.

It is a great comparison. I think it was brilliant.

IMO

 

[Wishbone]

i kinda see though why the witnesses get all pissed, the way juan asks questions that would require a yes or no would be damaging, so unless a witness elaborates, their answers will be taken in a negative way. i in no way think this is unfair or anything, especially seeing the stunts the defense team has pulled. but i do understand why they get pissed off. it's not 100% of the time, sometimes they are being evasive and untruthful.

it's like saying 'i ate the whole cake because i was hungry', and juan would say 'did you eat the whole cake?' and you would answer yes, but that would make you look like a pig lol.

Best post I've seen all day.

 

[seguek9]

Oh boy. I have to also disagree with the majority. I just started watching cross. I dislike what Laviolette did during direct. I think she lacked credibility and came at the case from a position of deep bias. But I don't think she gave a bought opinion like Samuels did.

I think this lady actually believes what she testified to.

And even though her testimony was frustrating and felt cruel at times, I don't think she is hated like Samuels was. I think her opinion lacked credibility and I disliked it. But I Think she herself is like able and Juan Martinez is making a mistake by yelling at her and acting frustrated.

I disagree about Juan making a mistake. And about her being likable....BUT I adore you and your intelligent posts and spot-on insights. I agree that ALV actually believes what she is saying. I just think its not at all relevent to this case in particular.

Moo. And much love to Gitana!

 

[Love Never Fails]

Um, not good.

https://twitter.com/WildAboutTrial/status/319961029398388738/photo/1

WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1h
One of the media getting a statement from juror 5. #jodiarias pic.twitter.com/k3T6sxACq7

Maybe she just said No Comment.

 

[crime cases addict]

We are being abused and held captive by HLN to be able to see the rst of the trial

 

[ShadyLady]

I see ALV being very sarcastic. She does not want to be cornered into admitting her bias.

Can't wait for the titles of the books...did she send Jodi cards, too. I wonder if Samuels and ALV are associates?

 

[gngr~snap]

Ha Jodi is a "Beauty School Dropout" lol
on Dr Drew... she gets an "F" for her hair do!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TOxhzAm7fY"]beauty school drop out grease - YouTube[/ame]

 

[panthera]

"I don't know the ages of the dwarfs... I'm sorry but I dont" LOL .... Soooooo hilarious

Juan is hilarious.

:silly:

 

[seguek9]

It is a great comparison. I think it was brilliant.

IMO

And its based on actual ALV writings!!!

 

[pferrin]

I hope Disney goes after her !She also wrote about it in her book and I do not remember that little trademark thingy by the name.

Oh I would count on that. I worked for Disney for years. They
Go after everyone. I mean everyone.

 

[Wishbone]

Mark on DD just said JM got lost in the weeds today and he needs to carefully craft his questions and be careful of just what he asks.....Go Mark, love that guy.

 

[BritsKate]

We can discuss her book in such a way as it is relevant to her testimony...we just can't go out of our way to ruin the woman, like leaving nasty reviews of a book we've never read. And to be fair to her co-author, Ola Barnett, who isn't testifying for the defense - the book is indeed a collaborative effort.

I haven't read it but I did read the Snow White portion (page 71). (Personally I prefer Patricia Evans, Beverly Engel, Lundy Bancroft, and Gavin de Becker but that's rather another topic.)

Anyway, her basic premise is that abuse victims are naive, gullible, compassionate, sweet, passive and 'exceedingly helpless' - like Snow White - but they are compelled when leaving, or attempting to leave, abusive situations to become the Wicked Witch. Further, her compassion and empathy disempower her. She's requested to change into a character she's never liked. The witch is described as controlling, assertive, calculating and strong, et al.

As a survivor I personally feel this is incredibly simplistic and really grossly inadequate. In fact, its kind of written from the perspective of someone who knows 'about' abuse but hasn't actually lived it. I don't know what her history is. When leaving, a victim does have to become assertive but where this is a scary and daunting perspective, I don't believe its akin to becoming a calculating witch for survivors. It's terrifying because we're on our own after being told for too long we'd never survive it.

And it kind of altogether ignores the psychological abuse and manipulation abusers utilize specifically to prey on a victim's compassion and empathy while simultaneously instilling doubt they could survive on their own - all solely to keep them in the relationship. I just can't find how her version is even remotely relative to intimate partner violence or what path she took to get to her conclusion.

 

[Southern_Meadow]

With all respect.

How can you find her likeable, yet be outraged at her ridiculous testimony?

I was wondering that myself. :waitasec:

As I said earlier, she was no shrinking violet up there. She was dishing it out the same way Juan was giving it. I also think the way she says, "Mr. Martinez" is condescending, rude and shows she has a huge chip on her shoulder when it comes to him.... and probably men in general.