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JA working in 10 different restaurants . .. over 15 years . . . up to age 17 she worked for her Father . . . over time of 15 years she worked 10 places do you know this or not? . . .
she worked in 10 since age 17 or 18 until arrested
mentioned suicide to her Mother - was after 6/4
data point after the traumatic event
yes because pattern of event - but personality is stable
don't you need to make sure pattern throughout person's life . . when a trauma don't want to make sure there is pattern before trauma
yes
she was single for 14 months before she began dating Brewer
not information I received
from Ms. Arias?
I can reference my notes if you like
sure if you have them with you
right here
consistent with what she just said - don't know the exact dates . . I can tell you what she told me . . .I spent 12 hours with her . . wasn't a point of confusion for me . . . my notes were very clear
you somehow think she left MM and went straight to DB
yes based on my notes and what information she gave me
she moved to Mesa . . . but she moved away from TA in 2008 - away to a whole other state . . she tried to move on - she attempted to meet other people on LDS linkup
didn't know the website but knew she was trying to date others and moving away from TA
TA called her names . . started in Jan 2007 - called her a *advertiser censored* . then he indicated it was a joke - just kidding -per JA . . . read about this in emails from Hughes to TA and way he was treating JA. there is no question TA called her names like *advertiser censored*, *advertiser censored*, doesn't make it true . . .you would not think it is true . . . if he calls a name just what he called her . . . that is true he called her that
abuse her
misuse of something so yes it was a misuse of words - inappropriate
escalating name calling - not a pattern of verbal abuse . . .
despite fact you are not a DV expert . . . .I do not have a license in DV . . . there is no license in DV . . . I am licensed clinical psychologist . . my definition expert = licensure
do you think you are an expert in DV . . . . I have a lot of experience in DV . .
criteria basing on license in DV that doesn't exist . . . somehow magical license appears . .. .based upon criteria you could be an expert? based upon the criteria that is correct
on 1/24/08 - journal entry #511 - 2 days after TA threw her down and broke her finger
objection
in Jan 2008 - don't know specific date . . . she writes nothing noteworthy to report in her journal . .. consider it a datapoint
also on same day she writes she cannot marry TA . . . we all have head problems but certain things never sit right with her.
MMPI scored it created a report - reviewed it and determined to be accurate - exhibit #631 - is that the report you received - I am assuming this is the one I gave you . . it is . . accurate and look complete to you? yes . . results
move to enter this evidence #631
no objections
she worked in 10 since age 17 or 18 until arrested
mentioned suicide to her Mother - was after 6/4
data point after the traumatic event
yes because pattern of event - but personality is stable
don't you need to make sure pattern throughout person's life . . when a trauma don't want to make sure there is pattern before trauma
yes
she was single for 14 months before she began dating Brewer
not information I received
from Ms. Arias?
I can reference my notes if you like
sure if you have them with you
right here
consistent with what she just said - don't know the exact dates . . I can tell you what she told me . . .I spent 12 hours with her . . wasn't a point of confusion for me . . . my notes were very clear
you somehow think she left MM and went straight to DB
yes based on my notes and what information she gave me
she moved to Mesa . . . but she moved away from TA in 2008 - away to a whole other state . . she tried to move on - she attempted to meet other people on LDS linkup
didn't know the website but knew she was trying to date others and moving away from TA
TA called her names . . started in Jan 2007 - called her a *advertiser censored* . then he indicated it was a joke - just kidding -per JA . . . read about this in emails from Hughes to TA and way he was treating JA. there is no question TA called her names like *advertiser censored*, *advertiser censored*, doesn't make it true . . .you would not think it is true . . . if he calls a name just what he called her . . . that is true he called her that
abuse her
misuse of something so yes it was a misuse of words - inappropriate
escalating name calling - not a pattern of verbal abuse . . .
despite fact you are not a DV expert . . . .I do not have a license in DV . . . there is no license in DV . . . I am licensed clinical psychologist . . my definition expert = licensure
do you think you are an expert in DV . . . . I have a lot of experience in DV . .
criteria basing on license in DV that doesn't exist . . . somehow magical license appears . .. .based upon criteria you could be an expert? based upon the criteria that is correct
on 1/24/08 - journal entry #511 - 2 days after TA threw her down and broke her finger
objection
in Jan 2008 - don't know specific date . . . she writes nothing noteworthy to report in her journal . .. consider it a datapoint
also on same day she writes she cannot marry TA . . . we all have head problems but certain things never sit right with her.
MMPI scored it created a report - reviewed it and determined to be accurate - exhibit #631 - is that the report you received - I am assuming this is the one I gave you . . it is . . accurate and look complete to you? yes . . results
move to enter this evidence #631
no objections
