trial day 51: REBUTTAL; #158

[Nosey Parker]

What made it worse for me was the activities of Jodi and her "lawyer". They giggled and smiled through that part of the testimony and I thought that was so......... unprofessional and childish. :stormingmad:

... and even worse, they appeared to be MOCKING Deanna.

 

[ElleElle]

I think that since Jodi was back in Yreka, she did not want to pay Travis for the broken BMW anymore. But, yes I bet that was her excuse to stop in Mesa. It was for money.

I feel that Jodi wrote the 25th of May on the check..but that it was really written closer to June 4th if not June 4th. She just wanted it to look like she wrote it earlier. My guess is that she used it as a reason to go to Mesa and tell Travis she had a check for him. I am guessing she never intended for that check to be cashed.

 

[Lbodine]

I feel that Jodi wrote the 25th of May on the check..but that it was really written closer to June 4th if not June 4th. She just wanted it to look like she wrote it earlier. My guess is that she used it as a reason to go to Mesa and tell Travis she had a check for him. I am guessing she never intended for that check to be cashed.

I agree that she didn't expect to see it cashed. I recall her saying that he paid her $200 to clean the house, so guess he pre-paid on a cleaning and then she was fired. Perfect excuse to come over. I hope this jury gets it...sometimes I think watching the commentary on TV makes such a difference since we know more than the jury does.

 

[deedee21]

Thanks - great info on there. Although I was very unhappy to read this:

"Oh crap, remember all the speculation we’ve done about why Jodi was so freaking happy at the end of the day? Annie posted the answer in yesterday’s comments. I bet she found out the manslaughter lesser was going to be allowed into the jury charge. That would certainly do it!"

Was that decision made already? I dont believe the jury would give her manslaughter.

 

[raisincharlie]

I'm not sure what it is, but I think that we are going to find out very soon exactly what made Travis so very angry with Jodi. She did something that made Travis :furious:, and I believe that whatever it was became the catalyst for everything that happened afterwards. Travis talks about Jodi having hurt him more than anyone else had ever done and told her that she was evil. Something had to have set him off enough to say such things because it was not in his nature to belittle or berate others. :moo:

I hope you are correct in that we will find out what it is that Jodi did to get Travis as angry as he appeared to be. I suspect whatever it was, it will demonstrate clearly the motive for her actions. I am hoping the State knows what that was and has found a way to present it without the judge over-riding the evidence on behalf of the defendant. There seems to be a piece of the puzzle missing without this specific aspect.

 

[laniefi]

Long time lurker, first time poster. First, I want to say "thank you" to all who actively participate on this board! I don't really have anyone in my life following (okay, obsessing over) the trial with me, so it's been nice to come here to affirm my thoughts/confusion/frustration! For me, I try to use empathy in any of the cases I follow; asking the "whys" and "hows" and what-not. I think it's natural for humans to try to use their own understanding of life, and their own experiences, to attempt to comprehend how something so sordid can even happen. I think this is why I'm so drawn to this case. Travis could be my friend, my brother, my co-worker. He's obviously a great guy who made a detrimental decision on who to date. I can relate to him on many levels. It just tears my heart to pieces to see his family in the court room.

The more I see of Jodi, the more her "crazy" comes to light. I mean, of course we've known there's something wrong, but the mumbling, the scribbling, the giggling, the smirking...is it me or is getting worse?? Perhaps the length of the trial, while frustrating (especially hearing KN talking about sex ad nauseum), is its own blessing in disguise. Maybe the jury is seeing her "losing it" and revealing her true colors; able to take DM's testimony, apply it, and think "oh okay, now I get it. 2 and 2..." Her weird reactions are just so inappropriate and across-the-board socially unacceptable. You're life is on the line, and you can't even look at the witness (Ms. Reid)???

I know the usual fear is trials lasting this long have the jury sympathizing with the defendant and less likely to recommend DP, but I really think it is the opposite for this jury. Or at least I hope. lease:

At any rate, I'm sure I haven't said anything enlightening, as you all are on top of it! But I appreciate the opportunity to just vent for a moment :tyou: I saw several requests for guests to register, so I did! I look forward to continuing to read all of your insight and profound revelations. Justice for Travis!

:wagon:

Welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Whack A Mole]

Goooood morning peeps!!

After seeing who is on Juan's rebuttal list, I don't see anyone to further the magazine messages. PLEASE don't tell me Juan is going to leave that hanging. That has bugged me ever since he brought it up. I just don't think I can go on with the rest of my life without knowing.
NO, that is not suicidal ideation. lol

Does anyone have a copy of the rebuttal list? Help! I must read.... :floorlaugh:
If you've got it, could you post the link for a old broad who probably slept through it? Thanks!:seeya:

 

[Nosey Parker]

Long time lurker, first time poster. First, I want to say "thank you" to all who actively participate on this board! I don't really have anyone in my life following (okay, obsessing over) the trial with me, so it's been nice to come here to affirm my thoughts/confusion/frustration! For me, I try to use empathy in any of the cases I follow; asking the "whys" and "hows" and what-not. I think it's natural for humans to try to use their own understanding of life, and their own experiences, to attempt to comprehend how something so sordid can even happen. I think this is why I'm so drawn to this case. Travis could be my friend, my brother, my co-worker. He's obviously a great guy who made a detrimental decision on who to date. I can relate to him on many levels. It just tears my heart to pieces to see his family in the court room.

The more I see of Jodi, the more her "crazy" comes to light. I mean, of course we've known there's something wrong, but the mumbling, the scribbling, the giggling, the smirking...is it me or is getting worse?? Perhaps the length of the trial, while frustrating (especially hearing KN talking about sex ad nauseum), is its own blessing in disguise. Maybe the jury is seeing her "losing it" and revealing her true colors; able to take DM's testimony, apply it, and think "oh okay, now I get it. 2 and 2..." Her weird reactions are just so inappropriate and across-the-board socially unacceptable. You're life is on the line, and you can't even look at the witness (Ms. Reid)???

I know the usual fear is trials lasting this long have the jury sympathizing with the defendant and less likely to recommend DP, but I really think it is the opposite for this jury. Or at least I hope. lease:

At any rate, I'm sure I haven't said anything enlightening, as you all are on top of it! But I appreciate the opportunity to just vent for a moment :tyou: I saw several requests for guests to register, so I did! I look forward to continuing to read all of your insight and profound revelations. Justice for Travis!

:Welcome1: and make sure you join in!

 

[Sleuth5]

I hope you are correct in that we will find out what it is that Jodi did to get Travis as angry as he appeared to be. I suspect whatever it was, it will demonstrate clearly the motive for her actions. I am hoping the State knows what that was and has found a way to present it without the judge over-riding the evidence on behalf of the defendant. There seems to be a piece of the puzzle missing without this specific aspect.

I hope so too, but I can't imagine why JA would not have presented it in his CIC if he had that information.

 

[DebinGA]

I'm not sure what it is, but I think that we are going to find out very soon exactly what made Travis so very angry with Jodi. She did something that made Travis :furious:, and I believe that whatever it was became the catalyst for everything that happened afterwards. Travis talks about Jodi having hurt him more than anyone else had ever done and told her that she was evil. Something had to have set him off enough to say such things because it was not in his nature to belittle or berate others. :moo:

Weren't we led to believe via ALV "it" originated with someone supposedly approaching Jodi at work in Yreka and telling her a story about TA, which Jodi lied about to TA? Something inconsequential that supposedly prompted his May 26 tirade? Looking forward to JM clearing that up for the jury. Jodi did something terrible to TA that elicited that response.

 

[momtective]

Quote:
So was thinking again about Jodi dragging Travis back to the shower.

I still can't fathom how she physically did this? Part of me thinks there was a 3rd party involved. What do you guys think?




I am 5'1", weight 115, my DH is 5'11" weights 190lbs....our tiled hall is 11'7"...I convince him to let me see if I could pull him naked down the hall...he watches the trial with me so he knew what I was doing....and agreed...BLESS HIS HEART!! :floorlaugh: I did it and it was difficult...his butt/back/thighs/heels were scrapped. And his head knocked on the tile. :scared: I pulled him by grabbing is wrists, his arms were extended over his head...it was kind of like a heave ho motion, over and over. We didn't have any water or blood to help with the movement. No 3rd party needed. And if there had been a 3rd party JA would have given them up a long time ago. SHE DID THIS ALONE!! :moo:

What a great sport your DH is! The visual alone made me :giggle:

 

[~Lyric~]

Chris Hughes has the video posted on his You Tube channel. If you search for his account it's under C. S. Hughes - I believe it's the last video he posted.


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Thank you, I found it and it's much better!

 

[Davia18]

Long time lurker, first time poster. First, I want to say "thank you" to all who actively participate on this board! I don't really have anyone in my life following (okay, obsessing over) the trial with me, so it's been nice to come here to affirm my thoughts/confusion/frustration! For me, I try to use empathy in any of the cases I follow; asking the "whys" and "hows" and what-not. I think it's natural for humans to try to use their own understanding of life, and their own experiences, to attempt to comprehend how something so sordid can even happen. I think this is why I'm so drawn to this case. Travis could be my friend, my brother, my co-worker. He's obviously a great guy who made a detrimental decision on who to date. I can relate to him on many levels. It just tears my heart to pieces to see his family in the court room.

The more I see of Jodi, the more her "crazy" comes to light. I mean, of course we've known there's something wrong, but the mumbling, the scribbling, the giggling, the smirking...is it me or is getting worse?? Perhaps the length of the trial, while frustrating (especially hearing KN talking about sex ad nauseum), is its own blessing in disguise. Maybe the jury is seeing her "losing it" and revealing her true colors; able to take DM's testimony, apply it, and think "oh okay, now I get it. 2 and 2..." Her weird reactions are just so inappropriate and across-the-board socially unacceptable. You're life is on the line, and you can't even look at the witness (Ms. Reid)???

I know the usual fear is trials lasting this long have the jury sympathizing with the defendant and less likely to recommend DP, but I really think it is the opposite for this jury. Or at least I hope. lease:At any rate, I'm sure I haven't said anything enlightening, as you all are on top of it! But I appreciate the opportunity to just vent for a moment :tyou: I saw several requests for guests to register, so I did! I look forward to continuing to read all of your insight and profound revelations. Justice for Travis!

:welcome6::balloons:

BBM : I sure hope so too lease:

 

[Boodles]

Shes selective. No fog.

aka "fogfree"

 

[Whack A Mole]

Long time lurker, first time poster. First, I want to say "thank you" to all who actively participate on this board! I don't really have anyone in my life following (okay, obsessing over) the trial with me, so it's been nice to come here to affirm my thoughts/confusion/frustration! For me, I try to use empathy in any of the cases I follow; asking the "whys" and "hows" and what-not. I think it's natural for humans to try to use their own understanding of life, and their own experiences, to attempt to comprehend how something so sordid can even happen. I think this is why I'm so drawn to this case. Travis could be my friend, my brother, my co-worker. He's obviously a great guy who made a detrimental decision on who to date. I can relate to him on many levels. It just tears my heart to pieces to see his family in the court room.

The more I see of Jodi, the more her "crazy" comes to light. I mean, of course we've known there's something wrong, but the mumbling, the scribbling, the giggling, the smirking...is it me or is getting worse?? Perhaps the length of the trial, while frustrating (especially hearing KN talking about sex ad nauseum), is its own blessing in disguise. Maybe the jury is seeing her "losing it" and revealing her true colors; able to take DM's testimony, apply it, and think "oh okay, now I get it. 2 and 2..." Her weird reactions are just so inappropriate and across-the-board socially unacceptable. You're life is on the line, and you can't even look at the witness (Ms. Reid)???

I know the usual fear is trials lasting this long have the jury sympathizing with the defendant and less likely to recommend DP, but I really think it is the opposite for this jury. Or at least I hope. lease:

At any rate, I'm sure I haven't said anything enlightening, as you all are on top of it! But I appreciate the opportunity to just vent for a moment :tyou: I saw several requests for guests to register, so I did! I look forward to continuing to read all of your insight and profound revelations. Justice for Travis!

Welcome! I've been a member since 2007 but have been a lurker. Couldn't stand it anymore..... I'm so glad I joined too. Great info, funny folks here too. It's helped make my compulsion livable..

 

[Nezumi]

Was that decision made already? I dont believe the jury would give her manslaughter.

I don't believe she will get manslaughter either...but I do believe the DT will win this motion and they'll be able to consider it.

 

[franquerolane]

LMAO! Much smarter people than Jodi fall back into (mis) pronouncing some words as they heard them growing up (birFday, anyone?). Regionalisms come into play as well. "Real-A-tor" bugs the heck out of me--especially when it comes out of the mouth of a real estate agent! Only one "a" in realtor.

My favorite is nuke-ul-er for nuclear, especially coming from our previous President of the United States.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Does anyone have a copy of the rebuttal list? Help! I must read.... :floorlaugh:
If you've got it, could you post the link for a old broad who probably slept through it? Thanks!:seeya:

Here ya go:

http://tamaratattles.com/2013/04/24...y-come-on-everybody-do-a-loco-motion-with-mi/

 

[Lilly12]

JMHO, I think Jodi was perfectly capable of dragging Travis by herself. I know many of you don't like the show HLN After Dark, but on one of their episodes they had a female the same size as Jodi drag a dummy that was a similar weight to Travis and she was able to do it. If you consider that during this heinous killing, Jodi's adrenaline must have been at an all-time high, it is very feasible. During emergency situations of any kind, people can become "super-human" due to the adrenaline rush (I am not a medical expert, but I've heard enough people say this in real life, and seen examples on TV news programs).

What about woman in the military, and woman firefighters. . I would expect the woman would have to pass some type of physical test so as to be able to help a fallen (male) comrade, e.g. drag him to safety. So in my opinion woman are capable of doing what Jodi did. Woman go into combat now, don't they? moo

 

[ElleElle]

BBM~ No kidding, eh? She remembers and relished every second of it.

I wish there was a way one can extract brain memory data.

3:15 - she "couldn't imagine calling 911 and telling them what she had just done".

What? If she'd been in a fog how would she know what she had just done?