trial day 52: REBUTTAL; #160

[aa9511]

I think the Sneiderman trial in Georgia might be the next one that HLN covers. It should be a good one, so hopefully we will all congregate here for that one!! Thanks for all the insights and ideas from all of you sleuthers, I enjoyed your posts!

Oh sorry, I can't get sucked into another one. This one has taken over my life. I was so relieved when JSS gave us an idea of when the end would be (well at least for the trial part).

 

[TexasLassie]

BBM -- it's comforting to know that the roommates girlfriend (sorry, don't know her name) took care of Naps and made sure he was fed and watered. He probably went outside to do his business via the doggie door. But I bet he knew what happened upstairs and was completely distraught knowing his best friend and owner was in the bedroom and he couldn't get to him. Dogs can be very sensitive that way.

MOO

Mel

I was glad to hear Deanna is now taking care of Napoleon..I think Travis would have wanted his trusted friend from long ago taking care of him.

 

[TexasLassie]

Oh sorry, I can't get sucked into another one. This one has taken over my life. I was so relieved when JSS gave us an idea of when the end would be (well at least for the trial part).[/QUOTE

Pls tell me what the Sneiderman case is about...TIA

 

[Rocco]

If I watch HLN at night, I will get a TO on here. :blush:

So, I know my boundaries and stay away from that channel. I just stream trial and try to catch things i've missed.

Do you happen to know why CNN isn't live streaming the trial anymore?

 

[Amster]

Why did we not see the Jodi side of the text? The one where Travis is so angry? Or, did we and I just missed it?

 

[gngr~snap]

I think Deanna was in his ward.. Nurmi was rude to her on the witness stand, but I do understand the job of a defense attny.. I was very impressed with Deanna's testimony.

I thought so. Very telling that he would ask JA not to come into his ward.
He knew she was trouble when she showed up in July 07.

IMO he didn't even want to be friends with her any longer.
I wonder how many times she attended Mon night services at her ward.
I am just not sure about how much "sex" continued after she moved to AZ.
IMO much less than she claimed!

Still he took her on vacations..

 

[nells]

[/QUOTE

Pls tell me what the Sneiderman case is about...TIA[/quote]

A Georgia woman (Sneiderman) convinces her boss and lover to kill her husband -- in front of a pre-school. She says she didn't have an affair with her boss; the boss said he heard "voices" telling him to kill the husband.

The case has been profiled on both Dateline and 20/2; Dateline episode, "Over the Edge": http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3032600/vp/46767021#46767021

 

[Dr. Know?]

Do you happen to know why CNN isn't live streaming the trial anymore?

I think because the Boston Marathon bombings & crazy events that have taken the place of this trial. It certainly is a horrible thing to happen & keep up to date on. Sad. That's just my opinion plus this trial is dragging on for ever. Glad to see a possible end date!

 

[Nancy_Drew]

Here we go, snippets of Jodi's journal entries: re: phone confusion clear-up and more.

Jodi writes Travis being bi-polar. :what:

Thurs. May 22, 2008

Today has been a day of good news and sadness. Good news: my phone arrived! And not a moment too soon. Sad news: I finally had “the conversation” with Travis and it did not go well. I sort of put it to him already in an e-mail I sent a few days ago and he didn’t like that either, not nor did he take the hint. So I realized I had to be a little bit more direct. I told him that of course I’m looking for[ward] to his impending visit, that I can’t wait to check more things off the list (from 1,000 places), but that we probably would be better off in all ways if we were not physical.

He got offended and upset, then acted distant. I tried being so sweet and speak kindly to him, playing up all of the advantages of not violating the law of chastity, and he didn’t want to hear any of it. He said he already knows all that. Then it got worse, he asked me who I’m seeing, have I been getting my kicks with someone else, etc. Of course I swore that I wasn’t (which is true) but also pointed out that even if I was, then that’s my right. I also pointed out that I didn’t freak out when he confessed his potentially underlying love for Mimi. He said to leave his love life out of it. Typical. Then after a moment, he apologized, and said a lot of his frustration is from the fact that things in his dating life aren’t going that well, that yes, he still likes Mimi, but it’s not progressing the way he wants to, and he’s leaning towards giving up on her. I told him to be patient, she’ll come around.

The problem with Travis, is that he so used to guys girls falling all over themselves for him and she doesn’t do that. He needs that, I really think he does, –to wait.

Well, even sadder is we agreed to amicably part ways. He is an amazing person, and he’s told me countless times that I am one of the most beautiful people he’s ever met–on the inside and out. But it is really better this way. We both agreed to change our passwords, which we had exchanged eons ago to establish, or reestablish “trust” which we had both violated, so no more of that. We had both picked 2 accounts so I chose Facebook and Gmail and he chose Facebook and MySpace.

We are truly good people at the core, both of us, but we can’t behave ourselves when were around each other, not even over the phone. He said I am still like kryptonite to him. But I’m tired of being guilt-ridden when the air clears.

I knew it was wrong going over there all those nights but I couldn’t say no to him, I couldn’t not pick up the phone. He would rationalize it saying “it’s really not that bad,” or “come on, I want to please you,” and I was weak. I went anyway, I answered the phone anyway.

Moving has certainly helped me morally. I don’t know if it has him or if he’s found a replacement booty-call. For his sake I hope he hasn’t, not because it would be a replacement but because it is not spiritually productive. We both want to get married and I don’t think either of us is anywhere near that if we continue to act immorally w/each other. I am mortified that my phone was stolen. It had a hugely scandalous text message from him (10 pgs!) that he sent last week. It would make a steamy romance novel sound like a script from a G-rated Disney movie. I also had 1 or 2 recorded conversations that were equally as scandalous. I never did figure out how to play those back for him. Well they’re gone now and we won’t be making more. Well, actually I wouldn’t bet on it entirely, one of us will crack and call the other. It’s crazy, but what can you do?

Wherever my phone is now, I just hope text messages and conversations are never discovered. Yikes. It’s certainly not Pamela Anderson or Paris Hilton level scandal, there’s no videos but it would be embarrassing nonetheless.

I am honestly relieved about the whole thing. The “just friends” had many complicated “benefits.” I’m not seeing anyone per se, but somehow I feel like it’s still isn’t fair to any of my current prospects. And Travis said he still certain he wants to marry Mimi, although they’re not yet dating. It’s not fair to her either, in my opinion. We hadn’t talked about her in so long, I didn’t realize he was still in pursuit. I wouldn’t dare lecture him over it though. The first thing that almost popped out of my mouth was, “then why the hell are we still messing around if that’s the case?!?” But I kept it shut. For two reason[s.] 1: it would be like the pot calling the kettle black (as I’ve had my eyon eye on some wonderful’s myself. 2. I honestly don’t think Travis can be monogamous. I’m certain he wasn’t w/ me, although I don’t dwell on it anymore, but my certainty was further solidified when his pattern of behavior continued with his next girlfriend, Lisa Andrews. When he finally admitted that they had been dating, I felt so guilty. I almost wanted to tell her, it seemed only fair, but by then had already broken up and he had moved on to Mimi. Besides, not only would telling her destroy our friendship (mine and his), but it would cause a lot of unnecessary drama and pain. And just because Travis acted like a schmuck when it came to how he treated his previous girlfriends, doesn’t mean he’s capable of learning how to be better. It’s just that I’ve yet to see evidence of it. But perhaps it will be different w/ Mimi. One things for sure, I wouldn’t want to be the “other girl” in that relationship, I couldn’t handle the guilt. And these things don’t necessarily discount all of his other amazing qualities. He’s done more for me than I could ever cout count. He’s helped me in every area of my life. I’m indebted to him for all of the wonderful things that his done. He’s just so dang hot and cold. Bi-polar even, it would seem. But I have a gazillion memories that we’ve created that I will always value, just like the ones w/ Bobby, Matt, and Darryl. All unique. All special, all priceless.

Anyway, one thing I do know is it feels like a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders. I’m saddened and, yes, but it feels like a conclusion, like closure. The final chapter was finally written, and the ending was bittersweet. He said on some level, we will always be friends, but we both agreed that it’s better this way. It’s true. It is very much in alignment with the e-mail I sent him a few days ago. He’ll be so much better off this way spiritually and emotionally. And I’ll start dating for real again soon. Not this casual fill-in-your-Friday-night stuff. I won’t miss his teasing or his bi-polar tendencies to snap and yell and say things he ends up regretting, but I will miss his sense of humor. We’ll still have his car to take care of, but he’ll keep me posted on any new developments. He said if all else fails, then we’ll just scrap it but I would…END

Oh, that is so OBVIOUSLY fake... My goodness, the examples are too many to list... It sounds like she was writing it hoping MiMi and Lisa would read it...

I also think that after she told Travis about the phone sex recording she "got her phone stolen" to further infuriate him, and also so she would have a reason for not "being able" to delete it...the timing of that phone being stolen is just another one of Jodi's unbelievable coincidences!

 

[Nancy_Drew]

I thought so. Very telling that he would ask JA not to come into his ward.
He knew she was trouble when she showed up in July 07.

IMO he didn't even want to be friends with her any longer.
I wonder how many times she attended Mon night services at her ward.
I am just not sure about how much "sex" continued after she moved to AZ.
IMO much less than she claimed!

Still he took her on vacations..

I too think that the sex was MUCH less than she claims... 1) I think she wants everyone to think Travis wasn't really as wonderful as everyone knew his was, and 2) Because she thinks it will either make the other girls TA dated jealous, or "show them" that TA wasn't really into them b/c the whole time he was cheating on them with JA...

 

[luv]

Jodi Arias Trial: My Jury Notes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39cjZz78OkA&feature=youtu.be





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[Nancy_Drew]

I was glad to hear Deanna is now taking care of Napoleon..I think Travis would have wanted his trusted friend from long ago taking care of him.

If I'm not mistaken, TA willed Napoleon to Deanna....

 

[gngr~snap]

[/QUOTE

Pls tell me what the Sneiderman case is about...TIA

A Georgia woman (Sneiderman) convinces her boss and lover to kill her husband -- in front of a pre-school. She says she didn't have an affair with her boss; the boss said he heard "voices" telling him to kill the husband.

The case has been profiled on both Dateline and 20/20.[/QUOTE]

The boss Hemy Neuman had an angel Olivia Newton John and a devil Barry White they talked to him.
He was found guilty. His wife divorced him.
Andrea Sneiderman was ejected from the courtroom after a "hugging" a friend...
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/day-care-murder-widow-ejected-court/nKPdJ/

She will now stand trial for having Hemy murder her husband...

I am sure there is a thread.

 

[TexasLassie]

[/QUOTE

Pls tell me what the Sneiderman case is about...TIA

A Georgia woman (Sneiderman) convinces her boss and lover to kill her husband -- in front of a pre-school. She says she didn't have an affair with her boss; the boss said he heard "voices" telling him to kill the husband.

The case has been profiled on both Dateline and 20/2; Dateline episode, "Over the Edge": http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3032600/vp/46767021#46767021[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Nells... I will skip it, and start my spring garden..

 

[gngr~snap]

I too think that the sex was MUCH less than she claims... 1) I think she wants everyone to think Travis wasn't really as wonderful as everyone knew his was, and 2) Because she thinks it will either make the other girls TA dated jealous, or "show them" that TA wasn't really into them b/c the whole time he was cheating on them with JA...

I heard somewhere tonight all this sex talk is to get the Mormon's on the jury to decide that his actions are unexcusable an let her walk...

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I'm joining the party late tonight, haven't felt good all day, still don't, but I promise not to cough on the monitor.

So with that as my excuse, let me just say; If you can't believe a rag that carries such stories as "Woman has alien baby", "Live prehistoric dinosaur found in jungles of Africa" and such other bombshells, who can one trust?

 

[dani]

She is writing a book in jail. So when she gets out she will have $.
We did hear her "journals" were taken from her cell April 1.

I'm way behind on this thread, but…WHEN she is convicted she will no longer be able to make money from behind bars. Arizona has the "Son of Sam" law. She's not a convicted felon…YET.:twocents:

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I too think that the sex was MUCH less than she claims... 1) I think she wants everyone to think Travis wasn't really as wonderful as everyone knew his was, and 2) Because she thinks it will either make the other girls TA dated jealous, or "show them" that TA wasn't really into them b/c the whole time he was cheating on them with JA...

Thank you, thank you, thank you! JA was jealous of Travis' popularity and she wanted to be a part of him for attention's sake. As my late mother would say, hjalf the lies she tells aren't even true. :drumroll:

 

[TexasLassie]

G'night all....Hang in there. Justice for Travis is around the corner..Juan will make sure of it.

R.I.P Travis Victor Alexander

 

[Dr. Know?]

The mad writing started how long ago? JW & JA? I just noticed it recently. Is this for the new qualified doctor? ha-hummm. I wonder how many hours he will state he evaluated JA? More than 12 hours? DM did 12 hours personally with JA. More fluff and nutter to come. gah!

JM is very very smart & talented in a court room. I hope he fulfills whatever dream he has. He deserves it. His presentaion has been brilliant. Hard for some to understand or stomache at times, that I understand but I'm not fighting the bull with being naive anyomre at my age.... There isn't one other bull than the one the defense & JA are portraying... and that rhymes with sit.

Ha ha, just reread my post and I sound like what's her name Susan Moss? on NG. I'll let it stand.