Trial Discussion Thread #1 - 14.03.03-06, Day 1-4

[MeeBee]

really??

Yes. We would just dial 911 straight away, even if you lived in a community with security. Calling them in a life and death emergency wouldn't make sense when 911 is so accessible to everyone. Perhaps a security person also functions differently abroad than they do here.

 

[atthelake]

OMG - Stander STILL hadn't called an ambulance!!!! WTH????

Yeppers, a reason to call 911 as was stated by the good doctor that it was stated iirc by Standard's wife "I hope this doesn't make the papers".

Interesting.......

NOTE TO SELF: Call 911 vs. security if you need assistance!

 

[zwiebel]

Police did not arrive all the time he was at OP's house.

 

[Really?]

Oscar has a lawyer, by 4.17 am. speedy on the stumps AND the dialing finger.

:floorlaugh:

 

[shane13]

This witness is familiar with the sound of gunshots (military experience?).

But does he have cricket bat bashing experience?

 

[zwiebel]

Forgot to mention, he said man's scream much lower in tone. He made the differential.

 

[Trooper]

the security guy wants this to stay in house. what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.. big mistake.. or maybe.. that was Oscars direction.. no doubt, Stander will be on the stand at some stage of this trial.

 

[zwiebel]

'On the second occasion there were 3 bangs, one on top of the other. Bang bang bang.'

Łunch

 

[atthelake]

Someone said 'I hope this news doesn't get in the papers' but I don't know who.

I recall he said it was Standards wife - iirc. Therefore the "woman in the doorway" that was mentioned earlier?

 

[Really?]

Lunch break....:tantrum:....I may be asleep before they get back....

 

[shane13]

Did he say there was a gap between 1st and final 3 shots?
If so how long?

 

[MeeBee]

'On the second occasion there were 3 bangs, one on top of the other. Bang bang bang.'

Łunc

This is consistent with other testimony.

 

[Trooper]

:drumroll:

:floorlaugh:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/smilies/drumroll.gif

 

[atthelake]

4:17am Mr. Stander called him to say Oscar's lawyer may be calling...

That's important. Letting police know he was on the scene and should give a statement? Not so much. To his credit, the witness sought police out after not hearing from them.

And Oscar's lawyer would be calling him why? To quickly get a version of his events to "mesh" op's story?

ETA: Can someone post the radio station that has the commentary to listen to during the lunch break? TAI

 

[Trooper]

I cant recall what profession Charl Johnson was proficient in.. he handled Roux well. but this bloke Stipp, a doctor of radiology, not fazed by a dead bleeding Reeva in the middle of the night wont be easy for Roux.. I am curious as to how Roux will approach him. Stipp has, being a radiologist, at least 12 years training for his doctorate, then 4 years for his radiology speciality, and is used to noting facts, details and possibly a photographic memory as well..

 

[shane13]

Oscar could have gone back up for many reasons.
!. Nothing consequential
2. Alter crime scene?
3. make some phone calls that wouldn't be overheard?
4. washed his hands "because they had blood on them."
5. other?

 

[Trooper]

Oscar could have gone back up for many reasons.
!. Nothing consequential
2. Alter crime scene?
3. make some phone calls that wouldn't be overheard?
4. washed his hands "because they had blood on them."
5. other?

Open the bathroom window???

 

[atthelake]

Good commentary ongoing now on radio during break - http://whoopwhoop.tv/pistoriusradio.htm

 

[soozieqtips]

Stipp says he remembers he was awakened by three loud bangs on the night of the murder. He walked out onto the balcony and heard screaming, he says: “It sounded to me like the voice of a female”.

I wonder how many more times Roux is going to try and convince every single witness who claimed to hear a woman screaming that it was in fact OP. Getting desperate if you ask me.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/06/oscar-pistorius-trial-live-updates-day-four

 

[Trooper]

And Oscar's lawyer would be calling him why? To quickly get a version of his events to "mesh" op's story?

Id like to know what time Oscar rang his lawyer.. must have been pretty damn quick.. from ' oh god, I will dedicate my life etc,' to " this is Oscar Pretorius calling, I've just shot my girlfriend, accidentally of course, get here now. ' .. '... he wasn't that quick to call REEVA'S PARENTS