Trial Discussion Thread #1 - 14.03.03-06, Day 1-4

[zwiebel]

He thought it might be family tragedy parents shooting kids...

Got dressed, drove to security, then OP's house.

 

[Trooper]

this poor Stipp bloke screamed at his wife to get away from the window and the balcony..

he noticed someone was moving in Oscars bathroom.. from right to left.. the light was on. they discussed between the, his wife and he , should they go and see what was going on?? in case children were involved?? they decided yes.. so he got dressed, he was in his pyjamas , I think. a correct sort of British heritage guy.. he gets dressed, he goes over the road.. carefully, I imagine.. he still doesn't know who owns the house, or who is in it.

he is a doctor,..of radiology as a speciality . Makes sense he would go over.

 

[zwiebel]

'There was man talking on cell, standing against white BMW. Lady in doorway. 'I'm a doctor, can I help?'

 

[shane13]

I knew there would be a witness who saw lights on in OP's house!!!

There goes the BS claim that it was "pitch dark"!

But I think he is talking about the bathroom, and there never was any claim that the bathroom was dark.

 

[sorrell skye]

This witness is the doctor who came to the residence to render assistance.

Witness: A man had his left hand on her right groin, his right hand fingers in her mouth.

 

[zwiebel]

There was another Lady lying on her back on floor. There was a man on left kneeling by her with two fingers in her mouth, left hand on her groin.

The first thing he said 'I shot her. I thought she was a burglar and I shot her'

 

[zwiebel]

Think they are showing crime scene pics now. Not to public though.

 

[Trooper]

Interesting that these folks call neighborhood security vs. police. Do they not have something comparable to 911 in SA?

TIA

of course they do.. but this is a gated community, it has its own 24 hour security within 600 yards.. makes sense they would call their very own and close by security first.. and it would be habit to, I would think.. I do the same. .it doesn't seem odd to me.

 

[zwiebel]

'I think Oscar tried to open her airway'

 

[Feynman]

Lights were on in the Bathroom?

Not according to the affidavit, no. But he can see the window is open, that the toilet door is closed, etc (again, his words in the affidavit).

 

[Trooper]

oh this poor poor bloke.. he does the first medical examination of Reeva. he knows she is dead almost immediately.

wounds in the right thigh, wounds in the right arm, blood in the hair, brain tissue mixed in with her hair.

 

[zwiebel]

'I tried to assist her, open her airway. No pulse in her neck, no pulse'

'She was clenching down on Oscar's fingers'

Reeva bit him.....

 

[zwiebel]

'She was mortally wounded. Brain tissue intermingled with her skull...'

 

[Trooper]

who is the OTHER lady in the doorway??

 

[zwiebel]

'Oscar was crying all the time. 'Please God let her live. Said he'd dedicate her and his life to God, if only God would let her live.'

 

[sorrell skye]

OMG - Stander STILL hadn't called an ambulance!!!! WTH????

 

[zwiebel]

And all through that, security had not yet called an ambulance he says!

 

[Really?]

Oscar is covering his ears with his hands....head down...he doesn't want to hear this

 

[Trooper]

whole doing this examination, he notices Oscar going upstairs... he at first thinks that Oscar is going up there to off himself. a few seconds later, he comes down again.. make of that what you will

He still doesn't know it's Oscar Pistorius..

 

[zwiebel]

'At one stage while I was outside, I noticed Oscar was going upstairs. I asked Mr S if he knew where the gun was....I thought maybe O was going to hurt himself. A few minutes later, O returned down the stairs.'