Trial Discussion Thread #1 - 14.03.03-06, Day 1-4

[Trooper]

this isn't going to work with Dr Stipp not working now.. wont work any time soon.

Dr Stipp..' I understand you are making an observation of what you think my statements says....BUT'... classic

 

[sorrell skye]

Oh - Roux is being careful to explain to this witness (who is a medical professional, as well as familiar with the sounds of gunshots due to his military training) that he's not attacking his credibility.

Different tactic than he used with Burger & Johnson, IMO.

 

[zwiebel]

S: 'It's not totally inconsistent, I did mention shots on the first occasion'

R: 'Do you understand?'

S: 'I understand you are making an observation.'

 

[Trooper]

Roux jumps from the sounds, without explanation and straight to Reeva's wounds.. He's given up on the sound stuff.

 

[zwiebel]

'Dr, I'm not attacking your credibility, I'm trying to demonstrate your honest mistake'

 

[Melanie]

Oscar is going to walk away from this a free man...:banghead:

IMHO, MOO - I think he will at least be convicted of gross neglect. That's if the court believes he thought an intruder was in the bathroom -- even though the doors to the patio were left open (which he said he closed shortly before the killing).

MOO

Mel

 

[Trooper]

Roux states that Reeva wouldn't be able to scream AFTER the last shot. ..

 

[Trooper]

the doctor listens quietly as Roux states his clients position. the doctor doesn't rush in. agrees with the theory so far...

 

[MeeBee]

'Dr, I'm not attacking your credibility, I'm trying to demonstrate your honest mistake'

How can he say that like it's fact?

 

[zwiebel]

R: 'It was a terrible, serious, devastating head wound....medical specialists all tell me, that person, after the shots, would not have been able to scream. Does that make sense?

S: It does.

 

[zwiebel]

Nel: I object! One cannot say that as a fact!

Re the version of the shots wounds.

 

[Trooper]

Nel is objecting.. he says.. Roux cant go one badgering the witness on the say so of the accused version of events.. hmmm

roux now explaining what sequence his question is about the shot. the Dr, says he understands Roux question, and repeats it back to him to make sure. Roux gets a bit cranky.

 

[zwiebel]

S: 'You're saying that The first shots I heard are shots, the second a cricket bat? They both sounded the same'

 

[Trooper]

Roux wont get any further with this witness.. Now roux is hinting, I think, that the head shot was the first, and therefore it was Oscar screaming only .
Dr Stipp wont have it.

 

[sorrell skye]

Ohhhhh - Dr. Stipp just said that the cricket bat sounded similar to the gunshots, and the gunshots could have come AFTER the cricket bat!!!!!!

I hadn't imagined that scenario, but it gives me pause.

 

[zwiebel]

R: 'There was a fatal wounding of the deceased - what I'm saying it's medically impossible screams could have been the deceased'

S: ' The screams sounded female to me.'

 

[Trooper]

aha... the old Oscar screams like a woman in panic again..

and the dr says.. well. cant it?? I don't know..

Roux.. we will call an expert to show this is possible.. ( why not have Oscar just do it again??))

the dr says.. you are proposing two TONES of voice?? dr says.. the screams, a man and a womans were intermingled..

 

[kittychi]

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Trooper & Zwiebel & Sorrell Skye:

:gthanks:

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:yourock:

 

[zwiebel]

R:'Can his voice sound like a woman screaming?'

S:'I dunno. Can it?'

 

[katydid23]

nope.. Dr is going to tell his story his way.. politely rejected Roux's version.

I am afraid that Roux is creating some reasonable doubt for the judge to mull over. Scares me. EVen on that wHOOP RADIO SHOW THEY SEEM TO BE saying that Roux is winning the day.