TorisMom003
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Anyone that watched the trial today live, can you tell me if OP was crying during the reading/viewing of the text messages?
Can anyone remember the text where OP is asking her not to tell anyone because 'Darren has taken the blame', and Reeva texts back she doesn't 'know what you are talking about', and a smiley?
How did Reeva find out about that - she wasn't there in the restaurant that day of the shooting. Had OP told her earlier, and was regretting it? Or had he heard that someone else had told her about it? It's all a bit odd.
But it was petty and meaningless.
If this had been an ordinary conversation outside a courtroom, when she said she wasn't there you would say, "Ah, but this was taken on the Friday (or whatever) and you were there then". It would just be a misunderstanding of no significance, clarified there and then.
With Africa not having a problem with hearsay maybe the Ex will be a witness and tell us what he and she talked about the day before.
Anyone that watched the trial today live, can you tell me if OP was crying during the reading/viewing of the text messages?
I think the times when he fills his lungs in exasperation is really condescending. Likewise when be breathes out and sighs. In fact, just when he breathes...
Anyone that watched the trial today live, can you tell me if OP was crying during the reading/viewing of the text messages?
I read one press release that said he was towards the end and was comforted by his sister .
One press article says that she had her mobile turned off for most of the evening which seems quite unusual for a person of her age bearing in mind her career . Would be interested to know if that was normal for her or not .
.....and him constantly saying 'wonderful' in a rather sarky way when Mrs S finished speaking :snooty:
So Oscar was moody and didn't behave well, or didn't behave the way Reeva liked, on some occasions. He accused her of flirting - and maybe she was or maybe she wasn't. He criticized things about her that she got sad about.
I don't see the real relevance of these messages though, other than to show that they had arguments and issues with each other.
Perhaps OP insisted she turn it off so he could have her full attention?
Concerning the I am not a stripper or a ho from Reeva to OP, the only reason Reeva would say something like this is if OP had made mention of her being one and/or the other to her before. Now, is it shown that OP said that to her in this set of text messages? No, however that does not mean that he did not say it. A woman is not going to offer that up out of the blue without being accused of it first. A woman that has used weed before is not going to equate that with being a stripper and/or ho. Drug use, occasional or regular, does not equate with being a stripper and/or ho.
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Perhaps OP insisted she turn it off so he could have her full attention?
Yes. That's the only word I've seen in the msgs that infers OP has a short fuse. I'm conceding to that one, although most of the other stuff in the messages is a storm in a teacup for me.I'm way behind, but trying to catch up.... I think it's hugely significant that she specifically said she was scared of him. It's one thing to be pissed after an argument, but to be scared... that's different.
BBM- I spent 5 years volunteering at a woman's shelter & most of my clients would say that those messages reflect their story, most would say OMG that sounds like me. I had a client who's bf knocked her down in his car, then repeatedly ran over her legs. This client was only 23 years old & her legs were so badly crushed they were both amputated above the knees. To say that OP may have been trying to open the door by shooting at it is as bad as her bf claiming he was just trying to scare her. My clients crime like RS was that her bf believed she was flirting with another guy.
"as bad as her bf claiming he was just trying to scare her"
"albeit technically it would I think still be qualified as a murder for court purposes and I would think that right"