Trial Discussion Thread #51 - 14.11.9, Day 41 ~announcement of the verdict~

[zwiebel]

Is there a link to anyone doing a discussion during this break?

Here. Sounds as though they're in an echo chamber though....

http://whoopwhoop.tv/pistoriusradio.htm

 

[Exchange973]

@Suth I love how my tar heel neighbors talk.

Good morning, peeps, from Virginia! 3:30AM

Can't link. He's discussing it live on Oscar channel 199.

Clear IMO now that no acquittal. Only question is CH vs eventualis - I think she'll go for the latter. Don't forget the medical evidence which she put to one side and said she will come back to. Would be v surprised if that got him off the hook tho

 

[kaydono]

OP is an omniscient truth-teller according to her view. Discount anything that may sway remotely from his account of how the events took place.

 

[zwiebel]

You can listen on Talk Radio 702 or whoop whoop.

Here?

http://www.702.co.za/index.asp

 

[DebinGA]

If Judge Greenland is happy, I'm happy. So far, m'lady is seeming appeal-proof imo. I'm a little worried that she's holding Dr. Voerster's GAD opinion in abeyance until later.

 

[katydid23]

discussion during the break:

http://whoopwhoop.tv/pistoriusradio.htm

 

[soozieqtips]

Pistorius told the court he did not think about pulling the trigger. He said he never thought of the possibility that he could kill somebody inside the toilet. If he had wanted to kill the perceived intruder, he would have fired higher, he told the court.

Masipa says that explanation is “inconsistent with someone who shot without thinking”.

She says she will return to this point later.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2014/sep/11/oscar-pistorius-verdict-trial-live

 

[ApplesInMyBra]

Masipa places more credence on security guard story that all was fine outside OP's house, than neighbour hearing argument.

WTF???????????????????

 

[Giles]

I'm still thinking eventualis.

 

[04009margaret]

Lots of singing & noise outside court in support of Reeva with the NCA Womens League protest

 

[DILLIGAF]

She'll find him guilty of dolus eventualis imo. Plus the discharging of a firearm charges. He may still walk though.:sick:

 

[Hope4More]

This is kind of what I thought would happen, though: that she'd reject much of the state's case on reasonable doubt but still feel OP should be held accountable and punished for his carelessness and for taking an innocent life. As she should!

Exactly, and bravo for being able to be so succinct!

 

[MeeBee]

Masipa places more credence on security guard story that all was fine outside OP's house, than neighbour hearing argument.

WTF???????????????????

Makes sense. He was right there, they were not. The argument could have been coming from anywhere. When security drove by, he didn't hear an argument. It's just common sense.

 

[zwiebel]

I'm still thinking eventualis.

I've forgotten what that means.

 

[sorrell skye]

Ulrich Roux @ulrichroux · 1m
Should Judge reject State argument of premeditated murder,she can still convict of Murder-dolus directus or eventualis.Wait&see

I don't think OP will be acquitted.

It's seems clear so far that My Lady doesn't believe OP's claim of firing accidentally or firing without intention.

 

[04009margaret]

Carl Pistorius interviewon ENCA

 

[ColonelMustard]

I'm going to bet that she LOVED Derman. Yikes.

 

[zwiebel]

andrew harding (@BBCAndrewH) tweeted at 11:00am - 11 Sep 14:

Judge says Pistorius didn't think he'd kill anyone. But judge cites height of bullets - none fired high as potential warning shot. (https://twitter.com/BBCAndrewH/status/509989838226202625)

 

[ApplesInMyBra]

Masipa on Oscar Pistorius; "his evidence is important. He is only one who can tell court what happened." But it never occurred to her that he might be lying???

 

[sleuth-d-]

yes. if she has a simple pared-down reasoning and removes all the grey areas, this also removes all the grounds for appeal.