Trial Discussion Thread #55 - 14.14.10, Day 44 ~ sentencing~

[jimmy73]

Discharge firearm in crowded restaurant - danger to society
Gun someone down in a toilet cubicle - danger to society

FACT.

 

[zwiebel]

AV: This accused is first time offender, accepts responsibility, that he was negligent, unlikely to reoffend...

remorse, remorse, remorse

 

[pandax81]

What?! He accepts he was negligent!!

That means he now accepts it was not involuntary action.

Looking forward to cross-examination.

 

[JudgeJudi]

This sounds like Henzen tu-Toit herself wrote it.

 

[zwiebel]

She just said the regular monthly payment to steenkamps and promise of further payment that OP has made, shows he is truly remorsful.

Also, facilities in prison not suitable for OP.

 

[jay-jay]

So on the one hand she keeps on insisting that the sentence/punishment should act as a deterrent to others .. but on the other hand she's saying that a non-custodial sentence is better for the offender and the general public .. yeah right, 2 days a month community service is a real deterrent, isn't it? :facepalm:

There is no way that this report is unbiased ..

 

[LaLaw2000]

Oh, this is such BS!!!

What about Reeva???

 

[Onlyamum]

'He has shown remorse has cried' - oh well that's fine then...

'detention would be of no benefit to him' - are you having a laugh?

'prison would take his future away' - what planet are those people living on - what about Reeva's future!! He took that away

 

[JudgeJudi]

And he had no rails or anything to hang onto in his own shower. There was no evidence in the crime scene photos of the stool he said he needed to sit on when in the shower. This is all rubbish too.

 

[james83]

Gerrie please shred this fool.

 

[sleuth-d-]

using her report, would anyone do prison time for ch?

 

[zwiebel]

She is listing all the ways prison is not suitable for OP because of his disability. No baths etc....would 'place him in danger and take his future away. He would re-enter society a broken person'

 

[KarenUK]

AV: This accused is first time offender, accepts responsibility, that he was negligent, unlikely to reoffend...
remorse, remorse, remorse

Bolded by me..... "UNLIKELY"?! It's nowhere near enough when he comes to killing someone

 

[patCee]

:tantrum:Here we go, recommending a non custodial sentence after all the sociological renderings. Poor man would be broken if sent to prison. Is a first offender - wrong, he is not.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Masipa's writing. She likes what she's hearing.

 

[zwiebel]

She is recommending non-custodial sentence with a fine, or suspended sentence?

Said OP would have to borrow fine money from family and pay it back

 

[jimmy73]

Seriously? No criminal pathological background in the offences he was charged with?

The speedboat, the speeding in cars? The gun offences? FFS. What do all the events he was charged with indicate to her?

 

[zwiebel]

Ugh. His 'rehabilitation chances are best with correctional supervision'

 

[lithgow1]

From BB below. Yes, because we've seen how well his family monitor him eh. Enable him more like it, to the point of covering up his crimes.

Vergeer: correctional supervision would place the accused with his family and enable strict monitoring. BB

 

[zwiebel]

AZ: Community service, fine, could ensure compliance....suitable candidate for community corrections...