Trial Thread - 9 May 2012 Judge to give Jury Instructions

[robynhood]

RaffertyLFP Court is seeing the the Genest video again Rafferty and McClinitic are hugging, laughing

 

[robynhood]

AveryFreeFMNews Gowdey says #Rafferty did what he needed to do to string McClintic along after #ToriStafford's death. Visits to detention centre, gifts.

 

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Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Gowdey says #Rafferty did what he needed to do to string McClintic along after #ToriStafford's death. Visits to detention centre, gifts.

 

[robynhood]

RaffertyLFP Gowdey said Rafferty needed to keep McClintic onside and find out what she knew

 

[matou]

@AM980_Court Rafferty, not coincidentally Gowdey says, visited a second time just after McClintic was interrogated by police.


That's a biggie right there. JMO

 

[robynhood]

AM980_Court Rafferty, not coincidentally Gowdey says, visited a second time just after McClintic was interrogated by police.

 

[Sailor Bug]

Rafferty needed McClintic, Gowdey says. He kept in close communication

Gowdey now focusing on the May 15th weekend. He was interviewed by police on the 15th. Then started covering his tracks.

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey advances to day that Rafferty was interviewed by police and then called McClintic to lay low "knew the net was closing in on him"

 

[otto]

I think that MR defence would have had a better chance if they'd skipped the one witness and opted for presenting last.

 

[robynhood]

AM980_Court Rafferty needed McClintic, Gowdey says. He kept in close communication.

 

[matou]

MR had TLM in a cage with her being in Genest. He knew where she was at all times. He was in control. JMO

 

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Laura Carney ‏ @TheLC_75
Gowdey reads a part of McClintic's testimony saying #Rafferty said they could be the next Bonnie and Clyde. #Rafferty shakes head rolls eyes

Laura Carney ‏ @TheLC_75
Gowdey expects to take much of the day as he concludes his closing arguments.

 

[robynhood]

veryFreeFMNews Gowdey says #Rafferty wanted to be sure he maintained control over McClintic. To gather any info from her in case the police turned to him

 

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Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Crown on video: "“This is a man at the top of his game making sure his plan to cover their tracks is still succeeding”

 

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Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Gowdey says #Rafferty wanted to be sure he maintained control over McClintic. To gather any info from her in case the police turned to him


Laura Carney ‏ @TheLC_75
Gowdey suggests #Rafferty visited McClintic at Genest to maintain control over her.

 

[Sailor Bug]

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey said Rafferty was intent on getting certain kind of Puma shoes to replace the ones that showed up in the video from April 8

He went to an auto wreckers yard, exchanged his blackberry.

 

[nursebeeme]

Here lies the problem, premeditated would be first degree, after the fact I am not so sure.

First-degree murder is when the killing is "planned and deliberate." In other words, where the murder was premeditated. However, some killings that aren't premeditated are still automatically first-degree, such as the killing of a police officer or when the killing takes place during the commission of a hijacking, kidnapping or sexual assault.

http://www2.canada.com/vancouversun....html?id=ffa77705-640d-4d47-9cad-729b648abbe5

 

[robynhood]

RaffertyLFP Gowdey advances to day that Rafferty was interviewed by police and then called McClintic to lay low "knew the net was closing in on him"

 

[nobodyzgirl]

that is exactly what he said too. In his opinion TLM messed up everything by changing her testimony and saying that she did the killing. I hate to say it but I have the feeling that he is right. We all want to see this guy locked up for a long time (that's what our hearts want) because that's what we believe. But that's is not the way a Jury can make their verdict. They can only built on things they can proof.....

Another question that came up in this discussion was: what if the jury would say: we can't agree with 1st degree murder but find him guilty of accessory murder? Is that even possible because that's not what he is charged with?

If the judge doesn't instruct on any lesser charges (i.e., accessory) and the jury can't agree on 1st degree, then it comes back as a hung jury. They can only convict on lesser charges if the judge instructs that way. HTH

 

[robynhood]

RaffertyLFP Gowdey said Rafferty was intent on getting certain kind of Puma shoes to replace the ones that showed up in the video from April 8

 

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Linda Nguyen ‏ @LindaNguyenPN
After police intvued #Rafferty on May 15, he called TLM at Genest Detention Centre. She says that's when he told her they had to lay low