GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #13

[AngelWings444]

Is there proof the birth father never saw TH. TIA

From MSM, he found out he had a son when TH was 13. Then, he requested DNA to prove paternity. Don't know when it was confirmed that he was the Bio-Dad. But, in his interview with the reporter, he stated he had tried to see his bio-son but no information was provided to him from the agency. I thought I read somewhere that he had recently been in touch with TH to meet, but has since changed is mind since the murder.

I'm sure someone can link it. If not, I will find it later. HTH

 

[CatFancier]

From MSM, he found out he had a son when TH was 13. Then, he requested DNA to prove paternity. Don't know when it was confirmed that he was the Bio-Dad. But, in his interview with the reporter, he stated he had tried to see his bio-son but no information was provided to him from the agency. I thought I read somewhere that he had recently been in touch with TH to meet, but has since changed is mind since the murder.

I'm sure someone can link it. If not, I will find it later. HTH

Geisen said that he had had a brief relationship with Kimberly Holder while both lived in Boyd as teenagers but that she’d never told him she was pregnant with his child.

After learning that paternity tests confirmed he was Holder’s father, Geisen said he tried unsuccessfully to meet the boy.

“I’ve tired to contact them, get ahold of them, and nobody was helping me out with anything,” said Geisen, who lives in Montana. “I’ve tried getting ahold of the child support office. They don’t give me any information. All they gave me on the paper was when he was born and his birthday and such.”

Geisen said he is continuing to pay back child support for his son but after hearing of Holder’s charges, is no longer interested in meeting him.

“If those accusations are true, I don’t even want to acknowledge that he is my son,” Geisen said.

http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/07/29/5038936/arlington-officer-shot-during.html

 

[CHERIE.T]

From MSM, he found out he had a son when TH was 13. Then, he requested DNA to prove paternity. Don't know when it was confirmed that he was the Bio-Dad. But, in his interview with the reporter, he stated he had tried to see his bio-son but no information was provided to him from the agency. I thought I read somewhere that he had recently been in touch with TH to meet, but has since changed is mind since the murder.

I'm sure someone can link it. If not, I will find it later. HTH

Thanks Angel, I wasn't sure if his father saw him from birth until recent years. :seeya:

 

[CHERIE.T]

Just his comments in MSM that he tried to get contact info from the state and they didn't give it to him. He said he's no longer interested in meeting him.

:seeya: thanks CF.

 

[AngelWings444]

Serious question: Does anyone really think we can figure out all these criminals? I know we try so hard to figure them out, but I don't think it's possible to put a label/diagnose on all on them. Some are just messed up to the core. I think TH might just be one of those. Fueled by drugs and other stuff. IMO - once you introduce drugs into the equation, a diagnose is so much harder, as they physically change the make-up of your brain.

O/T - I was watching the Josh Young trial today and his Bio-Dad is just pure evil to the core. JMO

 

[CHERIE.T]

Hasn't he said he's not interested in meeting TH?

(Sorry, but are we really accusing the bio dad of abusing TH?)

Please point me to any post that accuses the dad of anything.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Serious question: Does anyone really think we can figure out all these criminals? I know we try so hard to figure them out, but I don't think it's possible to put a label/diagnose on all on them. Some are just messed up to the core. I think TH might just be one of those. Fueled by drugs and other stuff. IMO - once you introduce drugs into the equation, a diagnose is so much harder, as they physically change the make-up of your brain.

O/T - I was watching the Josh Young trial today and his Bio-Dad is just pure evil to the core. JMO

I watched that too Angel. Josh's dad.....a demon. Imo

 

[human]

Serious question: Does anyone really think we can figure out all these criminals? I know we try so hard to figure them out, but I don't think it's possible to put a label/diagnose on all on them. Some are just messed up to the core. I think TH might just be one of those. Fueled by drugs and other stuff. IMO - once you introduce drugs into the equation, a diagnose is so much harder, as they physically change the make-up of your brain.

O/T - I was watching the Josh Young trial today and his Bio-Dad is just pure evil to the core. JMO

I don't know that I can, but depending on if he goes to trial, someone will be working on figuring it out.

And the FBI profilers will certainly add him to their data base.

We know so little, so it is hard to figure out. But we can guess that there are elements that are probably in the toxic mix.

 

[CatFancier]

Let's continue on Thread #14