GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #14

[Marnie]

Calling all nurses or other medicos on this thread. Thinking about apparent lack of throat damage as it would relate to still needing a tracheotomy or tracheostomy. How significant would a throat wound need to be to create the kind of trauma/swelling etc for any kind of trach to be necessary? :waitasec:

A wound would have to be significant enough to compromise the airway in order for a tracheostomy to be placed.

With so many differing reports on his "condition", we were free to speculate the gamut of possibilities from major brain damage to a chin graze.

Looking at his mug shot, we can see he is bandaged basically in the spot where a tracheotomy would be placed. Whether that trach is still in, I have no clue. He is wearing an unusually HEAVY dressing to be covering a patent, airway, IMO.

 

[Midwestmama78]

A wound would have to be significant enough to compromise the airway in order for a tracheostomy to be placed.

With so many differing reports on his "condition", we were free to speculate the gamut of possibilities from major brain damage to a chin graze.

Looking at his mug shot, we can see he is bandaged basically in the spot where a tracheotomy would be placed. Whether that trach is still in, I have no clue. He is wearing an unusually HEAVY dressing to be covering a patent, airway, IMO.

rbbm That's what I thought, too. Surely the dressing was too heavy to be breathed through efficiently.

Thanks for your reply.
:tyou:

 

[ctkid]

Thinking the bandage is now covering up the closed ostomy, as well as the wound.

 

[Midwestmama78]

Thinking the bandage is now covering up the closed ostomy, as well as the wound.

Wonder if his voice has been affected at all.

 

[EBrown]

Re: the earlier discussion about lead. In my area there is routine blood testing lead. All kids get tested. I only knew or heard of one child to test (mildly) positive. His family were members of a beach club with a manmade beach. The sand was trucked in from parts unknown and apparently never tested for anything. The mom suspected that may have been the source.

Even low lead levels are taken seriously in kids today. A blood lead level that would be considered a serious medical event today, was par for the course 50 years ago.

 

[EBrown]

double post

 

[ctkid]

Wonder if his voice has been affected at all.

Very well could be the ostomy would have been at the sternal notch, below the larynx.

 

[ctkid]

Thinking they said the wound was his jaw (mandible), the bandage is in the neck area. If the bullet did miss his mandible and also missed his larynx and trachea, I am amazed that is also missed his carotid arteries.

 

[Midwestmama78]

Very well could be the ostomy would have been at the sternal notch, below the larynx.

Presumably by now the internal swelling will have subsided enough for him to speak more or less normally.

 

[floridamomma]

my 20 yr old was positive for leadwhen he was 2, due to playing with old dumbbells! dumb.... dumbells.... ?

 

[gogrannypop]

Presumably by now the internal swelling will have subsided enough for him to speak more or less normally.

Unless he lost his tongue.

OK- I am officially going to Purgatory.

 

[EnvoyDriver61]

His mug shot is in the Star-Telegram this morning (Fort Worth). Unfortunately, he is in better shape than one had hoped.

 

[human]

I am going to be so ticked if mom or the attorneys stop him from talking.

Justice, please.

He is going away forever, so why not let him tell things. Do something positive!

 

[Dora the Explorer]

Unless he lost his tongue.

OK- I am officially going to Purgatory.

I think you are half right. IMO

eta: Remember Ing said he wouldn't be talking for a long time? And for all appearances he is breathing on his own and looks fairly alert now. Now why, oh why would he not be able to talk for a long time, hmmm?

 

[Dora the Explorer]

I am going to be so ticked if mom or the attorneys stop him from talking.

Justice, please.

He is going away forever, so why not let him tell things. Do something positive!

Why not a lie detector? Sodium pentathol?

 

[KMouse]

Also, just FYI, in Texas we don't air condition our prisons. Most local and county jails are air conditioned but not the state-run jails. We are on our 8th or 9th day in a row of well over 100 degree temperatures also. When you factor in heat index it's pretty warm...

That stinks for the staff. Literally.

 

[gogrannypop]

I think you are half right. IMO

eta: Remember Ing said he wouldn't be talking for a long time? And for all appearances he is breathing on his own and looks fairly alert now. Now why, oh why would he not be able to talk for a long time, hmmm?

I'm usually half right and half left.

I really hope he lost his tongue. It looks like he doesn't have enough damage. MOO

 

[blue22]

Sure Blue22, as I said in my quote above, pretty much what you said. However, the study really wasn't about lead pipes or lead paint. Did you read it? It was about lead gasoline emissions, and it wasn't one study, it was many studies over multiple places, multiple countries and multiple times.

I stand by my quote above, which I've now bolded. Most of these people, all of whom were equally exposed to lead from fuel emissions did not turn out to be violent criminals. But that doesn't change the fact that violent crime was correlated with lead fuel emission rates, right down to the neighborhood.

Ahh...opps. Sorry, I wasn't even intending to quote your post!! It was meant for another comment.

 

[bessie]

I think you are half right. IMO

eta: Remember Ing said he wouldn't be talking for a long time? And for all appearances he is breathing on his own and looks fairly alert now. Now why, oh why would he not be able to talk for a long time, hmmm?

The gunshot might have damaged his larynx.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Hey, even the Boston bomber could communicate within 48 hours after being shot in the throat by himself. It's a stall and/or probably legal if he's alert and transferred to jail now.

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Apr, 2013

12:29am, EDT Badly wounded Boston Marathon bombing suspect responding to questions
Nearly 48 hours after he was taken into custody following an intense gun battle and manhunt, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, was communicating with a special team of federal investigators at Beth Israel Deaconess Hospital. He was responding to questions mostly in writing because of the throat wound, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity. The suspect remains in serious condition.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...-bombing-suspect-responding-to-questions?lite

Forgot to add, are his fingers/hands broke?