GUILTY TX - Alicia Moore, 16, Greenville, 2 November 2012

[Ransom]

Yes. Just hoping time of death was days earlier, and that she was not suffering at a prior location.

ITA. BUT, where was she from Friday, Nov. 2nd until when they found the trunk/body? Redundant question since none of us have a clue.

 

[Elainera]

I just had to delete three paragraphs that would get me banned

I am so unbelievably ANGRY over what is going on here..

(off to ban myself)

:devil:

{{{ HUG }}} Come back soon! You're needed here.

That photo of Alicia with that sweet smile ... breaks my heart.

Darn it!!! Why do people do such senseless sh** ????

 

[Camdenres]

I am not implying anything....her aunt said her uncle was home that afternoon and she never arrived. Is he her real uncle...the aunts husband? Was he the man at the press conference?

 

[Gardenlady]

Am so glad I missed the presser. I am furious just reading the descriptions here. :furious:

I didn't think I'd get so angry again so soon after Rebekah's murder, but the combined evil and seeming indifference of this perp and this local school district and LE have set me off yet again!

Unbelievable. WHY can't a young woman just be allowed to gt off the damn school bus and walk home safely?!

 

[Ransom]

Thank you Nurse....I felt like you and I were watching that presser "together"....I could feel the frustration and anger running flowing right between us. I am so glad you said you will keep her thread at the top. I was going to plead with everyone on here to please help her family all we can. I feel like they are not going to get anymore help than they have already and that makes me sick. I am certainly not as good as sleuthing as many of you but I will do what I can!

I'm the odd woman out again here... lol. I didn't get that from the presser. I got a tight lipped LEO who couldn't say what he wanted to. They KNOW something and aren't telling us. JMO. That's fine with me ... LE works in mysterious ways, to my addled brain.

The Texas Rangers were brought into this case asap. Glad for that. A small town needs help and they asked for it and got it.

I live in a neighboring state to Texas called New Mexico. Many, many times their AA comes across to NM.

JUST having a AA with African American, female, 16, "description of clothing" ... doesn't do much good, IMO. That could be thousands and thousands of kids. Earlier this year an AA from Texas came across to NM with car, license plate #, mom/child abduction. A good citizen of NM saw that car and called LE. The girl was found. You have to have more than just a description of a child. JMO, again.

Here's the Texas AA criteria:
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/dem/Operations/Alerts/AmberCriteria.htm

JMO and :twocents: Blessings to Alicia's family.

 

[Ransom]

I am not implying anything....her aunt said her uncle was home that afternoon and she never arrived. Is her her real uncle...the aunts husband? Was he the man in at the press conference?

Not that I saw ID by the press/anyone. I have no idea who the uncle may be. Not allowed to sleuth him.

Aunt and Friends
http://heraldbanner.com/topnews/x1501151654/GALLERY-Latest-photos

 

[scorekeeper]

This is not the news I wanted to here.....urgggggg
This has got to stop; our children can't even walk to (Jessica Ridgeway) school or home from school (Alicia).
I pray she did not suffer; I hope to God they find the dirtbag that did this unspeakable act....I am heartbroken for her family and friends...

RIP, Alicia.....

 

[watcher9]

I wonder if they have any other photos (off schoolbus) with any other camera angles. Also, a shot right before she stood up. We might be able to see out the windows of the bus to any pedestrians, cars etc. in the vicinity.

Just another thought.
I couldn't see if anything was in her right hand when she was getting off the bus because of the words inprinted on the photo.
I'm wondering if she had been looking or reading off her ipad on the bus and when she started walking home, she continued to read or look at it?
Not paying as much attention to her surroundings like some people do while texting on their phones? Can they play games on a school ipad? Someone could have seen her using the ipad and went for her because of it?

 

[Meri]

I did not catch the presser either.

I think the Aunt has FB on her phone and uses it a lot? If that is so , she would see anything any of her "friends, family....etc...." post. Not really stalking per se.

Also, how many kids are left on the bus after Alicia got dropped off? I wonder if any kids could have watched her for a bit longer than the only mentioned witness, the bus driver.

my gosh, it just seems so short a distance to be kidnapped.

I bet local. Also not leaning towards a kid. This had a truck IMO.

The friend said that the aunt's Facebook is set up so that every single post and entry that was on her niece's Facebook would automatically go right to her phone also.

 

[Meri]

I am not implying anything....her aunt said her uncle was home that afternoon and she never arrived. Is he her real uncle...the aunts husband? Was he the man at the press conference?

The man that spoke at the presser was a long-time friend. No other information about the uncle - he could have been seated with the mother, but I have no idea.

 

[Really?]

That is what facebook does

 

[Meri]

Just some wonderings/questions:

The aunt didn't expect Alicia home until AFTER her ACE program ended. Thus they didn't get worried until around 7:30 pm that Friday.

1) What happened to cause Alicia to come home early? Sick at school, etc?
2) Why didn't the Aunt know she was coming home early? Cell phone?
3) Alicia seemed like a loner. No mention of friends/extracurricular activities, etc.
4) Friday, Nov. 2nd was the end of the first marking period for grades.
http://schedules.schedulestar.com/Greenville-High-School-Greenville-MI/day/11-07-2012/

:waitasec:

They said that sometimes she would stay after school for the ACE program. It sounded like she would do this randomly and if she was later coming home they knew that's where she was? Once she didn't get home on the ACE bus, they knew something was wrong. And, you are correct - one of the ladies mentioned that she was very much a homebody, came right home, stayed home.

 

[Meri]

If she spent a lot of time alone in her room, she may have been spending a lot of time online, posting on FB or other forms of social media. Our young people naively give out too much info about themselves and their activities. And, there's always the chance that one of her online friends wasn't who he claimed to be. Even adults sometimes fall victim to this.

Again, her aunt would get every single post transferred to her phone directly.

 

[Really?]

They did say she was a shy girl. At 16 they are not going to fall for the lost puppy ruse. How could she be so close to home and never make it. A random stranger asking a question?

 

[Meri]

Not only that, she wasn't going to an empty house at least if reports are accurate. There was someone home.

Jumping off from your post, and sorry, venting for a minute (not towards you, towards what's apparently happened):

So does she walk a block to her own house, where someone's expecting her, or a block (or less?) to someone else's house, where people are expecting her, and then walk the remaining way to her own house at some later point? What kind of background check(s) should someone do on the residents and visitors of whoever's house it is she's temporarily waiting at? Or passers-by, or maintenance people, or people working on a house down the street, or of course there's always the mailman or the lawn care person, or the neighbor's lawn person, the new people on the street, or...?

:furious:

I swear I think the only "solution" I've seen suggested that might even work is hiring a body guard for every kid. And I know that's not remotely feasible for a ton of reasons. Can you imagine some of the sickos that would be applying for that job, getting paid to be alone with your child all the time? (Yes, I know some kids have private security guards but I tend to think they're heavily checked out and there aren't that many of them). Not to mention I think it'd really mess with the kid!

All IMO...

Grrrr sorry, done venting. I hope it's clear but just in case, I am not at all blaming the family. I so wish they could've gotten her back in their arms, but since they can't, I'm glad they seem to be fighting for justice for her, and not backing down.

Rest in peace Alicia. I am so sorry you're not here with us anymore, and I am hearbroken for your loved ones. Thank you for sharing your beautiful smile with the world.

I heard them say a half-block in the presser.

 

[Ransom]

They said that sometimes she would stay after school for the ACE program. It sounded like she would do this randomly and if she was later coming home they knew that's where she was? Once she didn't get home on the ACE bus, they knew something was wrong. And, you are correct - one of the ladies mentioned that she was very much a homebody, came right home, stayed home.

Again, odd woman out here ... not what I heard. Aunt said she DID go to ACE after school (which isn't an extracurricular activity ... it's academic). They DID expect her home around 7:30 ish and then got worried when she didn't arrive home on the ACE bus. I never heard it was random. JMO.

ETA: Her FAMILY didn't think it was "random" since they thought she wouldn't be home until around 7:30ish. Thus the alarm when she didn't show up.

 

[Meri]

His condolences didn't even seem at all heartfelt. He reminded me of a school superintendent who spoke to a school where I was working while my grandmother lay dying in the hospital and made some insensitive comment to the effect that it was inexcusable to take off for the funeral of some ancient relative. When I got home I broke down and bawled my eyes out. That came back to me when I heard Mr. Jefferies speak and felt so, so bad that Alicia's family had to listen to that.

I was about to reach into the screen and strangle him if he say "anyway!" one more time.

 

[nikb]

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Unbelievable. WHY can't a young woman just be allowed to gt off the damn school bus and walk home safely?!

Seriously! This is what has me so upset too. Just jumping off your post and I may need to go rake leaves like Nurse did...

It's not like Alicia was a toddler wandering around in the street alone for hours. It was a short walk and she was 16! I think in TX and I know in my state, she could've had a driver's license and driven herself to/from school if she had the means to do so. But she can't even take the school bus that drops her off a block from her house? (ETA: or half block?) She still should've been under 24/7 supervision? How about Whitney (another case I'm following) - at 21, she shouldn't have walked out to her car or driven a few miles to work "by herself?" There are so many "what if's" it's just mind boggling.

I know I'm over-sensitive to abductions in general since reading/posting here given that overall these cases are rare, but there are still way too many of them IMO, espcially given that one is too many. Girls/young women (or anyone or that matter) shouldn't be afraid to walk a block in their own neighborhood... IMO.

 

[nikb]

I heard them say a half-block in the presser.

Thanks Meri! That's what I thought too. I went back to the "block away" in my posts only because that's what I recall reading originally, but I agree I had the impression it was an even shorter distance than that.

 

[Ransom]

The friend said that the aunt's Facebook is set up so that every single post and entry that was on her niece's Facebook would automatically go right to her phone also.

I got that, BUT WHAT FB for Alicia? There isn't one, that I've found and I even looked through "cache".

??????????????

I found the Aunt's and it was posted way back on an earlier post. Did she mean they "share" the same FB account? OR did the family/aunt delete Alicia's right quick?
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