TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018

[MassGuy]

The grand jury will have the final say on charges, and they have the authority to upgrade them if they think it is justified. I hope she gets what she deserves, whether that’s manslaughter or murder charges.

 

[scarlettbones]

Do we know how long she had been living at the apts?

 

[Jax49]

FYI- This is CNN video where the family attorney mentions the noise complaints (starting around 3:17)

Another interesting bit of new info (at least to me) was the comment that he was not expecting anyone. About the 1:40 mark.

 

[Jax49]

Do we know how long she had been living at the apts?

IIRC, it was reported she'd been there one month.

ETA:

"The police officer was a tenant of the building for only about a month, the Morning News reported."

Amber Guyger, police officer named in Dallas fatal shooting, shot a suspect in 2017: report

 

[scarlettbones]

This was the only pic I could find of the parking garage. Can't tell if this is a camera or sprinkler??

 

[MassGuy]

The more I read about this case, the less I believe her narrative. You go to the wrong floor (ok, I’ve actually done that myself), but he had a mat outside, that she had to have noticed it. Two witnesses claimed that they heard banging (on the door) and yelling. If they’re being truthful I could see this as an argument turned deadly.

It’s possible her story is true, but making that determination is the difference between manslaughter and murder.

 

[scarlettbones]

IIRC, it was reported she'd been there one month.

ETA:

"The police officer was a tenant of the building for only about a month, the Morning News reported."

Amber Guyger, police officer named in Dallas fatal shooting, shot a suspect in 2017: report

Thanks!

If she hadn't been there that long, wouldn't she still have boxes, etc laying around? A just moved in apartment look so much different than a lived in one, even in a dim/dark apt. Idk, it takes me years to unpack, maybe that is just me

 

[Jax49]

This was the only pic I could find of the parking garage. Can't tell if this is a camera or sprinkler??

Nice find. I'd guess based on location it is a camera.

 

[scarlettbones]

That was my initial guess, it looks like there are several cameras located in common areas: the outside grill, gym, the lounge.

Here's the link to verify it is southside flats.
South Side Flats by Jefferson - JPI

 

[Gigglingtoes]

Snip:
Moments after an off-duty Dallas police officer shot and killed a man in his own apartment, firefighters were dispatched to the complex for a shooting by a security guard, not a police officer, according to hours of audio reviewed by this news agency, further clouding what Amber Guyger or witnesses may have initially told police last week.

“We now have you assigned to a gunshot,” a Dallas Fire Department dispatcher said over the radio to Rescue 4 at 10:02 p.m. Thursday. “A security guard just shot the patient, so go ahead and stand by.”

A call to the Dallas Police Association, the officer’s union, referred media inquiries to a public relations firm.

“The DPA is withholding any public comments on the incident until all the facts are known and the investigation is complete,” Brian Mayes of Mayes Media Group said. “You might try the Dallas Police Department for additional updates.” End Snip.

Dallas shooting: First call came for security guard shooting?

Oh that is not shady... I’m sorry I feel like that is just weird.

They knew when that call came in she wasn’t a freakin security guard.

Didn’t she get out of there by going with the fire dept or ambulance??

 

[Gigglingtoes]

People in the apartment complex say that you can't leave the doors ajar. They automatically close. Has the media covered that yet? I know I've seen it somewhere but I don't remember if I've seen someone deliberately TRY to leave it ajar.

Like hotel room doors close on their own too. However, if you hold onto it until it almost closes you can sometimes keep it from shutting. Or use the bar lock at the top to keep it ajar. Do these doors have that?

I feel like we all pretty much know Mr Jean didn’t leave his door “ajar.” That is the worst lie she probably has told so far.

Nobody in an apartment complex at 10 pm is leaving their door “ajar” in Dallas. (Big city life)

 

[Gigglingtoes]

I want to say, "Come on, neighbors, and speak up. Let's hear your outrage. Don't be afraid that the DPD will never respond to your needs. Bo needs your voices. He needs the people who live in that building and all the others like it to raise their voices. You can't let this stand."

Just saying. Go to twitter. At least one neighbor is speaking openly.

 

[Jax49]

S. Lee Merritt, Esq. on Twitter

If you are a resident of the @SouthSideFlatsD and hear anything on the night of September 6, 2018, we need to hear from you. Call the office or email.

 

[MassGuy]

I feel like we all pretty much know Mr Jean didn’t leave his door “ajar.” That is the worst lie she probably has told so far.

Nobody in an apartment complex at 10 pm is leaving their door “ajar” in Dallas. (Big city life)

Yeah. What are the odds she goes to the wrong floor and that door just happens to be ajar? Not buying it either.

 

[Gardenista]

From the Dallas Observer:

Jean's neighbor, a man who requested to be identified by his initials J.B., knew Jean well enough to say hello to the 26-year-old Harding University graduate. J.B. heard the shots as he was heading to his apartment.

“I stay on the fourth floor, directly across from what happened. I was walking back into the building … [as] soon as I put my key fob in through this door thing right here, walking down the hallway, that's when I heard the shots.”

After the shots, J.B. says things became quiet.

“I heard the shots, and then after that I went to my door and I didn't hear nothing else. So for me to hear the shots and then nothing else … it's like, 'What the hell was she in there doing?'

There wasn't any panic or nothing like 'I had killed the wrong guy' or 'I'm in the wrong spot.' Like, 'I just did it.'”



J.B. says he didn't know a police officer lived in his building.

TY for this. Now we know she wasn't in the hallway when she shot him.

 

[Jennifer17]

2TY for this. Now we know she wasn't in the hallway when she shot him.

No, we don't know that.

 

[Gardenista]

No, we don't know that.

He said he lives across the hall and as soon as he put the key in the door he heard the shots. If she was in the hallway, he would have seen the shooting occur.

 

[Jennifer17]

He said he lives across the hall and as soon as he put the key in the door he heard the shots. iIf she was in the hallway, he would have seen the shooting occur.

So what are you implying? That she was actually in his apartment? She entered his apartment? Which she had no right to do.

 

[Jim G]

I feel like we all pretty much know Mr Jean didn’t leave his door “ajar.” That is the worst lie she probably has told so far.

Nobody in an apartment complex at 10 pm is leaving their door “ajar” in Dallas. (Big city life)

"Nobody" in a city of a coupla million leaves their door ajar at night??

 

[Jim G]

Heartbreaking on all sides