TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018

[Jennifer17]

"Nobody" in a city of a coupla million leaves their door ajar at night??

No, especially when the said door is a self closing door.

 

[Gardenista]

So what are you implying? That she was actually in his apartment? She entered his apartment? Which she had no right to do.

I'm not implying anything. I was just saying now we know she was not in the hallway.

 

[Jennifer17]

Heartbreaking on all sides

Far more heart breaking for his family who will never see their son again. Not heart breaking for her.

 

[Jennifer17]

I'm not implying anything. I was just saying now we know she was not in the hallway.

So where was she? And what was she doing in a home that was not hers? That opens many questions. When she was yelling 'Let me in' did he let her in? And then she shot him twice in the chest?
Her story is ridiculous.

 

[Jim G]

The only explanation which makes any sense is the one AG provided

 

[Jennifer17]

The only explanation which makes any sense is the one AG provided

Which story is that? The first one or the edited one?

 

[Suwannee]

TY for this. Now we know she wasn't in the hallway when she shot him.

I think you are right.
The front door swings inward and is spring-loaded. IMO, to reach and unholster her service revolver and aim, at least a foot would have had to pry the door open. Unless she wears size 20 shoe (“clown shoes”), how in the world could she discharge her weapon so accurately without being inside? That door would have swung back on her.

 

[Gardenista]

So where was she? And what was she doing in a home that was not hers? That opens many questions. When she was yelling 'Let me in' did he let her in? And then she shot him twice in the chest?
Her story is ridiculous.

I'm only talking about if the shooting was in the hallway vs inside the apt part of the case.

 

[jjenny]

I'm not implying anything. I was just saying now we know she was not in the hallway.

I don't think you can make this kind of claim (we know this or that) based on what witnesses have been saying. I don't see a lot of consistency in what has been said by various witnesses. Some claim to have heard various statements made before or after the shooting, some just heard a shot and nothing before that.

 

[jjenny]

I'm pretty sure the article said the complaint came from her apartment.

"Merritt did reveal that the same day as the shooting, someone in the apartment immediately below Jean’s — which happens to be Guyger’s place of residence — made a noise complaint about Jean’s apartment; furthermore, he said, it was not the first noise complaint."

Everything We Know About the Off-Duty Cop Who Shot and Killed Her Black Neighbor

This is a very vague statement. I have a lot of questions about alleged noise complaint. To whom was this complaint made? If Amber was at work for 12-15 hours, who made the complaint if it was made? Seems like it wasn't her? Was there somebody else in her apartment? Was the complaint made from a different apartment? Why some of the other neighbors say victim was quiet, yet apparently there were numerous noise complaints made if they were?

 

[Suwannee]

This is a very vague statement. I have a lot of questions about alleged noise complaint. To whom was this complaint made? If Amber was at work for 12-15 hours, who made the complaint if it was made? Seems like it wasn't her? Was there somebody else in her apartment? Was the complaint made from a different apartment? Why some of the other neighbors say victim was quiet, yet apparently there were numerous noise complaints made if they were?

Is it possible that AG called the apartment office (identifying herself herself as the resident in apt. 1378) during her morning/afternoon work break to lodge a noise complaint after the apartment office opened?

 

[mickey2942]

There is so much about this situation that does not add up to me. If I lived in Dallas, I would be out marching, in a peaceful protest.

I really like how folks were demonstrating, peacefully, and the police shot pepper bullets at the crowd. So much for freedom of speech, and freedom of assembly.

The longer Dallas PD supports this killer, the more confusing the situation is to me. At this point, I completely agree with Botham's family, that they need to be held accountable. Why haven't they stated that they do not support her actions? That she was off duty? Blue wall of silence.

 

[jjenny]

Is it possible that AG called the apartment office (identifying herself herself as the resident in apt. 1378) during her morning/afternoon work break to lodge a noise complaint after the apartment office opened?

If it was an official complaint made to the office seems like lawyer would have made a more definite statement. As it is he didn't say who (the person) made a complain and to whom it was made.

 

[Suwannee]

If it was an official complaint made to the office seems like lawyer would have made a more definite statement. As it is he didn't say who (the person) made a complain and to whom it was made.

That makes sense.

 

[jjenny]

If it could be verified that AG made a noise complaint against the victim that could put big holes in her story that she didn't know she was in his apartment and provide an actual motive. Not convinced at this point because laywer's statement was very vague.

 

[Rocco]

I think you are right.
The front door swings inward and is spring-loaded. IMO, to reach and unholster her service revolver and aim, at least a foot would have had to pry the door open. Unless she wears size 20 shoe (“clown shoes”), how in the world could she discharge her weapon so accurately without being inside? That door would have swung back on her.

I think she was in the doorway, not the hallway.

 

[Rocco]

If it could be verified that AG made a noise complaint against the victim that could put big holes in her story that she didn't know she was in his apartment and provide an actual motive. Not convinced at this point because laywer's statement was very vague.

I don't think a noisy neighbor of one month is motive to kill someone and give up your career. Besides, why did she have to go check the door number when she called 911 if she knew where she was at?

 

[jjenny]

I don't think a noisy neighbor of one month is motive to kill someone and give up your career. Besides, why did she have to go check the door number when she called 911 if she knew where she was at?

If she is upset at the noise (that's a big IF) then I can envision that after coming back home after a long day of work, and there is still noise, that could make a person very angry. People have been killed over noise disputes-just do some googling. Or I can post links. Not that I am convinced of anything like this happening in this case.

 

[TinaG]

If it could be verified that AG made a noise complaint against the victim that could put big holes in her story that she didn't know she was in his apartment and provide an actual motive. Not convinced at this point because laywer's statement was very vague.

Maybe lawyer has to hold some cards close to the vest

Years ago I had a downstairs neighbor that made a complaint every time I used my vacuum cleaner!

 

[Suwannee]

I don't think a noisy neighbor of one month is motive to kill someone and give up your career. Besides, why did she have to go check the door number when she called 911 if she knew where she was at?

I would hope not; IMO, that kind of anger after one month would indicate such a short fuse. I would question someone’s ability to serve and protect the citizens of Dallas after displaying such character.
In terms of the validity of her claim to checking the door number, to me her narrative(s) is speculative.
I pray that forensics leaves no room for speculation, that Botham’s family gets justice and AG serves maximum time as a result of her actions.