MsMarpleTX
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HELLO! First post on WS. Bumping Brandi’s thread bc I live in the area she went missing from and was close to her age and frequented this bar a lot before and after her disappearance. I was away at college during the time she went missing but her case really struck a nerve with me. A few insights I have about the discussions I’ve read on here
1) I don’t find it THAT odd that she went to a bar an hour or less from home with no money, gas or plan. My parents lived about 45 mins from the club and when I went home to visit I would frequently drive that far to go to Graham’s, especially on ladies night.... even though Tyler was slightly closer. Tyler has a different crowd and vibe and I just liked Longview better. Cover was free and they had $0.50 drinks. It was always super crowded and the radio was always advertising it. I can’t recall another bar in the area.... not even in Tyler that did as much radio advertising as Graham’s so it was something you heard about every time you got in the car. I would go by myself often and meet up with friends but often with get there earlier or stay later than the people I went to meet. Maybe I was young and stupid but it felt safe. Always tons of security and cops. There was even security in at least one golf cart riding around the parking lot. The bar tenders were always good about handing the drinks directly to the person drinking it..... not who was paying. Especially on those cheap drink nights. You typically couldn’t go order multiple drinks and carry them away. They wanted to put one drink per one person.... I always thought it was so they wouldn’t get in trouble for over serving bc TABC was always on the clubs butt about not over serving. So I felt safe and secure there.
2)Not EVERYONE scanned their IDs. There was typically someone checking ids at the door to make sure you were old enough to enter. Then you went to a counter to swipe your ID and pay. I saw and experienced many regulars walk right in without ever going to the counter. The bar had tons of employees especially on ladies night and it’s not far fetched that people could have walked in without swiping or being seen on camera.
3)The cameras were very visible and many people knew where they were and how to avoid being on them. There were always drunken fights there and people would be able to fight without being on camera..... I even heard a married lady once say she knew where the were and she would go on crowded nights to meet up with her “other” men so her husband wouldn’t find out or people drinking underage knew where they could sip their drink without being on camera. So if you were in there for illegal/immoral activity, it wouldn’t be hard to avoid them.
3) I would go as far as to say half of the men in that club had on cowboy hats. Most clubs wouldn’t allow baseball hats so any dude wanting to cover his hairline or identity could be wearing a cowboy hat.
4) It was always common for people to leave Graham’s after their fill of cheap drinks and go to another bar, a house party, Shreveport (the casinos are open 24/7 and are an hours drive) or go to the local strip clubs bc they were open later than the bars and would have similar “ladies night” specials..... you couldn’t leave Graham’s without someone inviting you to SOME after hours activities. So I wonder if she was invited somewhere.
5) I find it odd that no one would offer to help her if she was low on gas. It’s a “good ole boy” town and area and I feel like if she would have asked, someone would have offered to help her with gas. My car battery was dead one night when I went to leave and one of the security guards was happy to jump me off as soon he over heard me telling my friend about the issue.
6)The area her phone was supposedly found in has a lot of random people walking around..... a lot of uneducated/homeless/drug involved people.... even more so in 2006. It’s not too far fetched that if someone tossed her phone and it was found by someone in that area and they traded it, gave it, sold it to someone that didn’t think twice before using it.... due to their own ignorance.
7) also in reference to the phone, as someone who has lived in the area, I hate to mention race but Graham’s was not a hang out for black men like the the man who ended up with her phone. It has gotten better in Longview but at that time I feel like it would be insane for a black man to be knowingly using some missing white girls phone. I feel like even if she broke down in that area where her phone was found they would be wanting to get some random white girl OUT of the area.... as to not call attention to that area due to all the activities that used to..... and still do go on to some extent in that area. I just don’t see those people with her phone or anyone that they would associate with being involved.
8) and speaking on race, as busy as that club was..... it was mostly white males with a few Hispanic males..... it was said that most of the Hispanic males that frequented that club were gang affiliated and sold cocaine and so I guess that provides some criminal element but I just always thought of that as something these poor white guys made up to scare the girls away from the good looking Latinos with the coke.
9) the gangs in the “white” community were rampant at that time. They were the ones thought and rumored to be involved in human trafficking. As sad as it sounds, I feel like if she left with a black or Hispanic male, SOME backwoods country dude would have noticed and made comments. Racism was horrible then ( I like to think it’s gotten better) and at this country backwoods bar.... someone would have had SOMETHING to say about her leaving with someone outside her race.
IMOO I just feel like it was a random county looking white guy that saw an opportunity and took it knowing he would go unnoticed leaving with her.
I think about Brandi every time I drive by the club. It’s since been bought and remodeled but the crowd is the same. I pray she is FOUND safe. Because of her, I am more careful about my surroundings.
1) I don’t find it THAT odd that she went to a bar an hour or less from home with no money, gas or plan. My parents lived about 45 mins from the club and when I went home to visit I would frequently drive that far to go to Graham’s, especially on ladies night.... even though Tyler was slightly closer. Tyler has a different crowd and vibe and I just liked Longview better. Cover was free and they had $0.50 drinks. It was always super crowded and the radio was always advertising it. I can’t recall another bar in the area.... not even in Tyler that did as much radio advertising as Graham’s so it was something you heard about every time you got in the car. I would go by myself often and meet up with friends but often with get there earlier or stay later than the people I went to meet. Maybe I was young and stupid but it felt safe. Always tons of security and cops. There was even security in at least one golf cart riding around the parking lot. The bar tenders were always good about handing the drinks directly to the person drinking it..... not who was paying. Especially on those cheap drink nights. You typically couldn’t go order multiple drinks and carry them away. They wanted to put one drink per one person.... I always thought it was so they wouldn’t get in trouble for over serving bc TABC was always on the clubs butt about not over serving. So I felt safe and secure there.
2)Not EVERYONE scanned their IDs. There was typically someone checking ids at the door to make sure you were old enough to enter. Then you went to a counter to swipe your ID and pay. I saw and experienced many regulars walk right in without ever going to the counter. The bar had tons of employees especially on ladies night and it’s not far fetched that people could have walked in without swiping or being seen on camera.
3)The cameras were very visible and many people knew where they were and how to avoid being on them. There were always drunken fights there and people would be able to fight without being on camera..... I even heard a married lady once say she knew where the were and she would go on crowded nights to meet up with her “other” men so her husband wouldn’t find out or people drinking underage knew where they could sip their drink without being on camera. So if you were in there for illegal/immoral activity, it wouldn’t be hard to avoid them.
3) I would go as far as to say half of the men in that club had on cowboy hats. Most clubs wouldn’t allow baseball hats so any dude wanting to cover his hairline or identity could be wearing a cowboy hat.
4) It was always common for people to leave Graham’s after their fill of cheap drinks and go to another bar, a house party, Shreveport (the casinos are open 24/7 and are an hours drive) or go to the local strip clubs bc they were open later than the bars and would have similar “ladies night” specials..... you couldn’t leave Graham’s without someone inviting you to SOME after hours activities. So I wonder if she was invited somewhere.
5) I find it odd that no one would offer to help her if she was low on gas. It’s a “good ole boy” town and area and I feel like if she would have asked, someone would have offered to help her with gas. My car battery was dead one night when I went to leave and one of the security guards was happy to jump me off as soon he over heard me telling my friend about the issue.
6)The area her phone was supposedly found in has a lot of random people walking around..... a lot of uneducated/homeless/drug involved people.... even more so in 2006. It’s not too far fetched that if someone tossed her phone and it was found by someone in that area and they traded it, gave it, sold it to someone that didn’t think twice before using it.... due to their own ignorance.
7) also in reference to the phone, as someone who has lived in the area, I hate to mention race but Graham’s was not a hang out for black men like the the man who ended up with her phone. It has gotten better in Longview but at that time I feel like it would be insane for a black man to be knowingly using some missing white girls phone. I feel like even if she broke down in that area where her phone was found they would be wanting to get some random white girl OUT of the area.... as to not call attention to that area due to all the activities that used to..... and still do go on to some extent in that area. I just don’t see those people with her phone or anyone that they would associate with being involved.
8) and speaking on race, as busy as that club was..... it was mostly white males with a few Hispanic males..... it was said that most of the Hispanic males that frequented that club were gang affiliated and sold cocaine and so I guess that provides some criminal element but I just always thought of that as something these poor white guys made up to scare the girls away from the good looking Latinos with the coke.
9) the gangs in the “white” community were rampant at that time. They were the ones thought and rumored to be involved in human trafficking. As sad as it sounds, I feel like if she left with a black or Hispanic male, SOME backwoods country dude would have noticed and made comments. Racism was horrible then ( I like to think it’s gotten better) and at this country backwoods bar.... someone would have had SOMETHING to say about her leaving with someone outside her race.
IMOO I just feel like it was a random county looking white guy that saw an opportunity and took it knowing he would go unnoticed leaving with her.
I think about Brandi every time I drive by the club. It’s since been bought and remodeled but the crowd is the same. I pray she is FOUND safe. Because of her, I am more careful about my surroundings.