Maybe he was using his phone for light?
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Maybe he was using his phone for light?
That's a possibility. I was just thinking if he were trying to hide from someone the bridge would be a bad option. It seems rather long according to what I can see and the entire time he would be crossing it there would be nowhere for him to hide from anyone.
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I don't find that odd. I would think they would want the closest LEO to respond in case someone was hurt or needed help for some reason. If there were no state troopers close enough, and these deputies were a lot closer, it isn't out of the ordinary for them to respond. Sometimes when there has been a major accident on the highway, you will see sheriff's deputies as well as state troopers and even city cops there, if it is a multi-vehicle accident. All LE agencies work together... or should, anyway.
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Interesting about the Geo youth prison. It's almost exactly 3 miles from the truck heading into Bronte. There has been lots of scandal around the prison and it was shut down in 2007. I'm unsure if it ever reopened but it is on the current list of Texas prisons.
I found this:
The Coke County Juvenile Justice Center in Bronte, Texas has faced a series of lawsuits for rape and molestation charges. When escapes take place (and they take place often), guards are usually found to have aided them. Privatized prison guards aren’t sworn police officers either, so when riots do take place it’s no surprise they don’t risk their lives interfering.
I could totally see Brandon saying
Escapers pushed some guards over
I don't know how Brandon could have made it that far on foot given the timeline unless he left his house earlier than reported. We have assumed that Brandon called Kyle right when he ran out of gas but he could have called him later when he got into trouble. If Brandon's call to Kyle was similar to what he said to the 911 dispatcher imagine Kyle's confusion.
Is the Geo Youth Correction Center currently open? That is a very good question. And given it's very scandalous past, an incident there would probably be hush hush.
ETA: Its called Wackenhut (old name) aka Coke County Correctional Center or Juvenile Justice
I found this:
The Coke County Juvenile Justice Center in Bronte, Texas has faced a series of lawsuits for rape and molestation charges. When escapes take place (and they take place often), guards are usually found to have aided them. Privatized prison guards aren’t sworn police officers either, so when riots do take place it’s no surprise they don’t risk their lives interfering.
I could totally see Brandon saying
Escapers pushed some guards over
I don't know how Brandon could have made it that far on foot given the timeline unless he left his house earlier than reported. We have assumed that Brandon called Kyle right when he ran out of gas but he could have called him later when he got into trouble. If Brandon's call to Kyle was similar to what he said to the 911 dispatcher imagine Kyle's confusion.
Is the Geo Youth Correction Center currently open? That is a very good question. And given it's very scandalous past, an incident there would probably be hush hush.
ETA: Its called Wackenhut (old name) aka Coke County Correctional Center or Juvenile Justice
The map really puts it into perspective, doesn't it? I imagine it's completely pitch black out there, a phone light probably wouldn't be that helpful and the battery would probably die before the 3 mile point.
I'm actually having dreams about this case now :facepalm:
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Yes it does! Great map, thanks techpuppy!!
I dreamt about it last night too! Maybe it's Brandon coming to us in our dreams trying to help us solve the mystery?
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I still can't find anything saying whether the correctional facility ever re-opened. There is big $$ and lots of scandal around that facility. I did find this statement by Geo regarding the closure in 2007. Does anyone know? Locals?
"We are disappointed in the Texas Youth Commission's decision to discontinue our contract at the Coke County Juvenile Justice Center," GEO Chief Executive Officer George Zoley said in a release. "We have provided quality detention services at the center for thirteen years. We will be marketing the available beds at the center to state and federal detention agencies around the country."
"We are disappointed in the Texas Youth Commission's decision to discontinue our contract at the Coke County Juvenile Justice Center," GEO Chief Executive Officer George Zoley said in a release. "We have provided quality detention services at the center for thirteen years. We will be marketing the available beds at the center to state and federal detention agencies around the country."
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escapers? I am not sure I have ever even heard that word used by anyone. It gave me a chuckle but as someone who is following but not commenting much, I think new theories, ideas and insight are all great! But... "escapers"? I hear "staters" without a doubt.
Of this discussion. If you will notice when u post it numbers it. Sorry
So BL went missing between San Angelo and bronte? Or the other side? Of bronte.
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Just curious
Why did Kyle go ck on LL? After BL left?
Where exactly was his truck? I've seen south north here and there
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techpuppy just posted a wonderful map showing the exact location of the truck. SOUTH of Bronte.
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I don't think I've ever heard the word "staters" used. To me it sounds most like a skyper perched/pushed some guys/guards/gods over.
And I have listened more times than you can imagine. Yesterday I slowed the file way way down and played around with pitch, tempo and speed.
My nephew lives in East Texas and I asked him if he'd ever heard anyone call State Troopers "Staters" and FWIW he said no.
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Some details of the searches can be found at this link. I know I've read that sometimes HR (cadaver) dogs are trained with pigs/pig blood. Was this "slight interest" Brandon? Brandon's blood? This must be where the comment about the hogs blood in the Observer originated. According to this article it seems to be unknown whether it could have been Brandon vs a hog.
The TexSAR canines are highly trained. These HR dogs will not “hit” on varmint carcasses. However, dead hogs sometimes prove a distraction to HR animals. Each handler wears a gps device which provided an extremely detailed analysis of all area covered.
The search was extended to the northeast following one HR dog showing slight interest. However even with the extension, the search revealed no sign of Brandon Lawson – no remains, no clothing, no wallet, no cell phone, and no keys.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1069759?ref=feeds/latest
The TexSAR canines are highly trained. These HR dogs will not “hit” on varmint carcasses. However, dead hogs sometimes prove a distraction to HR animals. Each handler wears a gps device which provided an extremely detailed analysis of all area covered.
The search was extended to the northeast following one HR dog showing slight interest. However even with the extension, the search revealed no sign of Brandon Lawson – no remains, no clothing, no wallet, no cell phone, and no keys.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1069759?ref=feeds/latest
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Updated timeline to add LL report on facebook of 911 call by passing motorist. Here she gives the call time of 12:40am. Sanangelolive reports it as 12:58am. Were there 2 calls?
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Txnana64, that would be referred to here as the post #. (Just in case you want to reference other post #'s in the future) I brought that post forward. It is part 2 of the Blogtalk radio interview with LL.
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I think I definitely hear the word starting with a s or c the 'sssss' sound and also hear a 'p' sound in there with a 'er' sound at the end.
It sounds just like "Sy-per" The second word sounds like "percherd".
But that makes no sense. So I keep wondering.
I wish I could play around with the recording some, but I'm not sure how to.
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Coke County Juvenile Justice Center
On October 2, 2007, we received a notice of termination of our contract with the Texas Youth Commission for the housing of juvenile inmates at our 200-bed Coke County Juvenile Justice Center located in Bronte, Texas. We formerly leased the facility under the terms of an agreement with Coke County. On March 17, 2008, we purchased the land and the existing facility from Coke County at a cost of $3.2 million, terminating any further obligations of the Company under the lease. We intend to retain the facility and the related land for future business purposes and has renamed the facility Oak Creek Confinement Center.
On October 2, 2007, we received a notice of termination of our contract with the Texas Youth Commission for the housing of juvenile inmates at our 200-bed Coke County Juvenile Justice Center located in Bronte, Texas. We formerly leased the facility under the terms of an agreement with Coke County. On March 17, 2008, we purchased the land and the existing facility from Coke County at a cost of $3.2 million, terminating any further obligations of the Company under the lease. We intend to retain the facility and the related land for future business purposes and has renamed the facility Oak Creek Confinement Center.
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You have to have an audio editing program. There are several free ones. I use audacity.
Like another poster, I've heard "stater" used before in the south to describe State Trooper, but not very frequently.
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