Found Deceased TX - Caleb Harris, 21, Texas A&M University student, Corpus Christi, 4 Mar 2024 #4

[acutename]

Replying to myself here - I see I Caleb’s missing persons flyer that he is 5’11 and 130 pounds. So even slimmer than I thought. If the pipe did have a circumference of 78”, the only thing that could possibility get him stuck is 1) wide shoulders or 2) attempting to crouch/bend.

180lbs - 130 at 5' 11" is near death

CCPD detectives searching for missing TAMUCC student​

KRIS 6 News Corpus Christi
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Mar 5, 2024 — Caleb Harris is approximately 5 ft. 11 in. tall, weighting about 180 lbs. with brown hair and eyes. He left behind his keys, car and wallet and ...

 

[kuromiiiilove]

180lbs - 130 at 5' 11" is near death
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CCPD detectives searching for missing TAMUCC student​

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KRIS 6 News Corpus Christi
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Mar 5, 2024 — Caleb Harris is approximately 5 ft. 11 in. tall, weighting about 180 lbs. with brown hair and eyes. He left behind his keys, car and wallet and ...

Hah, sorry about that - my astigmatism coming into play!

 

[PommyMommy]

JUL 31, 2024

Caleb Harris memorial set up near area where he sent last Snapchat

Flowers, crosses, candles and fishing poles can be found off a small bridge off of Ennis Joslin weeks after his body was identified by authorities.

www.kiiitv.com

he Corpus Christi community is continuing to show an outpouring of support for Caleb Harris and his family, creating another memorial in his honor.

Flowers, crosses, candles and fishing poles can be found off a small bridge off of Ennis Joslin Road, the location where Corpus Christi Police Department officials have said he sent his last Snapchat photo at 3:03 a.m. to a friend.

 

[Muddy K]

And I think it should remain active. Ever since the remains were discovered in the lift station, when it seemed all but certain that they would be identified as Caleb's, I had been trying to understand how he could have ended up in that tank, and I could envision a couple of scenarios.

For me, and JMO, after the positive ID and discussion by LE of the open manhole in the crop field, the mystery has only intensified. What happened to Caleb?

Complete accident? Backing up to take a photo in a scrubby field around 3:00 a.m. or some such thing, and, whoosh, the ground beneath just isn't there.

Misadventure? Voluntarily deciding to go urban spelunking around 3:00 a.m., or some such thing, in an open manhole and, whoosh, some kind of fatal miscalculation occurs.

Foul play? Engaging in a meet-up around 3:00 a.m., or some such thing, and, whoosh, consent turns to attack and a body needs to be dumped.

Not one of these scenarios is more likely than the others, IMO. What they all have in common are the freakishly high odds that any one of them could and did occur.

Are there any other possible scenarios I've overlooked?

I'm replying to one of my own posts because, while continuing to brood over Caleb's terrible fate, I realized that, in addition to the three scenarios I posited above - accident, misadventure, foul play - and then the theory I added in a later post that he might have been found in the lift station tank because he'd been there all along, there was one other possibility that I overlooked: suicide.

IMO, suicide is just as far fetched as any of the other scenarios, but even so, I'm surprised I overlooked it.

The fact is, one of these four scenarios has to be the likely explanation for Caleb's death. They all lead to the same outcome, but - JMO - they all feel so different from each other.

 

[marloweclover]

This one bothers me. Is it possible to fall in a manhole, knock yourself out, and drown without recovering consciousness? I suppose. But what are the odds? I've been out on a foggy night many times. Fog is reflective, ime. You can't see anything 10 feet in front of you, or if you use a flashlight, but your own feet beneath you remain quite clear. If you were running at high speed, maybe. But why would you be doing that?

 

[SMK777]

This one bothers me. Is it possible to fall in a manhole, knock yourself out, and drown without recovering consciousness? I suppose. But what are the odds? I've been out on a foggy night many times. Fog is reflective, ime. You can't see anything 10 feet in front of you, or if you use a flashlight, but your own feet beneath you remain quite clear. If you were running at high speed, maybe. But why would you be doing that?

The only thing I can think of is that fog might make you mistake where you are, and what direction you’re headed in. He may have thought he was somewhere else, headed back to the apartments. Especially if in addition to the extreme fog he was under the influence of something.

 

[Bigditch]

I'm confused too. Where is the c-phone? Obviously it was tracked to that area by the tech sleuths in Fla., electronics do not just dissolve.

 

[Sundog]

This one bothers me. Is it possible to fall in a manhole, knock yourself out, and drown without recovering consciousness? I suppose. But what are the odds? I've been out on a foggy night many times. Fog is reflective, ime. You can't see anything 10 feet in front of you, or if you use a flashlight, but your own feet beneath you remain quite clear. If you were running at high speed, maybe. But why would you be doing that?

I don't remember what kind of farming they did in that field, but I thought they mentioned that it was an agriculture area/farming was done there. So if there was stubble around an open manhole, then he wouldn't have known it was there.

 

[flowershop]

CH's cause of death is undetermined according to the Medical Examiner. He did not have drugs or alcohol in his system.

Caleb Harris' cause of death 'undetermined,' according to autopsy report

The Nueces County Medical Examiner lists the manner in which Harris died as “undetermined,” saying there does not appear to be any evidence of a traumatic injury.

www.khou.com

 

[MassGuy]

CH's cause of death is undetermined according to the Medical Examiner. He did not have drugs or alcohol in his system.

Caleb Harris' cause of death 'undetermined,' according to autopsy report

The Nueces County Medical Examiner lists the manner in which Harris died as “undetermined,” saying there does not appear to be any evidence of a traumatic injury.

www.khou.com

Enduring mystery it seems. Hopefully we learn more, but I doubt we'll ever have any clear answer here as to how this happened.

 

[Rosydecember]

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CH's cause of death is undetermined according to the Medical Examiner. He did not have drugs or alcohol in his system.

Caleb Harris' cause of death 'undetermined,' according to autopsy report

The Nueces County Medical Examiner lists the manner in which Harris died as “undetermined,” saying there does not appear to be any evidence of a traumatic injury.

www.khou.com

Contrary to that Gray Hughes guy or whatever his name is. Glad the truth came out on that part.

 

[GMS]

Enduring mystery it seems. Hopefully we learn more, but I doubt we'll ever have any clear answer here as to how this happened.

In reviewing the article on what autopsy information was shared, there are a couple excerpts (bbm) I'm curious about and how fellow sleuthers may interpret them.

"The Nueces County Medical Examiner lists the manner in which Harris died as “undetermined” but has said there does not appear to be any evidence of a homicide or traumatic injury."

In the above excerpt, it seems (imo) that a fall into the manhole would have potentially caused some traumatic injury; ie. head injury, broken bones, etc.

The report states that the condition of the remains, which the report states were "nearly complete."

In the above excerpt, does this mean or imply the remains were nearly complete (meaning whole) or am I reading this wrong - not to be graphic or insensitive, but there had been speculation the body had severe decomposition and may have not been intact.

 

[MassGuy]

In reviewing the article on what autopsy information was shared, there are a couple excerpts (bbm) I'm curious about and how fellow sleuthers may interpret them.

"The Nueces County Medical Examiner lists the manner in which Harris died as “undetermined” but has said there does not appear to be any evidence of a homicide or traumatic injury."

In the above excerpt, it seems (imo) that a fall into the manhole would have potentially caused some traumatic injury; ie. head injury, broken bones, etc.

The report states that the condition of the remains, which the report states were "nearly complete."

In the above excerpt, does this mean or imply the remains were nearly complete (meaning whole) or am I reading this wrong - not to be graphic or insensitive, but there had been speculation the body had severe decomposition and may have not been intact.

You can be knocked unconscious without fracturing your skull, and a lack of soft tissue could then prevent you from even knowing if someone suffered a head injury. I think he may have drowned, either while conscious or otherwise (hopefully it was the former).

The report says that his body was in an "advanced state of decomposition and skeletonization," so I imagine they're missing some bones.

 

[mlhenn]

How Caleb Harris Died Can't Be Determined and He Had Decomposed to a Skeleton in Sewer System: Autopsy

Authorities have released Caleb Harris' autopsy report but say that his cause of death "cannot be determined with certainty," citing, in part, the fact that he had decomposed to a skeleton by the time he was found in a sewer system in Corpus Christi, Texas.

people.com

In the autopsy report, which was obtained by PEOPLE, authorities said that at the time his remains were found, they were already in an "advanced state of decomposition and skeletonization."

“While no significant traumatic injuries are identified, the condition of the remains could have obscured subtle injuries and/or additional significant natural disease,” the medical examiners wrote, noting that his toxicology analysis came back negative.

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About 600 feet from there (bridge), investigators found a manhole, Breedlove said, noting that its cover "had been knocked aside."

Although he couldn't say for certain how Harris entered the manhole, Breedlove said police do believe that the open manhole was Harris' point of access into the sewer system.

 

[slowpoke]

Some of what I got from this video:

Partially skeletonized young adult male
Majority of the organs were absent. Ones they were able to recover were kidney and adrenal glands.
Clothing consistent with what we’ve seen Caleb was wearing

Caleb Harris autopsy report released

3NEWS obtained the official Nueces County Medical Examiner's Office report Tuesday. Anchor Mike Gillaspia explains what it means.

www.kiiitv.com

 

[branmuffin]

And I think it should remain active. Ever since the remains were discovered in the lift station, when it seemed all but certain that they would be identified as Caleb's, I had been trying to understand how he could have ended up in that tank, and I could envision a couple of scenarios.

For me, and JMO, after the positive ID and discussion by LE of the open manhole in the crop field, the mystery has only intensified. What happened to Caleb?

Complete accident? Backing up to take a photo in a scrubby field around 3:00 a.m. or some such thing, and, whoosh, the ground beneath just isn't there.

Misadventure? Voluntarily deciding to go urban spelunking around 3:00 a.m., or some such thing, in an open manhole and, whoosh, some kind of fatal miscalculation occurs.

Foul play? Engaging in a meet-up around 3:00 a.m., or some such thing, and, whoosh, consent turns to attack and a body needs to be dumped.

Not one of these scenarios is more likely than the others, IMO. What they all have in common are the freakishly high odds that any one of them could and did occur.

Are there any other possible scenarios I've overlooked?

How about someone just falling in a hole in the middle of a field at 3 am in the morning with no ambient light close by? Was he meeting someone or was he coming back from meeting someone? We'll never know.

 

[Sundog]

How Caleb Harris Died Can't Be Determined and He Had Decomposed to a Skeleton in Sewer System: Autopsy

Authorities have released Caleb Harris' autopsy report but say that his cause of death "cannot be determined with certainty," citing, in part, the fact that he had decomposed to a skeleton by the time he was found in a sewer system in Corpus Christi, Texas.

people.com

In the autopsy report, which was obtained by PEOPLE, authorities said that at the time his remains were found, they were already in an "advanced state of decomposition and skeletonization."

“While no significant traumatic injuries are identified, the condition of the remains could have obscured subtle injuries and/or additional significant natural disease,” the medical examiners wrote, noting that his toxicology analysis came back negative.

…..

About 600 feet from there (bridge), investigators found a manhole, Breedlove said, noting that its cover "had been knocked aside."

Although he couldn't say for certain how Harris entered the manhole, Breedlove said police do believe that the open manhole was Harris' point of access into the sewer system.

Would the toxicology analysis be accurate with the amount of time that had gone by since Caleb went missing, and also with the condition of the remains at the time of autopsy?

 

[Sundog]

How about someone just falling in a hole in the middle of a field at 3 am in the morning with no ambient light close by? Was he meeting someone or was he coming back from meeting someone? We'll never know.

I think it's likely that something out that way caught Caleb's attention as good subject matter for a photograph that he wanted to send to a friend. We know he sent a photo to a friend around 3:00 am. that morning, a photo of the bridge on a foggy night. It had some kind of meaning to Caleb and his friend, perhaps a joke, perhaps something else. Caleb may have wandered over to the field to take another photo that he thought would be interesting in some way.

 

[branmuffin]

I think it's likely that something out that way caught Caleb's attention as good subject matter for a photograph that he wanted to send to a friend. We know he sent a photo to a friend around 3:00 am. that morning, a photo of the bridge on a foggy night. It had some kind of meaning to Caleb and his friend, perhaps a joke, perhaps something else. Caleb may have wandered over to the field to take another photo that he thought would be interesting in some way.

The manhole cover wasn't near the bridge it was about 110 feet from the sidewalk in the field. I doubt he saw something that he wanted to take a pic of with it being foggy. I believe he purposely left the sidewalk and purposely walked into the field. Nobody knows why or where he was going. I'm not sure what type of manhole that was but sewer gases can be fatal if inhaled since they contain methane, hydrogen chloride and ammonia which could overcome someone fairly quickly so that even if they survived the fall they wouldn't be able to call out for help.

 

[Sundog]

The manhole cover wasn't near the bridge it was about 110 feet from the sidewalk in the field.

I believe he purposely left the sidewalk and purposely walked into the field.

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Agree, that was my point, that Caleb purposefully walked into the field and possibly to take another photograph of something that interested him - whether it caught his attention that early a.m. or that he had seen there at another time and wanted to go out there and photograph it. This is one theory of why he walked out into the field.