TX - Cash Gernon, 4, found dead in street w/multiple wounds, Dallas, 15 May 2021 #2 *ARREST*

[iamnotagolem]

WHAT? If that's true, that's huge.

I don’t think I’ve ever said “what the hello kitty!?!?” so many times following a case before

 

[Tiff23fr]

The homeowner told FOX 4 the only reason he didn't press charges at the time of the attack is because a woman who lived a few doors down asked him not to, saying Brown was suffering from a mental episode. She also told him brown sometimes stayed with her.

That woman lived at the same home where, months later, 4-year-old Cash Gernon would be taken from and allegedly killed by Brown.
18-year-old accused in 4-year-old Dallas boy's death allegedly grabbed another toddler in February

curiouser and curiouser

Sounds like the event didn’t take place at her home. The media report however indicates DB previously stayed in that home sometimes.
I wonder if this was from the boys being friends in the past?

ETA: The event should have been handled by authorities in my opinion.

 

[Linda7NJ]

The homeowner told FOX 4 the only reason he didn't press charges at the time of the attack is because a woman who lived a few doors down asked him not to, saying Brown was suffering from a mental episode. She also told him brown sometimes stayed with her.

That woman lived at the same home where, months later, 4-year-old Cash Gernon would be taken from and allegedly killed by Brown.
18-year-old accused in 4-year-old Dallas boy's death allegedly grabbed another toddler in February

curiouser and curiouser

So he was very familiar with the layout of the house.

 

[Gemmie]

@Miigo Hmmm.
Vid showed child wearing shorts when getting in bed, and being taken from bed. A person walking past deceased body said he was wearing only shorts, hours later.
It would be nice to think the child was wearing them the entire time.

I only make sure bets but I'm putting my money on DB NOT taking his shorts off and putting them back on. That just seems pretty improbable to me in this case.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Sounds like it didn’t take place at her home, but this media report indicates DB previously stayed in that home sometimes.
I wonder if this was from the boys being friends in the past?

ETA: The event should have been handled by authorities in my opinion.

I don’t think the authorities are to blame here, it doesn’t sound like grandpa called the police. Because he was neighbors with Monica and she talked him out of it because he was staying with her. Per the article I linked.

 

[Arkay]

The homeowner told FOX 4 the only reason he didn't press charges at the time of the attack is because a woman who lived a few doors down asked him not to, saying Brown was suffering from a mental episode. She also told him brown sometimes stayed with her.

That woman lived at the same home where, months later, 4-year-old Cash Gernon would be taken from and allegedly killed by Brown.
18-year-old accused in 4-year-old Dallas boy's death allegedly grabbed another toddler in February

curiouser and curiouser

WHAT? If that's true, that's huge.

Uh-oh. Alarm bells ringing too loudly. So many mistakes were made here. Although I get it about hindsight, there apparently were numerous red flags that, if acted upon, could've saved Cash.

I do NOT think MB had anything to do with the kidnapping and murder, but IMO she needs to be more forthcoming about how well she and her family knew DB. Particularly because if DB was a familiar face to Cash, once DB got him outside the house and Cash was more awake, he may have willingly walked with DB. He would have been difficult to carry for eight blocks so I was already wondering about this.

We don't know anything about this grandfather but I will say that for me, if someone came into my house with a knife, grabbed my granddaughter, broke in again after that, there is N-O-T-H-I-N-G that would have prevented me from calling 911 and following through with pressing charges.

 

[Tiff23fr]

I don’t think the authorities are to blame here, it doesn’t sound like grandpa called the police. Because he was neighbors with Monica and she talked him out of it because he was staying with her. Per the article I linked.

Apologies for a possible misunderstanding- I was not even thinking about anything negative toward authorities. I was thinking that Monica and the Grandfather should have alerted/let authorities handle it. JMO

 

[Gemmie]

The mother may not be sleuthed. This falls under the Victim Friendly guidelines:
Family members of either a victim or a suspect
Friends of either a victim or a suspect
Most any other individual

Thank you for replying. It was more finding past addresses for DB to see if there were other kidnap attempts nearby. Since DB is 18 (and was younger while living with her) he wouldn't have any address history (no bills, rentals, etc.)... I was looking up his mom's past addresses since they lived together. I totally understand though how this could fall under sleuthing her even though it was more sleuthing him (thru her). Appreciate the fast response!

So question... If I find his past addresses had young children kidnapping attempts nearby can I post that info here?

It's kind of a tricky situation when the POI just turned 18 so would still be living at home.

Thanks again.

 

[WillenFan21]

Looks like this is going to be his defense:

Cash Gernon: Teen accused of kidnapping boy speaks out, says he’s NOT the person seen on disturbing security footage

 

[Gemmie]

Uh-oh. Alarm bells ringing too loudly. So many mistakes were made here. Although I get it about hindsight, there apparently were numerous red flags that, if acted upon, could've saved Cash.

I do NOT think MB had anything to do with the kidnapping and murder, but IMO she needs to be more forthcoming about how well she and her family knew DB. Particularly because if DB was a familiar face to Cash, once DB got him outside the house and Cash was more awake, he may have willingly walked with DB. He would have been difficult to carry for eight blocks so I was already wondering about this.

We don't know anything about this grandfather but I will say that for me, if someone came into my house with a knife, grabbed my granddaughter, broke in again after that, there is N-O-T-H-I-N-G that would have prevented me from calling 911 and following through with pressing charges.

And Google walking time said it's about a 7 minute walk and with the way he was carrying him... he had to get heavy. I just know that things seem to get heavier the longer I hold them. It's not possible they can, but it sure feels that way. Plus, it just seems like an awkward way to carry a child 8 blocks. Oddly though.. you'd think he wouldn't have carried him out that way since Cash couldn't have gotten a look at who was taking him. You'd think the child would feel better knowing it was someone he knew, therefore 'safe'. Then again, he probably just thought it was a family member and didn't fuss much.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Apologies for a possible misunderstanding- I was not even thinking about anything negative toward authorities. I was thinking about Monica and the Grandfather should have alerted/let authorities handle it. JMO

My bad, sorry for misunderstanding. I totally agree authorities should have been involved.

 

[Gemmie]

Question for folks more in the know about these things than I am... Does anyone know if LE (or anyone/any group) asks murderers why they do what they do? I would think that information could be useful. I confused Google when I tried searching for that and got a bunch of unrelated stuff. TIA

 

[Tiff23fr]

Thank you for replying. It was more finding past addresses for DB to see if there were other kidnap attempts nearby. Since DB is 18 (and was younger while living with her) he wouldn't have any address history (no bills, rentals, etc.)... I was looking up his mom's past addresses since they lived together. I totally understand though how this could fall under sleuthing her even though it was more sleuthing him (thru her). Appreciate the fast response!

So question... If I find his past addresses had young children kidnapping attempts nearby can I post that info here?

It's kind of a tricky situation when the POI just turned 18 so would still be living at home.

Thanks again.

I agree, it is a tricky situation.
If there is an attempted kidnapping or other crime that LE or MSM has made a linkable reference to DB as potentially being a part of that is OK to post. Sharing a linkable data point about another nearby child abduction that may have occurred is OK as well.

The fine line that shouldn’t be crossed is to accuse DB of other specific attempted abductions if he was not a named POI.

Hope that helps!

 

[Inthedetails]

The homeowner told FOX 4 the only reason he didn't press charges at the time of the attack is because a woman who lived a few doors down asked him not to, saying Brown was suffering from a mental episode. She also told him brown sometimes stayed with her.

That woman lived at the same home where, months later, 4-year-old Cash Gernon would be taken from and allegedly killed by Brown.
18-year-old accused in 4-year-old Dallas boy's death allegedly grabbed another toddler in February

curiouser and curiouser

What the heck?

 

[Inthedetails]

Sounds like the event didn’t take place at her home. The media report however indicates DB previously stayed in that home sometimes.
I wonder if this was from the boys being friends in the past?

ETA: The event should have been handled by authorities in my opinion.

Could she have dissuaded the neighbor from calling LE because her boyfriend was hiding from the law and she didn't want LE around her house?

jmo

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Question for folks more in the know about these things than I am... Does anyone know if LE (or anyone/any group) asks murderers why they do what they do? I would think that information could be useful. I confused Google when I tried searching for that and got a bunch of unrelated stuff. TIA

FBI Profiles do. Several books and TV shows about it.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

My bad, sorry for misunderstanding. I totally agree authorities should have been involved.

Hmmmm Thinking about the sweet boys being left in that environment makes me want to take the gloves off. MOO

 

[MSCJgrad]

Interesting angle that it’s drug debt related, I considered that drug connections may have played a role, for various reasons, in the beginning but didn’t think of it any further.

Also would align with the previous incident, as to why the grandpa didn’t file charges after being assaulted/the attempted kidnapping of his granddaughter... people are less inclined to call the police when there’s drugs involved.

 

[Seattle1]

WHAT? If that's true, that's huge.

The homeowner told FOX 4 the only reason he didn't press charges at the time of the attack is because a woman who lived a few doors down asked him not to, saying Brown was suffering from a mental episode. She also told him brown sometimes stayed with her.

That woman lived at the same home where, months later, 4-year-old Cash Gernon would be taken from and allegedly killed by Brown.
18-year-old accused in 4-year-old Dallas boy's death allegedly grabbed another toddler in February
curiouser and curiouser

The incident with DB allegedly grabbing a grandchild on the same block occurred in February. It's pretty obvious that the accused is not mentally sound, and MS was also aware he was not well.

I'm curious when MS decided that DB should be barred from her home. I recall she cited her daughter was afraid of him and he was not allowed inside. I wonder if MS issue with DB coincided with TG's departure from MS home, allegedly end of March, or before?

The relationship between DB and the residents of MS home need further inquiry. So many unanswered questions...

MOO

 

[diggndeeperstill]

This CBS story seems to suggest the incident was reported to LE at the time but the grandfather declined to press charges or pursue legal remedy for the incident until after Cash was killed. At least that's how I've been reading the MSM coverage. I haven't read the Daily Mail story yet.

The article may be a crock but I believe the incident happened and it appears LE do as well since the latest charges against DM seem to support that.

ETA link I forgot to share with this one 'Sorry For Trying To Take Your Grandchild', Suspect In Cash Gernon Homicide Grabbed Sleeping 2-Year-Old In February

IF This was reported at the time, did CPS look into this? How long would a referral take?

The homeowner told FOX 4 the only reason he didn't press charges at the time of the attack is because a woman who lived a few doors down asked him not to, saying Brown was suffering from a mental episode. She also told him brown sometimes stayed with her.

That woman lived at the same home where, months later, 4-year-old Cash Gernon would be taken from and allegedly killed by Brown.
18-year-old accused in 4-year-old Dallas boy's death allegedly grabbed another toddler in February

curiouser and curiouser

BBM in quote
How utterly confusing... and why does she get to speak on his (DB’s) behalf? What a mess. At the time of the February incident was Cash living there? I assume so, it was just his daddy that left later.