GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #21 *Arrest*

[MIKAYOYO]

IMO: EA is in the unfortunate position of being the last person seen with CM, and his alibi doesn't check out. Out of respect for a member/friend/classmate of his peer group, it would be more appropriate (IMO) to put a missing poster as his profile pic.

I'm not sure what your last sentence was getting at but...
In regards to the phone call being from christina for sure. VI said it was def her. Common sense told me that means she left a voicemail (or a few)

The above bolded is what I was referring to. If EA is guilty because he doesn't have a missing pic of Christina on his Facebook, then shouldn't tthe others be guilttty also?

 

[Gigglingtoes]

The above bolded is what I was referring to. If EA is guilty because he doesn't have a missing pic of Christina on his Facebook, then shouldn't tthe others be guilttty also?

it's all coming to me now I gotcha
You're correct. People who were there that night and now she's missing and they are moved in w their lives strike me as acting like nothing happened. Normal people who's friend or acquaintance go missing after a night w them at the very least would post a missing flyer on facebook. There are strangers doing it who don't even know her. So yes. I believe so.

 

[Helen_Ready]

Why do that if one's home is picketed and one's family is threatened?

EAsaid he was threatened...because he has lied so much..that could be just another lie...or a statement to show people he is a victim??

 

[BluePoppy]

My theory goes along with LE knows CM left in EA's car, but they are letting him hang himself with lies waiting for that one piece to make a stronger case. They may or may not have video proof of her getting in the car. If they do, they may have profiled EA as someone they can't easily break for a confession if they show him that proof.

Pretty obvious LE considers EA a suspect, though LE never says so in such cases. They want perps to feel "safe" thinking they are clear so LE can watch them & hopefully catch them tripping up or leading them to evidence.

I think that no matter which way you look at it, CM was in EA's car. Otherwise he never would have lied about which garage he was parked in.

I also believe she was in the car when he passed the toll. Or he wouldn't have lied about which way he went.

The 3 minute or so delay in getting to the toll could be a few things. EA pulling over to try to make a move &/or arguing about where they were going. I don't think CM went back to the apt, except for a super quick trip to see if her keys were there, but I doubt that. Time to get to the apt, time spent looking around & time to get back to the car would have taken longer. I think the most likely scenario is they stopped at a gas station or such for a drink, snack, etc. Another possibility is they stopped to pick up one of the other party goers from the apt to get in the car with them.

Did CM go with EA willingly? IDK. She was clearly in the front seat (supported by LE removing seatbelt & EA wiping down passenger door). Did she have any phone pings after leaving SOL? I don't recall seeing that. If they stopped for anything as suggested above, likely willingly at that point. It could be unwillingly if the delay was because EA pulled over prior to the toll & something bad happened then.

I'm having a hard time correlating EA causing injury to CM in the parking garage, because I strongly suspect she was in the front seat. If he did, maybe he knocked her out & put her in the car. But that would be super risky driving around, unless he was sure the streets were deserted.

EA also clearly sustained his injuries after 4pm and before he arrived at Sprint the next morning. He had no limp on the video.

Barring other toll / GPS info, I believe CM is somewhere out there past the toll point.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

When Jonni gave the interview she said Christina and HF had a arguement and she just really wanted to go home and deal w it and she wanted her dog and that was her intention more or less. Like to figure it out with HF.

But wouldnt the fact she didn't show up tto get the dog, after 4 days, be a big fat red flag???

 

[NWLady]

I'm not disagreeing, I would be blasting all of them too. But, IMO, they are going for the weakest link. All the probable cause for the warrant? I think the family knew of 95% of that information when they picketed, and the web of lies EA was already caught in made him the weakest link. Even if he is not the ultimately guilty party, I think he has information.

Regarding this part of your post - "and the web of lies EA was already caught in made him the weakest link." I couldn't agree more! And WHY lie about whether he walked her to the parking garage/ramp, and WHY lie about which parking garage/ramp he was parked in? etc etc etc IF you have nothing to hide, then why not tell the TRUTH?! Wouldn't that be the simplest thing to do?! But yet EA and others wonder why people are questioning his possible involvement?? Could his lies have raised doubts? Hmmm...I wonder. SMH Maybe it would've been simpler to tell the TRUTH in the first place, rather than having to be showed the CCTV footage from LE?? yada yada yada. IMO, JMO, HE (EA) put himself in the spotlight by all his lies! So do I feel sorry for him? That answer is NOPE!

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Do we know for fact EA suffered said injuries and limp? Yes I know it's stated inn the warrant as what a co-worker SAID but has LE confirmed this is the case? This is huge if LE confirms. Otherwise it's justt hearsay.

 

[zippixx]

Just because you are, doesnt mean that everyone is that way. That is the point. I would never break the law in this way or cover for someone. That doesn't mean that I don't understand why people do because I 100% understand why people do it. Understanding and agreeing with it are two different things.

Yeah, I guess i do have a hard time understanding why someone would cover for a crime of this magnitude and I DO know it happens all the time.. maybe it's just the mentality of the people involved. I could see it maybe for a drug bust or something like that.. hit & run (if nobody was injured). But this.. No, I don't understand it.. but that's just me & MOO!

 

[Gigglingtoes]

But wouldnt the fact she didn't show up tto get the dog, after 4 days, be a big fat red flag???

To Hf?


I don't think they were getting along and I don't think he's the most caring boyfriend so it would seem he didn't give a crap that she didn't come home enough to alert anyone.

i think we've gone over that so many times though.

 

[Mamamerced]

The above bolded is what I was referring to. If EA is guilty because he doesn't have a missing pic of Christina on his Facebook, then shouldn't tthe others be guilttty also?

I understand your point, but to be fair, the quote says, "out of respect for a member/friend/classmate of his peer group, it would be more appropriate (imo) to put a missing poster as his profile pic".
It doesn't say, he is guilty because he didn't put up a missing poster.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

Thanks. I remember hearing that. So what if she had her keys. And if it's true someone heard a scream around the time they were in the garage, maybe she didn't get in his car voluntarily. That would explain why he turned his phone off so quickly after leaving the shops. Not sure I believe that's what happened, but it's a thought. MOO

Too many things could of happened for garage to time he was at kroger for me to try to figure out so your theory is possible of course. We don't have enough info to fill in the blanks really.

 

[hockeymom4]

Yeah, I guess i do have a hard time understanding why someone would cover for a crime of this magnitude and I DO know it happens all the time.. maybe it's just the mentality of the people involved. I could see it maybe for a drug bust or something like that.. hit & run (if nobody was injured). But this.. No, I don't understand it.. but that's just me & MOO!

my comments and point have nothing to do with this case. They are general terms of understanding why a person would cover for someone. I don't need to know one detail of what happen to the person to understand why. That was the point I was making. In this case, we don't know the mentality of the people involved. We can assume. but again, to my point, if we look at this case, I don't have to understand what happened to understand why someone would cover. Example, people in relationships cover for each other all the time as do relatives. Love is a strong bond. If someone turns their loved one in, they may feel they are losing them, failing them, and by being able to cover for them they are helping them and being loved more than ever. It is beyond horrible to do this, but it never surprises me.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

To Hf?


I don't think they were getting along and I don't think he's the most caring boyfriend so it would seem he didn't give a crap that she didn't come home enough to alert anyone.

i think we've gone over that so many times though.

I know, but my response was in response to a post that Christina justt wanted to go home and get her dog. The dog has been a huge facttor here. She'd never leave her dog. So wouldn't HF feel the same? She specifically wanted her dog, yet she didn't show up for four days to get the dog.

I understand your point, but to be fair, the quote says, "out of respect for a member/friend/classmate of his peer group, it would be more appropriate (imo) to put a missing poster as his profile pic".
It doesn't say, he is guilty because he didn't put up a missing poster.

Yes, I know. I'm saying tthat there were otthers who didn't put her missing pic as their profile pic so why is he the only one who is responsible? JMO I'm seriously asking a question. I'm not being snarky or whatever. I want tto know why he's the only one being persecuted when others who were ther that night don't seem to care either. NO ONE has been named suspect or POI so why are we only allowed to discuss him?

 

[BluePoppy]

I don't think LE would mention the info from the coworker about the limp, etc in the warrant if they didn't find it credible. I also suspect that limp is visible on the Kroger video, along with who knows what. Maybe even looking at his other injuries. Time will tell. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

I would say that's more hearsay. I haven't seen that anywhere except on here. As for the injuries LE noticed them when they interviewed him per the warrant. So not hearsay at all. The limp was reported to LE by (I believe) two co-workers.

My point is I think people call whatever doesn't fit their theory hearsay.
the woman on the HFCM page said her daughter reported the screaming that night. i believe there was a report someone posted her of a disturbance. Wouldn't that connect the dots?

 

[JnRyan]

My theory goes along with LE knows CM left in EA's car, but they are letting him hang himself with lies waiting for that one piece to make a stronger case. They may or may not have video proof of her getting in the car. If they do, they may have profiled EA as someone they can't easily break for a confession if they show him that proof.

Pretty obvious LE considers EA a suspect, though LE never says so in such cases. They want perps to feel "safe" thinking they are clear so LE can watch them & hopefully catch them tripping up or leading them to evidence.

I think that no matter which way you look at it, CM was in EA's car. Otherwise he never would have lied about which garage he was parked in.

I also believe she was in the car when he passed the toll. Or he wouldn't have lied about which way he went.

The 3 minute or so delay in getting to the toll could be a few things. EA pulling over to try to make a move &/or arguing about where they were going. I don't think CM went back to the apt, except for a super quick trip to see if her keys were there, but I doubt that. Time to get to the apt, time spent looking around & time to get back to the car would have taken longer. I think the most likely scenario is they stopped at a gas station or such for a drink, snack, etc. Another possibility is they stopped to pick up one of the other party goers from the apt to get in the car with them.

Did CM go with EA willingly? IDK. She was clearly in the front seat (supported by LE removing seatbelt & EA wiping down passenger door). Did she have any phone pings after leaving SOL? I don't recall seeing that. If they stopped for anything as suggested above, likely willingly at that point. It could be unwillingly if the delay was because EA pulled over prior to the toll & something bad happened then.

I'm having a hard time correlating EA causing injury to CM in the parking garage, because I strongly suspect she was in the front seat. If he did, maybe he knocked her out & put her in the car. But that would be super risky driving around, unless he was sure the streets were deserted.

EA also clearly sustained his injuries after 4pm and before he arrived at Sprint the next morning. He had no limp on the video.

Barring other toll / GPS info, I believe CM is somewhere out there past the toll point.

Just trying another scenario here similar to yours and borrowing from the Forensics Files "Wheel of Misfortune". What if LE had video from inside the garage, but they don't have the right angle on EA's car or they are between cars. Like in the Forensics Files case, EA after opening the door shoves Christina's head against the edge of the roof of the car or another part of the car. Might have to do it twice. (I hate thinking about this stuff!) He puts in the front seat and buckles her in place. Might take 1-2 minutes. Might explain why the seat belt and mats were taken if a luminol test was positive.

After driving somewhere and either after stopping or while EA is driving she comes to and there is when the fight ensues. Maybe even the car damage if it catches EA by surprise.

Again, very similar to your scenario and "Wheel of Misfortune".

 

[mcluver23]

I imagine he tried to calm down.. maybe showered.. cleaned up...thought about what he was gonna say.. Possibly that is the time he got rid of the evidence.. (her belongings). Had to get a trash bag maybe, find a dumpster.. assess the damage to his car. I guess he found plenty to do in those hours.

Adderall is a performance enhancing drug. I suppose if he took it, it would help him focus and get things done quickly and meticulously.

 

[Mamamerced]

I am cautious of so many of the theories being tossed around here even though I find some possibly plausible and definitely interesting. Personally, I believe EA is most likely the main/only perp., but I'm not invested in "being right" about it. If evidence comes to light proving otherwise, fine. I'm reluctant to embrace these interesting theories, though, because, lacking evidence they begin to seem like spin to me.
Moo.

 

[BluePoppy]

Investigators build cases with lots of leads & piecing together creditable information. The DA will weed out what is hearsay & what isn't before.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

I know, but my response was in response to a post that Christina justt wanted to go home and get her dog. The dog has been a huge facttor here. She'd never leave her dog. So wouldn't HF feel the same? She specifically wanted her dog, yet she didn't show up for four days to get the dog.



Yes, I know. I'm saying tthat there were otthers who didn't put her missing pic as their profile pic so why is he the only one who is responsible? JMO I'm seriously asking a question. I'm not being snarky or whatever. I want tto know why he's the only one being persecuted when others who were ther that night don't seem to care either. NO ONE has been named suspect or POI so why are we only allowed to discuss him?

I don't think I have anything else to say bc I just responded to this same thing in the previous post