GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #39 *Arrest*

[Mamamerced]

Anyone wanna think about these questions?

He worked at a golf store, so he could be familiar with golf courses. He has interest in baseball, so he could be familiar with baseball fields. We know he liked phones and worked at the Sprint store. What else?

Well, he worked in at least one restaurant and, if my rusty memory is working I believe he worked in real estate (possibly for his dad?). As for still living at home, I think it is standard and acceptable in many cultures, including Hispanic. We don't know much about him here.

 

[heather.scissorhands]

I know we don't know much about EA, I was hoping some good Sleuthers would be able to come up with something! And you have. I'd forgotten about the real estate factor and the restaurant (where he met his underage GF). I wonder if he hunted or if his family had rural property?

 

[EllieBee]

"But he wouldn't have to necessarily trust anyone enough to ask them for help with Christina."

Of course he would. You wouldn't ask a casual acquaintance or a near-stranger to help you hide a body or clean up a murder, sex assault, etc. It would be someone you know well enough to trust implicitly, so you don't end up on death row.

And there was no one else at the scene besides EA and CM, at least not that we know of. We saw her on video at 3:55, walking alongside EA. No one else. And within 5 minutes or less, she is somewhere in EA's vehicle, perhaps already in his TRUNK. They are both in his vehicle for about an hour at least, although she may have been in the trunk most or all of that time..

So if we're trying to think up an accomplice, it's a scenario logically in which EA probably has CM in his trunk and is reaching out for help to someone. That's someone he's trusting with his life, more or less. And those options imo would be very limited, if they exist at all.

As to the texts, unless there's one that's a request for the world's best place to hide a body, or for directions somewhere remote, can't see them as relevant to hiding a body. The last text occurred before we saw CM on video at 3:55, and in it she was fine and walking down the sidewalk to her car.

You are misunderstanding me.

I do not think he asked for or had help from anyone. I have repeatedly said I don't believe he had an accomplice.

I think he may have been on the way to see someone. If those texts are legit and there was a personal or business relationship there, EA may have been going to see someone with CM and something happened on the way.

This info might help narrow down where to look for CM.

I have NEVER said EA had help. I have tried so hard to be clear and keep getting reprimanded for saying something I did not say.

 

[EllieBee]

But he wouldn't have to necessarily trust anyone enough to ask them for help with Christina. I never said anyone else was involved with that. He would just have had to KNOW them enough to be heading that way when things went bad.

Which is why I keep saying any texts ARE important, not to implicate anyone else, but to help find where he may have put Christina.

I don't see why that gets people so upset. It is not sleuthing anyone else, it is not accusing anyone else. It simply trying to figure out where EA took Christina.

Bringing back my own post (dork) and bolding what I said regarding EA not having an accomplice but possibly was on the way to see a friend with CM.

ETA: maybe if I had typed "he wouldn't have to trust ANYONE if he wasn't asking for help with CM, he would just have to KNOW them well enough to be going to see them with CM when things got bad en route" that would make more sense.

 

[SteveS]

So you're trying to figure out where EA might have gone when he left the garage at 4-ish, rather than figure out if he had an accomplice? Got it. We've worked through that issue many times of where he might have gone in that hour or less, and come up to dead ends. Here's what we've figured out, and so far it's quite unrevealing.

• The texts don't tell us anything helpful if they aren't making a commitment to be somewhere or asking for directions (and they did neither).
• But cell phone pings might.
• And toll tags would.
• And various videos of cars traveling down highways or streets would.

What else?

 

[zippixx]

I keep going back to the Watters Creek area search.. AFAIK, it was the only search that made the local news. LE claims it was "routine" (15-20 detectives quickly converge in that area). Did someone (or maybe a camera) see EA in that area, early that morning? Was something found that possibly belonged to CM? It could be a starting point of where he was headed, but who knows where he would have gone after that.. Doesn't really help much, if he drove an hour+ after that...

 

[Mamamerced]

My memory's getting rusty but i thought his parents didn't know he was in jail. Do you remember?

Does anyone know if his parents did or did not know EA was in jail for that theft?

 

[MzOpinion8d]

I keep going back to the Watters Creek area search.. AFAIK, it was the only search that made the local news. LE claims it was "routine" (15-20 detectives quickly converge in that area). Did someone (or maybe a camera) see EA in that area, early that morning? Was something found that possibly belonged to CM? It could be a starting point of where he was headed, but who knows where he would have gone after that.. Doesn't really help much, if he drove an hour+ after that...

My guess is cell phone pings led them to that general area, once they had all the data from the phones.

 

[zippixx]

Respectfully, how could anyone "come to his rescue" when he was in jail?

I originally wondered why nobody bailed him out (rescued him) & left him in there for a week.. If the bond was $1000, aren't you only required to pay 10%? (I'm asking because I don't know...never been to jail)

ETA: The main reason I brought this up: If he couldn't get help with a relatively small bond on the phone theft, who is gonna help him hide a 1st degree felony AK charge?

On the phone theft, I did read that he "was later released on bond". So, was he really in jail for a week on that charge?

http://cw33.com/2014/11/05/man-last-...-for-stealing/

 

[zippixx]

My guess is cell phone pings led them to that general area, once they had all the data from the phones.

True... it just seemed odd the way that search happened, as if there was some urgency. I don't recall hearing about other searches, where pings were, unless they were more secretive..

 

[MzOpinion8d]

True... it just seemed odd the way that search happened, as if there was some urgency. I don't recall hearing about other searches, where pings were, unless they were more secretive..

I know what you mean about the urgency, and I remember thinking at the time that it must have been when all the cell data came together and put her phone in that area with his, but I don't think I had anything solid to base that on. I don't think they ever said anything other than it was "a routine search as part of the investigation" which we all know is BS!! It does seem like some more info about the cell data came out shortly thereafter - maybe his arrest warrant?

I really need a Christina notebook to track all these thoughts in!

 

[SteveS]

The searches seem weird, but maybe that's just my perception. I get the sense that LE is walking a tightrope between offering help, and keeping their evidence under wraps. For example, I don't think the family has been provided all the various ping data to try to analyze and work from, which would certainly be extremely helpful, but would also let the cat out of the bag on what LE has discovered about EA and his movements.

 

[heather.scissorhands]

So you're trying to figure out where EA might have gone when he left the garage at 4-ish, rather than figure out if he had an accomplice? Got it. We've worked through that issue many times of where he might have gone in that hour or less, and come up to dead ends. Here's what we've figured out, and so far it's quite unrevealing.
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What else?

So, we can't talk about possible scenarios, EA, or anything that happened the night CM disappeared besides her walking with EA and being in his trunk?

What do you suggest we discuss, Steve? Anything of interest to you? At this point, I assume we are done until trial?

 

[heather.scissorhands]

I originally wondered why nobody bailed him out (rescued him) & left him in there for a week.. If the bond was $1000, aren't you only required to pay 10%? (I'm asking because I don't know...never been to jail)

ETA: The main reason I brought this up: If he couldn't get help with a relatively small bond on the phone theft, who is gonna help him hide a 1st degree felony AK charge?

On the phone theft, I did read that he "was later released on bond". So, was he really in jail for a week on that charge?

http://cw33.com/2014/11/05/man-last-...-for-stealing/

You are right about bond. It would have been $100 to get him out. Sometimes, if you "wait it out" in jail then you have served your time and it covers your bond. I assume that's what he did here?

 

[zippixx]

You are right about bond. It would have been $100 to get him out. Sometimes, if you "wait it out" in jail then you have served your time and it covers your bond. I assume that's what he did here?

I dunno.. seems like he would have to serve more than a week for time served... maybe someone finally coughed up 100 bux to get him out.. article is sort of vague. (I also noticed my link to the article doesn't work for some reason...)

 

[frisson]

Just IMO but if I helped him dispose of a body and he got his butt thrown in jail I am not going near him.

I guess my point was unclear. If no one helped the situation on a theft charge, who is going to help move a body, if there were one.

 

[SteveS]

So, we can't talk about possible scenarios, EA, or anything that happened the night CM disappeared besides her walking with EA and being in his trunk?

What do you suggest we discuss, Steve? Anything of interest to you? At this point, I assume we are done until trial?

Should we be looking for a suspect anymore? To me that makes no sense. LE has already arrested the guy that did the crime, per the evidence they have, and is going to put him on trial. I think if you asked them (and they know more than anyone), the case is solved other than finding CM.

(We have to keep in mind that the verdict in the trial won't determine if the case is solved. Solving the case is determining who did it, and I believe LE is fully certain EA did it. The trial has a jury seeing if there's enough evidence to punish for the crime. If you ask me, I think there will be plenty.)

As you note, I tend to emphasize the evidence, because that's all that's allowed in a trial. And the evidence involves her walking into the garage with EA, leaving in his car (perhaps IN HIS TRUNK already) less than 5 minutes later, being put in his trunk then or thereafter, and never being seen from again. It strongly indicates an abduction, probably a murder, done by EA.

As for what to talk about between now and the trial on a solved case? It's not up to me. I just bring my own perspective and opinions. Between now and the trial, I think we're like spectators sitting in a courtroom waiting for a trial to start. We just don't know enough to matter, so we'll talk, bat around some what-if's, and wonder about "mysteries" and "curiosities," but the case is already set and it's all about EA and only EA.

Of course there is still one thing that is NOT solved - the location of CM. That's something we could help with, perhaps. Maybe, hopefully, some day, someone here will come up with an idea that solves that one.

 

[SteveS]

I dunno.. seems like he would have to serve more than a week for time served... maybe someone finally coughed up 100 bux to get him out.. article is sort of vague. (I also noticed my link to the article doesn't work for some reason...)

The theft charge is still awaiting trial. He bonded out, and my understanding is the bond was later returned after he was in custody of Collin County (on AK charge). Being in custody assures he will be available for trial.

 

[zippixx]

The theft charge is still awaiting trial. He bonded out, and my understanding is the bond was later returned after he was in custody of Collin County (on AK charge). Being in custody assures he will be available for trial.

So, if EA is found guilty for AK & SA & if the penalty is a stiff one, then they will have a trial for phone theft? Or will they just dismiss that case? Just curious....

 

[Steleheart]

I guess my point was unclear. If no one helped the situation on a theft charge, who is going to help move a body, if there were one.

No, no it was clear, mine was not - I basically jumped of your post to address the topic in general then didn't fully explain it.

Let's just say I am the only one he feels he can trust to help him get out of this jam with CM and not shame his family. Something went badly and now he's looking for help. After reluctantly doing that, I then find out he was also stealing phones. I'm not going to bail him out and possibly get on LE's radar. He's going to have to wait for Mom.

Without mentioning any names, is it clear who I am when saying that? Cryptic, I know but TOS is important.

Personally I do NOT believe anyone helped him. My point was only to show how it's plausible for the people alluding to it.

JMO

ETA: I do believe the Body came before the theft charge.