Icechick
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-I'm not sure if i'm allowed to send that link?
my apologies, i forgot about TOS. thanks anyway, Ill look when I get a chance!
-I'm not sure if i'm allowed to send that link?
That text was from Crystal - she and Paul talked about riding out the storm in Austin or Dallas the night before but she changed her mind. The text to Steve the next morning said "it looks like I may stay here with the kids, just looks like rain".
Her Uncle didn't believe Steve because she hadn't mentioned anything to him about Dallas (and he was going), but Paul said they did think about it but changed their minds later.
I honestly think that she may have said it to keep her options open. Like she didn't really want him to know where she was going to wait out the storm - and if she would it wouldn't have the kids.
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For everyone concerned about Crystal's suffering and/or making noise while being strangled:
I am friends with a man who loves MMA UFC fights (gross imho) to the point that he takes classes and enters amateur fights. He told me how amazed he was that he was once accidentally rendered unconscious in mere seconds by an opponent during a practice.
He was held in a well-known move called a "rear naked choke" which is executed from behind, as titled. Pressure is put on the carotid(s) until a person faints. Cops learn and use this maneuver as well. It's relatively easy to learn.
Obviously, MMA fighters and cops release the hold as soon as the opponent is subdued so that blood flow is immediately restored to the brain. My friend had no pain and zero clue he was even passing out until after he'd hit the mat and come to, simultaneously.
Knowing this, I'm praying that Steve put Crystal in a rear choke as she had her back to him so that she had very little suffering or struggle. It would help explain her children not being awakened. It's quick and silent; cutting off the blood supply to the brain is not the same violence as strangling the breath out of someone via crushing their trachea. It's still horrific beyond words, but only putting this out here with the hope that it might give others some smidge of peace--hoping sweet Crystal suffered far less than we've all imagined. Who knows what the autopsy can or will show, but this is all I've pictured since learning that he caught her from behind. That, like my friend, she felt nothing.
You can google on your own or read about the science behind the move here: https://breakingmuscle.com/fitness/...choke-or-what-happens-when-you-get-choked-out
*mod, pls remove if inappropriate, with my apologies.
Can I post a screen shot of the texts? It was from MSM-I hadn't heard anything about that text being to Steve. If so I stand corrected. Are there 2 different text, one to Paul and one to Steve? Paul says that was the last text he received from her regarding the weather & taking the kids out.
http://www.crimeonline.com/2017/09/...altors-murder-cause-of-death-revealed-police/
-Nancy G. and 3 guest: Paul H, a psychiatrist and a news correspondent on the show to discuss the details of Crystals murder.
I just came across this and I think it is worth the listen. Paul mentions that he wished he would have given her a goodbye hug before she left that morning. He said they had already discussed moving in and starting a life together. They were together in Galveston the weekend before and she spent the night at his place on Thursday. There is good coverage on the surrounding individual roles involved in the 2 week period. She mentioned the Sheriffs choice of words when referring to the "forthcoming info"
Steve McDowell's 45th birthday is Monday, September 18th. Wonder if the sheriff made him a birthday cake?
Can I post a screen shot of the texts? It was from MSM
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I listened to that last nite too. NG was my evening routine while making dinner, and I miss her show. the podcasts are next best thing IMO. thanks Good, for posting this!
Can I post a screen shot of the texts? It was from MSM
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I listened to that last nite too. NG was my evening routine while making dinner, and I miss her show. the podcasts are next best thing IMO. thanks Good, for posting this!
-did you notice that Paul did not mention anything about going to Dallas? Maybe he didn't want to verbalize it to the press?
JMO, I don't think they ever planned to go to Dallas. She might have told Steve that so he wouldn't know where she was going for the storm. I still think she was going to introduce the kids to Paul that weekend. JMO.
-Thank you for the clarification. Where is the text that says the "weather (or traffic) didn't look bad, and may take the kids out"?
http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/09/07/mom-mysteriously-disappears-hurricane-harvey-texas.cnn
These are screenshots of the video. I hope you can make everything. The 1st was from Paul's phone, the 2nd from Steve's.
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