TX - Dad rapes stepson to avenge 8 yo daughter's rape, Fort Worth, 2008

[southcitymom]

The situational molestor would probably enrage me more. These are suppose to be the people we can trust our children with. We let our guard down when we know them.

I'm with you on this, csds.

After Hurricane Katrina, my brother-in-law moved in with us. He came to escape the storm but stayed when NO became unihabitable. He was here living in our basement for about 7 months until he got back on his feet.

I have two sons, who were 4 and 6 at the time. Now my BIL is a great guy and the only thing that happened was that my sons got to get closer to their uncle, but every now and then I would think to myself: "How many terrible things that happen to kids start with - well, and then my uncle moved in with us for a while?" It's awful, but I've got friends who have stories that go just like that.

I trusted my BIL then and I still trust my BIL, but I kept my eyes wide open. I try to always keep my eyes wide open as far as my sons are concerned. But still - things like this can happen to even the most vigilant parents.

I would be crushed if my children were ever harmed by a close family member of friend.

 

[Linda7NJ]

The 18 yr old mother should NOT have bailed him out and if the 18 year old had the sense God gave a chicken he would have never called for a ride.

The father of the little girl should have just beat him silly with the bat and called it a day.

 

[j2mirish]

Horniness is almost always involved in situational molestation - horniness and lack of boundaries - whether it's the stepfather who is drunk and horny and his wife is working and his 10-year-old is watching TV on the sofa or the teenager who is horny and immature and his 8-year-old sister is around.

We know that horny teenage boys will go to many means to get off - farm animals, food products, younger children. Not all teenaged boys of course - the majority of them have appropriate boundaries and a sense of right and wrong. But I do not underestimate the power of teenage male hormones (when coupled with other factors - abuse, drugs and alcohol, etc...) and I don't think I ever will.

I so disagree with you--- they do not anally rape 8 year old stepsisters---this is not a normal rational thought that would be considered MANY MEANS---not even close- scm--- not even close

 

[csds703]

I so disagree with you--- they do not anally rape 8 year old stepsisters---this is not a noromal rational thought that would be considered MANY MEANS---not even close- scm--- not even close

She never said it is normal, quite the opposite. She said that "the majority of them have appropriate boundaries and a sense of right and wrong."

She was just trying to explain situational molestation and how it can happen.

 

[T-Rex]

The kid was 18--he could have driven to a bar and picked someone up. He could have picked up the phone and called a hooker. It's not like the 8 year old was his only way of getting sex. This was about violence and control.

 

[reb]

<We know that horny teenage boys will go to many means to get off - farm animals, food products, younger children.>

are you kidding?? you mean ALL members of the male species, of ANY age.... unfortunately!

 

[BeeBee]

I think when things like this happen there is a certain amount of shock a parent goes into plus their first thought in caring for the child that the harm happened to. I'm sure this 18 year old didn't just stand there after he was caught. He probably ran outside or something and the stepfather called the police. It's always after things are done and over that the thinking about it starts and the fury gradually sets in.

I remember the story of the Karate instructor who kidnapped one of his young students. I don't recall how long it was before he was found and the instructor arrested but it was shown on TV when the son came home and was greeted at the airport by his mom and dad. His normally blonde hair dyed black. It was awhile before the instuctor was brought back but enough time for the dad to learn of all the lurid details.

On the day the instuctor was brought back and was being escorted through the airport in handcuffs, no one noticed the man with his face hidden, pretending to use the phone at a bank of phone booths. On national TV the man came away from the phone booth as the man that had molested his son for months was passing by and blew his brains out. It was pretty disturbing to watch but I couldn't bring myself to feel sorry for the man. And, it's my belief that as the time passed and he had to hear all that had happened to his son, he snapped. Yep, he had it planned but still he snapped. That's why I think sometimes people don't react right away. But given time to think, they might do something they wouldn't normally do.

And, I'm sorry, but if this had happened to one of my daughters or my beloved grandaughters, I would probably have to kill someone too. And, I would probably want to do what this man did with the wrench also. But, that's just me.

 

[Bobbisangel]

This 18 yr old is not a child and it isn't normal for a horny teenager to rape a little girl anally. To me, this 18 yr old is a predator and got exactly what he deserved.

When two of my daughters were molested by a 16 yr old kid our doctor told me that normal 16 yr olds are fooling around with 16 yr old girls...not 8 and 9 yr old little girls. This 18 yr old is not a normal young man.

I wonder if the stepfather didn't feel that he did the right thing the first time and it didn't work. So out of rage he decided to deal with the situation himself. I doubt if he thought out the consequences when he went after the young man and did what he did.

If I had ever walked into my home and caught my son raping his youngest sister I don't know what I would have done but it wouldn't have been good. I think I would have just lost it altogether.

The mother bailed the 18 yr old out. Why didn't she stay there and wait for him to be released? Instead she leaves and doesn't even hang around the phone waiting for him to call for a ride. She had to know that the stepfather would know that she bailed him out. I still don't understand why in the world he got bail and then they just turned him loose to find a way home...right back where he raped his little sister. What were they thinking? He shouldn't have been allowed anywhere around the little girl...by law.

We have a very dysfunctional judicial system. The whole thing needs revamped. Through the murder of my daughter I learned more about the judicial system then I ever wanted to know. It's not good.

 

[MeoW333]

The kid was 18--he could have driven to a bar and picked someone up. He could have picked up the phone and called a hooker. It's not like the 8 year old was his only way of getting sex. This was about violence and control.

That's the truth. He could have went out into the street and raped someone his own age. This 18 year old is a pedophile. I have no idea why the mother would even bail him out, that makes no sense. Aside from maybe, just maybe she feels guilty if he was abused in the past. (scenario)
Yet that is no excuse whatsoever for an 18 year old to rape an 8 year old. In this case, i think what the father did is justified. Crime for crime.

 

[Mygirlsadie]

I had to step away from this story yesterday because I was getting so d*mn mad that anyone would not be 100% FOR the father of the little girl and what he did to the stepson. I realize everyone has their own opinion & I respect that. After thinking about it long and hard and looking at my 3 innocent children I have to say I still feel the same way...There is no way for me to describe the love and loyalty I have for my children. I would of only done one thing different though and that is I would of beat him to death..

 

[HIKER7s]

all I can say to this is WOW!
I agree the Dad did what some other dad's in his position would think to want to do. In any case, its ashame his life will be further troubled by this. Its probable, he'll be looked at as someone they smypathize with but cant take the chance to dismiss. In turn, giving him a sentence.

 

[Annie]

But now the dad may wind up in jail and the little girl could be living with the stepbrother with no one to protect her. I don't think this was the right way to handle it.

 

[Filly]

Looking at this from another angel I just wanted to share. People question why kids don't always "tell" of sexual molestation. Even at that young an age you know something extremely awful has happened to you. Couple that with a threat of "If you tell I will....." Somehow we process in our little minds that one or both of our parents will kill the creep that hurts us, and therefore have concern of them getting in trouble as well. I can't judge this dad, but I do know that's one of the reasons I didn't tell at that same exact age. Fear of my dad blowing off a family friends head. How sad an entire family torn apaprt because an 18 year old chose to molest his little sister.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

I just read this whole thread and for some reason can not form an opinion. I keep going back and forth on what i think....but i feel so incredibly bad for the little girl.

I completely agree with you.

 

[nanandjim]

There seems to be more to this dysfunctional family's story. Perhaps, it will come out at trial. I'm assuming that the rape occurred in the middle of the night. Why was the father up? Did he hear the little girl's cries?

In any case, it seems to me that the brutal assault on the boy was aimed at the mother's actions, not the boy's. The stepfather was punishing the mother for bailing her son out of jail. If this were not the case, he would have assaulted him right then and there. His rage should have been at its peak when he walked into his daughter's room that night.

I just hope the entire truth comes out in this case. The girl needs to be interviewed. I hope that she tells the truth. This boy (young man, if you prefer) is mimicking someone's act, IMO. I do not think that his assault was due to "horniness." Boys his age are notorious for taking this matter into their own hands, so to speak.

 

[jilly]

There seems to be more to this dysfunctional family's story. Perhaps, it will come out at trial. I'm assuming that the rape occurred in the middle of the night. Why was the father up? Did he hear the little girl's cries?

In any case, it seems to me that the brutal assault on the boy was aimed at the mother's actions, not the boy's. The stepfather was punishing the mother for bailing her son out of jail. If this were not the case, he would have assaulted him right then and there. His rage should have been at its peak when he walked into his daughter's room that night.

I just hope the entire truth comes out in this case. The girl needs to be interviewed. I hope that she tells the truth. This boy (young man, if you prefer) is mimicking someone's act, IMO. I do not think that his assault was due to "horniness." Boys his age are notorious for taking this matter into their own hands, so to speak.

This father restrained himself, however. He called the police. He obviously didn't want the 18 yr old back in the house. The Court gives the guy bail and obviously no provision to stay away from the house. The wife pays the bail and the father snaps. I think any father would.

 

[Indy Gal]

BEE BEE I have never seen any of your post before today. You have a wonderful way with words Hun!!

 

[Paladin]

An eye for an eye is what I been saying all along! I guarantee you if it was legal to do unto others as they do unto you the crime rate in our country would be nothing like it is. You go dad I would do the same thing you did for your little girl.. :clap: The legal system is a big fat joke!

Uh, I disagree. Wouldn't the crime rate potentially double? You can do the math.

 

[NanaMcZoo]

Bee Bee , I couldn't agree more.

http://southernsassoncrime.com/?p=996

 

[paddy01]

Hi BeeBee, I remember this story also. I believe a lot ppl that suffer trauma of this sort could possibly react in this same manor. Remember Ellie Nestor the mother who shot her son's molester? Ellie Nestor was given prison sentence because of her actions. Which made me sick!