TX - Dr. Kendra Hatcher, 35, killed in parking garage, Dallas, 2 Sept 2015 - #1

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DexterMorgan said:
If the ex gf did not tell them to rob her then she can't be charged with capital murder. And as far as we know. CC didn't know that the ex gf was the mastermind. So if the shooter isn't caught then the ex gf may not get charged with capital murder.
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Forgive me, but I can't understand what it is you mean. If the ex girlfriend ordered/arranged something that resulted in KH's death, she will be charged with murder. What is it that you think the ex girlfriend did, exactly? Robbery and murder are two very different things. If there are three parties involved in a murder, they are all responsible for that murder. This means the mastermind, the driver and the shooter are all responsible, under Texas law.
 
Coquette said:
Forgive me, but I can't understand what it is you mean. If the ex girlfriend ordered/arranged something that resulted in CH's death, she will be charged with murder. What is it that you think the ex girlfriend did, exactly? Robbery and murder are two very different things. If there are three parties involved in a murder, they are all responsible for that murder. This means the mastermind, the driver and the shooter are all responsible, under Texas law.
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The capital part is what would change, because it would be murder absent the other felony of burglary.
 
bluesneakers said:
The capital part is what would change, because it would be murder absent the other felony of burglary.
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Actually, it could very well still be "Capital Murder."

http://statelaws.findlaw.com/texas-law/texas-first-degree-murder-laws.html

"in order for the charge to be capital murder, as opposed to just "murder' in Texas, one of the following must apply: The victim is a peace officer or fireman who was acting under lawful duty at the time of the crime; The defendant intentionally commits the murder in the course of committing or attempting to commit kidnapping, burglary, robbery, aggravated sexual assault, arson, obstruction or retaliation, or terroristic threat; The defendant is paid to commit murder or pays someone else to commit murder; The defendant commits the crime while trying to escape from a penal institution; The defendant murders another person while in jail The defendant murders more than one person The defendant murders a child younger than six years of age The defendant murders someone in retaliation for or on account of the service of a member of the judiciary"
 
texasgirl2 said:
But Bessie.......what if there is no guy??? :silenced:

(Just playing devil's advocate here.)
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I said earlier that there could be a question as to the second person's gender. At least two witnesses reported seeing a man, however, and the warrant states detectives corroborated CC's account from witness statements and surveillance video. So that all seems to indicate a male shooter, but who knows. What is not indicated in the warrant, is that CC acted alone. Now could that change tomorrow or the next day? Perhaps, but as of now that's where it stands.
 
The smart person would not want to do it.
 
I meant to reply to this quote about a "smart person". (The smart person would not want to do it)

Madeleine74 said:
I think we can now take "professional" off the table. Not the brightest bulbs in the box. How do any criminals think they'll get away with it? Most do get caught. And when there's a personal vendetta involved, it is most often solved fairly quickly in addition.

The smart person would understand they will get caught and then not do it. Lots and lots of dumb and irrational people in the world, we sure see evidence of that. Every murderer walking through the doors of prison is someone who thought they'd get away with it.
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bessie said:
I said earlier that there could be a question as to the second person's gender. At least two witnesses reported seeing a man, however, and the warrant states detectives corroborated CC's account from witness statements and surveillance video. So that all seems to indicate a male shooter, but who knows. What is not indicated in the warrant, is that CC acted alone. Now could that change tomorrow or the next day? Perhaps, but as of now that's where it stands.
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BBM I thought only the teenage boy witnessed a man in a hoodie. Who is the second witness?

*going to read the media thread now in case I missed something*

ETA I guess the teenaged boy's dad is considered a witness by the fact that he heard the shooting, though the articles read to me like only his son actually saw the shooter.

Do I have that right?
 
Nandee63 said:
I don't believe there is an "also". CC is a dental assistant. That's 2 different positions.
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--agree. but CC had to know the ex g/f somehow? from somewhere? I don't think that she "conspired" w/ a random stranger.

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/loca...n-questioned-uptown-dentists-murder/71895460/
Dallas police contacted the ex-girlfriend, who agreed to meet with police for an interview. She told police she had borrowed the car from the man, but she had allowed Crystal Cortes to use it.

Cortes was then called in for an interview, in which she told police she had conspired with the ex-girlfriend to drive the unknown suspect to rob Hatcher.
 
Nandee63 said:
I don't believe there is an "also". CC is a dental assistant. That's 2 different positions.
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That's actually just splitting hairs, given the situation. It means both women had secondary roles to an actual dentist. It implies they could have worked together and could have known KH. This is why I consider this huge. It's a given.
 
La Louve said:
BBM I thought only the teenage boy witnessed a man in a hoodie. Who is the second witness?

*going to read the media thread now in case I missed something*

ETA I guess the teenaged boy's dad is considered a witness by the fact that he heard the shooting, though the articles read to me like only his son actually saw the shooter.

Do I have that right?
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Right. The father didn't see the shooter.
I was referring to this statement that refers to the witness as a man, not a teenager. Could be the same person, though.

The man, who doesn’t want to be identified, said he heard Dr. Hatcher scream, heard gunfire, and then saw a white man hurry from the garage and get into a beat up black Jeep Cherokee. The witness said the man was wearing a black hoodie and had it pulled forward to cover his face.

Another report makes it clear there were "witnesses", but doesn't state what each one saw or heard.

The links are in this post in the media thread.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12046647
 
Wow! You step away from the computer for a few hours for life's necessities and BAM! the thread explodes with all the posting that a second perp deserves!

In all seriousness though, is it not somehow harder to accept than a random druggie looking for the next hit? So very tragic to think of the the blind, seething rage that jealousy can trigger! Humankind are a weird bunch that we can love so fierce...it's this ferocity that makes life so wonderful but can also bring so many of us undone.


-Plus, in following up the weekend's sleuthing: the double murder charge on CC's booking sheet is still there. This was investigated by one media outlet who were informed by police that it was a clerical error and it would be cleared up after the long weekend but at last look it is still there...
 
Lilibet said:
I thought she might be a particular dental hygienist. Thirty minutes until the 10 pm news in TX.
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I'm switching back and forth between all the news channels. Hoping to be able to share something! Are you watching online?

ETA: Typical Texas when weather is the top story!
 
I tried to zoom way in on the passenger side of the vehicle head level and got this pic - can't really tell if it's a man or what...lol. I sent it to the Dallas IWatch Tip line but they said it was too blurry - but maybe someone here can enhance it even more. To me it sort of looks like an older guy - sort of a Randy Quaid lookalike.

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