TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #23

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GRACE: When we were told that -- when police wanted to look at his cell phone, he started deleting numbers, did he explain that to you?

DUNN: What he told me was, they wanted to see where he had called me at work. He showed it to them on his phone. They said, OK, gave it back to him, and they said show me again. And he says it wasn`t there.

My (sneaky) daughter was forbidden from seeing a boy named "Tommy" when she was 13, after she came home from school covered in BITE MARKS. She was "in love" with him and, of course, continued the relationship at school. One day she "disappeared" after school. Her phone had been taken away the night before when she was caught using it after the established "cut-off" time. In the end, it turned out she was at the home of "Tommy" which I learned when I called the person she had been speaking to "after hours" the night before and "Tommy" answered. In her phone, "Tommy"'s number was listed as "Becca". If (IF) Shawn was talking to someone he had entered in his phone as Billie (who was NOT Billie), at times he knew he had not spoken to Billie, he may have initially thought that showing them the call log that had calls to/from "Billie" would be enough to satisfy them. When they wanted to double check, he realized that Billie would not back him up on those dates and times, or, that LE would discover that the numbers listed under her name were not her numbers, since the person listed as Billie in his phone was someone else.

Did that make ANY sense?

OTOH, most phones allow you to store multiple numbers under a single name (home, work, cell) so calls to "Billie" made during times that she had "supposedly" left her cell for her kids to use while she was at work COULD have been to her work number and would still show up as "Billie" in his call log. So "why would he call her cell when he knew it was not with her"? Maybe he DIDN'T. Maybe he called ANOTHER number he had stored for her.
 
My post has wrong initials,sorry. Was too sleepy. I will be more careful next time. I meant SA not AD!
 
I do not understand exactly why I feel the way I do. For some reason I do not think SA is the perp. There are tons of inconsistencies in what the search warrants reveal about his story. But, for some reason I don't get the feeling that he is involved. Other than she may have disliked him immensely. And may also have been scared of him.
It has been mentioned that Clint went to look for her in Odessa.
Can anyone please, help me on what day that was and if he is still gone?
And NO I am not suspecting Clint of anything.
Thank you.
 
Anything from the locals re: the landfill search?? Is the local news updating at all? How's the weather for searching? tia

haha just saw westsidefox asked the same thing.
 
How many of you believe that BD is NOT communicating with SA at this time? We know they were texting for awhile and then she said she had not heard from him for a "few days". Is this something she is just telling the media or do you all believe they are really not communicating? She seems too much on the fence to stop all communication with him to me.
 
Time after time in these cases (case after endless case), we see the same things with the parents. I remember when my daughter went missing at the age of 13. She had left to walk the dog at 7 pm and didn't come home. Called my ex (her dad) immediately to see if she was there - he lived across the street too. He became instantly panicked too and began looking everywhere he could think. Called her friend's parents. Found out that one of her friends had also left at the same time to walk her dog. And then called the police. The police came immediately (she had only been gone a few hours). They searched her room (found stuff I didn't even know about!); they grilled us. I was in tears and worried beyond belief. Happily the police found her (and her friend) smoking cigarettes behind a nearby drug store at 4 am. The dogs were fine too.

And I am not even going to go into how when my two dogs got loose a year ago from our rv. I stayed up all night driving around, calling them, posting flyers at a nearby rest area, and asking everyone if they had seen them.

I never ever understand these cases.
 
I do not understand exactly why I feel the way I do. For some reason I do not think SA is the perp. There are tons of inconsistencies in what the search warrants reveal about his story. But, for some reason I don't get the feeling that he is involved. Other than she may have disliked him immensely. And may also have been scared of him.
It has been mentioned that Clint went to look for her in Odessa.
Can anyone please, help me on what day that was and if he is still gone?
And NO I am not suspecting Clint of anything.
Thank you.

I believe it was Thursday. His mother was on NG on Thursday night and said he was there following up on a lead. A witness had seen a male and female with a dog and a sign on the side of the road. That witness thought it was HD. We have not heard anything from LE that this sighting was credible though. Just CD's mother.
 
I feel that Billie is taking the heat because she is the one that is here. She is doing all she can. I can't believe she would talk to Nancy Grace for several shows if she was guilty. The poor women was at work. Why is she getting such comments I am reading?
 
Actually, I'm in Houston, and have seen very little, if anything regarding this case on any local news stations.

I'm only 30 miles away and I didn't know about it until she had been missing for a whole week. Now there are flyers all over town and people talking about it but that full week when basically no one new about it is what worries me. A week is a long time in a case like this.
 
I believe it was Thursday. His mother was on NG on Thursday night and said he was there following up on a lead. A witness had seen a male and female with a dog and a sign on the side of the road. That witness thought it was HD. We have not heard anything from LE that this sighting was credible though. Just CD's mother.

Oh gee, I read a news article that the sighting DID NOT pan out.
But lost as to where I saw it...........maybe the last interview with Clint the other day. SAD........
 
Something may have happened the night before, but leaving work could also have been an impulse to go act out on some fantasy while school was out for holidays, the brother was gone, the Mom was at work, and neighbors possibly still gone for the holidays.

I don't see this as being the case and would think it extremely weird.
Oh, I'm just on my way to another day at work..... think I'll get a soda... OH WAIT !!! ... Hailey's at home alone ... I've always wanted to ..... XXXXX..... I'm going to leave and do that now.

In all the cases I've followed it usually just doesn't work like that.
 
Morning everybody..

Im just waking up w/ my 1st cup of coffee, one eye open and trying to catch up on the threads and starting from the bottom up eh?

I havent had a real chance to see where you all are in recent conversations, so I dont mean to derail the current topic, please forgive me if I do..

but something is bugging the heck out of me..

I know its been said that Sa has a lawyer, but do we know if thats really true? ive not heard le say he has a lawyer? just have read it on the boards...

Maybe he is lying about having a lawyer,?

Id like to hear that confirmed by le, or by sa's supposed lawyer if he really has one, kwim?

do we know if sa really has a lawyer? if so, it puzzles me that his lawyer would let sa talk to the media, and why hasnt this supposed lawyer been speaking for his supposed client?

just my thoughts

okay, let me get busy reading..and playing catch..

I was truly hoping Hailey would have been found by now...

oh, and I truly belive with all my gut instinct that SA has harmed Hailey..

as for BD..im on a fence, no longer sitting on fence, but hanging upside down by my lil pinky toe, and about ready to crash land with a thud on my head
 
My post has wrong initials,sorry. Was too sleepy. I will be more careful next time. I meant SA not AD!

LOL, I knew who you meant, I just thought the AD stood for some private nickname you had bestowed on him.
 
I feel that Billie is taking the heat because she is the one that is here. She is doing all she can. I can't believe she would talk to Nancy Grace for several shows if she was guilty. The poor women was at work. Why is she getting such comments I am reading?

My feeling exactly. Law Enforcement does not want her searching. From what I have read they usually do not want the family out searching. for a variety of reasons.
 
This link states the SA is the only suspect.

Also the video with Billie saying she loves him..etc..

She says something like "as they show me more and more evidence "

I didnt catch the direct quote and I just knew one of you heard it.

But that means they do have some evidence they are showing her agaisnt him. Wonder what it is?

I do not think that Billie believe Hailey to be alive. I think Clint also has been told she most likely is not.

I think she is being told to say she loves him and crap because of the investigation.

What?????? Are you kidding me????? Sorry, not criticizing you... just the content.
She LOVES him?? He is the #1 suspect in her daughter's disappearance and she loves him???????? I have no words. I just fell off the fence!
But...... I do not agree that LE is telling her to say that... no way. That's coming out of her own mouth. They might tell her what NOT to say, but telling her to say that would do nothing to help the investigation, IMO.
He's in his comfort zone... when he realizes she is not defending him, he'll run or do something equally as stupid and Bam! they'll give him a set of pretty bracelets and escort him to his new home.
 
Pings: I am really concerned about the pings on the CC tower. Reported as 23 minutes. Is this ping including the approach of a moving car when its starts pinging in that tower zone, as the car drives through the town and then drives out or is it a stationary zone as if its located at the residence.
 
Ok, let me first preface this with there were no sheets (that I've heard about anyways) in a dumster, at the hotel, etc, so this is all just HYPOTHETICAL.

No, they should not get confused, that's what they do, stick with one scent and one only.

eta-realized when I said there were no sheets that might be misread, so I am clarifying.

On NG, Billie stated that the reason there were no sheets on Hailey's bed at the moment was that LE had taken them to use for a scent.

THOSE sheets.
 
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