TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #40

[Quiche]

"withhold info" can also mean "forget" IF you are stressed out.
"lie" can also mean "forget" IF you are stressed out.
BD is stressed out. A lot more stressed out than anyone here, I should think.

And saying she is lying about everything but then saying "well, I'm not saying she did anything!" is pretty lame. If you think she did it, be honest and say so. Don't be sneaky about it.

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[debirlfan]

Well there's this post from Billie's friend:

01-03-2011, 05:32 PM
czgtz

About the phone records - I posted earlier that LE told Billie that they did not find any calls from Hailey on her friends phone.

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If the police are playing this close to the vest - keep in mind that technically, a CALL is not the same as a TEXT. LE said they didn't find any CALLS.

 

[PaulR]

When the experts start walking away IMO IT'S clear that uncooperative parents/significant others... have the answers and they would rather spend their time and energy looking for children that are trulu missing. ie. Caylee Anthony. She was NEVER missing. She was murdered. Hope that doesn't sound too rude. I cant fikd the right words. Poor Clint!

Wait - if you were working for a kids recovery organization, you'd walk away from assisting a helpless child because you thought the parents weren't being cooperative enough for you?

Or are you saying that is how those two groups are organized?

Because I kind of doubt that...

 

[Pondering Mind]

"withhold info" can also mean "forget" IF you are stressed out.
"lie" can also mean "forget" IF you are stressed out.
BD is stressed out. A lot more stressed out than anyone here, I should think.

And saying she is lying about everything but then saying "well, I'm not saying she did anything!" is pretty lame. If you think she did it, be honest and say so. Don't be sneaky about it.

She lied about buying drugs..she's deflected on anything that has been asked..She has shown more concern for SA than for Hailey...We will just have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm not saying she murdered her daughter, I am saying that for some reason she LIED to LE and that's not usually what an innocent parent does..unless they were a party to the crime and that could include everything up to covering up for someone else...nothing sneaky about it.. Just call me Dr Seuss, cuz I mean what I say and I say what I mean..what's your excuse..I mean theory?

 

[JenRen]

My impression is that she is easily confused and doesn't communicate well. I know she is supposed to be a nurse but she seems somewhat immature for her age and maybe under educated? I don't know, can't put my finger on it I guess. Easily misled that's why I was so glad to see MK go there. She needs help.

I believe a lot of her demeanor on television has quite a bit to do with the Ativan she is on. As I've mentioned before from my own experience, it makes you completely out of it, and YES, you forget a lot of details. I also think she's a nervous wreck and the stress is taking its toll on her.

 

[SuziQ]

My thoughts also.. Just wondering If she is using the Ativan and other pain meds as an excuse to not take the LDT..Just my thoughts on the subject.

My thoughts too. They kept taking them. The barstool type of advice is that you can pass a poly by taking a little than larger dose of anti anxiety meds like Ativan. That actually has some truth to it. And if you end up failing that can also be your excuse for failing.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Accessory After the Fact, mo

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Maybe reading back a few threads could be enlightening no matter what ones POV, huh?

 

[camcneishg]

The other day someone was posting about a couch in the back of a truck at the gma's house, and was looking for a photo of it....could anyone tell me if this photo was ever found? If this was discussed already, I apologize....thanks so much...I have been at work and when I left we were on thread 36 or 37

 

[Kimster]

Tone it down. :nono:

Disagree? Sure. But be respectful at the same time. This is not directed to just one poster in here.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

Question. When someone is served a search warrant, are they given a copy of the affidavit as well?

Excellent question!

 

[LadeeNTexas]

EE was originally listed as a runaway from Lubbock also. Today there's been an arrest in her case and she's been reclassifed to kidnapped. I think possibly LE jumps to the conclusion of "runaway" to often in these cases and loses precious time when they could actually make a difference in the outcome.

I am bothered that they don't sound sure where SA is at all. With them adding aerial searches today sounds like he's putting distance between him and searchers. I doubt his Mom's is as remote and easily watched as his grandmothers in Dunn were.

I do feel like this case is going to go cold and that breaks my heart. Hailey needs to be found and brought home. She deserves that.

 

[noneareworthy]

Good question...because so far imo..she has already lied about everything...Kinda reminds me of the little boy that cried wolf...after a while, especially concerning such a matter as your missing child..if you keep lying over and over again..WHY would anyone believe her?..except for the fact that they want her to be innocent..

..and because of these "little" untruths, you may (or may not) disregard everything she says. It's a dangerous game to play when your child's life is at stake.

 

[PaulR]

She lied about buying drugs..she's deflected on anything that has been asked..She has shown more concern for SA than for Hailey...We will just have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm not saying she murdered her daughter, I am saying that for some reason she LIED to LE and that's not usually what an innocent parent does..unless they were a party to the crime and that could include covering up for someone else..m.nothing sneaky about it.. Just call me Dr Seuss, cuz I mean what I say and I say what I mean..what's your excuse..I mean theory?

1) Of course she's going to "lie" about buying drugs. First because of the legal issues, and second because she thought it didn't have anything to do with her missing kid.
2) "Shown more concern for SA..." I'm not seeing that. She seems to be pretty involved in trying to find out what happened to Hailey. Maybe this is in your opinion.
3) Innocent people lie to the police all the time, for lots of reasons. Innocent people have even confessed to murder.
4) "She lied about X, therefore she must be involved in the murder of her kid" is pretty tortured logic. Seriously, how many threads are there on WS where someone involved in a missing persons' case "lied" to the police about something and ended up having nothing to do with the crime?

 

[strach304]

this is just how I feel but you explained it so much better than I could. I have no idea if we are right but that is my perception of her.

ETA I also think she was scared to death for the drug stuff and the stuff about to come out (like it did) and ruin her work life. It is done now so IMO she should stop with the excuses

I pointed out some time ago here that she also has DD to worry about and her job. In BD's mind she told LE the truth (she didn't count on it going public) and that's what was important. Then she's put on the spot by NG about drugs and threats to her, etc. Sure enough CPS investigates. After all the criticism LE got on this case in the beginning especially from NG and MK they were more than glad to turn the focus around. LE has clearly stated there are other POI's but has not named anyone but SA. I think all Billie wants is for people to not just focus on him because there are other possibilities and she's right. I'm not denying and I don't see where she is either that he is a good suspect. But Hailey is still gone.

 

[Adrienne37]

All I have to say at this point is thank God she can't nurse any longer. I sure wouldn't want to know my loved one had to be treated by this woman.

~JMO~

 

[cluciano63]

We've also seen cases where the adults have lied to the police about "little things" and the child is still missing...

 

[TxJan1971]

In the affidavit -- it states they removed evidence:

1) a 2 GB USB memory stick found in BD's bedroom dresser (Bottom right hand drawer) and
2) a Memorex CD-R found in BD's bedroom on an entertainment stand "behind" numerous DVD's movies. I'd love to know if they found any "evidence" on those... Have we heard anything more about this "evidence" taken?

See #4 .... and #4a and #4b

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/image...page/nxd_media/dox/pdf/2011_01/Affidavit .PDF

 

[SailorMoon]

Clint could always be on NG to keep Hailey in the national eye.
IMO, we really don't need to hear BD's circles of truth......

We know about Shawn going to work for 5 minutes and then leaving on Monday . . .

Billie went to work on Monday, and work on Tuesday morning, leaving there to go the police station.

Do we know if any of her co-workers/supervisors noticed anything strange with Billie on Monday and Tuesday ?

Anything going on between Billie and Shawn like excessive phone calls, maybe BJ said something to someone there ? about Shawn ? about Hailey ?

I don't recall this but maybe something has been reported about Billie at work on those two days. Just wondering . . .

This thread is moving so fast . . . it's like a marathon trying to keep up.

I hope they find Hailey soon.!

Now...the part in red above has always bothered me. Let me see if I have this straight. And please don't think I'm a bad mom. Billie had DD text the friend and tell Hailey it was time to come home. DD finds out that Hailey was never there. While I would be freaking out....and Billie may have done this for all I know- I would probably finish my shift - get home and then start phoning friends, looking and contacting everyone I knew - then I would go to the police. I would go to the police within an hour or 2, but did Billie look for her at all -- or just go to the police??? Like she knew Hailey wouldn't be found and was really missing right away......I don't know --- that has made me wonder.

 

[Lanie]

Lanie, I couldn't believe it when she tried to duck and dodge NG on that...THAT is a perfect example of what I mean though.. WHY do you play word games at a time like this..If she is talking/texting SA...so be it..but if she has and she really doesn't know what happened to Hailey..I can't think of one good reason why she wouldn't/hasn't ask him about the details...

Sadly, I have had way too many people in my life who play these word games, and in the end it never turns out to be confusion, or being 'slow', it always ends up being covering up for something, aka lying. I'm just hopeful this is a case of Billie having info from LE they have told her to not give up on NG, no matter what, but IMO, that's not very likely.

 

[JenRen]

She lied about buying drugs..she's deflected on anything that has been asked..She has shown more concern for SA than for Hailey...We will just have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm not saying she murdered her daughter, I am saying that for some reason she LIED to LE and that's not usually what an innocent parent does..unless they were a party to the crime and that could include everything up to covering up for someone else...nothing sneaky about it.. Just call me Dr Seuss, cuz I mean what I say and I say what I mean..what's your excuse..I mean theory?

She didn't lie to LE about the drugs, she readily admitted it IIRC.