TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #41

[Walker007]

Does anyone have a link to the google map that was created last week of points of interest?

And also looking for the link of the review that SA posted regarding the mask. Thanks in advance.

 

[salvarenga]

I am going back and reading through all of czgtz's posts. And I have to say, reading back through the posts....and IMO, it was CZ and even several posters here who really got the media rolling on this case. I am afraid if it had been left up to BD. We might not be on Thread #41 today.

 

[CathyinTexas]

BBM

And that would be every mother's inclination. Yet we find out that BD never went to MB's. MB's mother said she had never met BD and have never even seen her until BD appeared on the first NG. That was, is and continues to be a HUGE RED FLAG in my book.

That is strange, but we know that MB's mother said her daughter did spend the night with HD at least once, and that the two were good friends.

 

[TGIRecovered]

With all of the people who claim to have seen Hailey on either Sunday/Monday depending upon which version you believe, it seems as though if Hailey left her home on Monday at 3pm and headed out anywhere, someone should have seen her. Sounds like a lot of people keep their eyes out. The sighting I am most interested in is the woman who said, right from the start, that she saw Hailey, MB and a "boy she didn't recognize" on Monday evening. What became of this?

LE followed up by speaking with two girls who initially claimed to have been there with Hailey. They turned out to have mixed up the dates. It happened before Hailey went missing.
The only sighting still in question is the hairdresser. The others have been discounted by LE. I believe the neighbor who was kicked out was the other one they discounted.

 

[salvarenga]

I am going back and reading through all of czgtz's posts. And I have to say, reading back through the posts....and IMO, it was CZ and even several posters here who really got the media rolling on this case. I am afraid if it had been left up to BD. We might not be on Thread #41 today.

Sorry to quote myself but this post just adds to my point....

czgtz 01-03-2011 01:24 PM

I cannot even begin to express my appreciation for all of you who are spending so much time trying to get Hailey proper media coverage. I am very optimistic that this story will soon be picked up...... which would never have happened without all of you spending so much time messaging the media.

Thank you all so much.

 

[Tugela]

Just throwing this out there - if he was a control freak in their relationship, maybe his mindset was "what his is his & what's hers is his". (speaking from personal experience re: my WASband - we both had jobs.)

I don't know. My feeling is that Billie was the one in charge here though. The most telling thing to support that is how SA left the house. Billie asked him to leave, and he basically cried and did what he was told to do. If he was a control freak he would never had stood for that and LE would have had to be called out.

 

[CathyinTexas]

We know she didn't visit MB 's home because MB's mother said she didn't even know what BD looked like till she saw her on TV and for ME, my first thought would be to get a hold of MB and then GO OVER and speak not only to the child BUT THE PARENT. Because i know how 13,14 yr olds can be lying to cover one another. Now please keep in mind, I don't think MB had ANYTHING to do with Hailey's disappearance, but BD wouldn't have known that AT THAT time. MY first instinct would have been MB was covering for my daughter ya know.. but I was a wild 13 yr old maybe BD had no reason to think that... I don't know..

I thought I read that BD did call MB's mother before going to the police. It would be interesting to know exactly what their exchange was. It is also interesting that MB's uncle living on her property is a RSO. I have always thought they should have brought dogs into the home and especially the home of the RSO. We know of a case where the police went to the RSO's home several times, but didn't enter. There were relatives in the home the whole time the murderer had the child in his bedroom! It is not uncommon for relatives to lie and cover for their guilty relative.

 

[Tugela]

I call it mooching way too much when a 25 year old single man in good health with a job lives rent-free, uses someone else's cell phone, drives other peoples vehicles and has no expenses for utilities. It seems that he got all of his necessities from his girlfriend, mom, or grandma.

SA had a paycheck. He appears not to have spent any of it on living expenses.

You don't know that. He may have been handing it all over to her for all we know.

The phone may have belonged to the mom but she probably wasn't paying for it.

 

[Curious Me]

I call it mooching way too much when a 25 year old single man in good health with a job lives rent-free, uses someone else's cell phone, drives other peoples vehicles and has no expenses for utilities. It seems that he got all of his necessities from his girlfriend, mom, or grandma.

SA had a paycheck. He appears not to have spent any of it on living expenses.

"They" had no money when they went to the ATM, but who paid for that mask that got sent out to him the same week is what I wonder.

 

[Redbird]

Back to my concerns about Hailey's visibility as a cheerleader. I do hope LE questioned coaches and the other cheerleaders about any unusual incidents and if any of them ever felt someone was watching them in a suspicious way.

 

[Kimster]

:rose: Thank you Brad Dennis! :rose:

It is a privilege to have you as our friend on Websleuths! We give your our prayers and support always! Let us know how we can assist you and the team and we'll be there for you all! :grouphug:

 

[salvarenga]

Just ran across this tidbit about the 1pm sighting:

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/02/cash-reward-offered-for-missing-13-year-old-girl/

This article is from 01/02/11.

Hailey, 13, was last seen walking from her home to a friend’s house about 1 p.m. last Monday, according to police. She had intended to spend the night with her friend, Interim Police Chief John Bivins told Colorado City radio station KVMC/KAUM.

CZ's info on the 1pm sighting:

czgtz 01-03-2011 08:03 PM

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I am on the phone with Billie right now:


When Billie got home from work Monday, her BF told her that he came home early and that Hailey had left shortly after that. Tuesday, Billie called her son from work to get ahold of Hailey and tell her it was time to come home. The friend said Hailey never showed. The son called Billie, who came home, checked a few places. and went straight to the PD to report Hailey missing. She said 1pm because she had just assumed that BF came home at lunch on Monday - she never asked him, and didn't stop at her house or talk to him before she went to the PD.

Billie says that until the PD interviewed them Wednesday, she didn't realize that BF actually came home Monday at 3pm. LE has been aware since Wednesday that Billie accidentally reported the wrong time.

 

[CathyinTexas]

I TOTALLY agree as a mother, my first stop would have been MB's not the CCPD...
My issue with MB's mother saying she didn't know what BD even looked like until NG, I find that very odd living in such a small community, having a child the same age, even if the girls had not been friends, would she never have seen BD at any store, school function, community function???? KWIM... BD lived there almost her entire life?

That is strange. I would like to know why it is we should totally trust the statements of MBs mother? I have had my suspicions about her from the beginning. We haven't heard that LE brought in dogs to her home or the home of the RSO relative living on her property. I believe they should have honed in on that family and property at first. The dogs did led to the girl's property, didn't they? Or am I mistaken?

 

[Beyond Belief]

The lack of concern about Hailey has bugged me all thru this. No one was at all. EX. BD says they stopped at her mothers Monday night. It was quite a bit of time after dinner. No one called home to say what time they would be home, NOT even Haileys grandmother that we know of called there. What did Hailey usually do open a can of spagetti-o's for her dinner? The overwhelming lack of concern all the way around is really unsettling.

If I was ever late coming home my kids would have me on the phone wanting to know when I was getting there.

 

[Blue Eyed Chick]

Do we know if anyone named, even peripherally, has been actually cleared?

 

[Tugela]

I don't know. My feeling is that Billie was the one in charge here though. The most telling thing to support that is how SA left the house. Billie asked him to leave, and he basically cried and did what he was told to do. If he was a control freak he would never had stood for that and LE would have had to be called out.

Also, the vibe I get is that both HD and DD regarded him with contempt, so I don't think he is the one in charge here.

You have to keep in mind that people don't allways do bad things because they feel powerfull, sometimes they do bad things because they feel powerless.

 

[passionflower]

Any news on the search today???
Is weather holding out?

 

[cluciano63]

On Dec. 30th one of our helpful locals posted that it was "widely believed that H might be with an older boyfriend" (I am looking back through the first thread). I've never heard anything about a boyfriend, much less older, except for the "maybe three-week one" from Billie...anyone else?

 

[Beyond Belief]

that was a good thought. I keep thinking if there were words between SA and HD, it would be on the lines of "your not my father, i don't hve to do what you say!' I have heard my girls shout that more than once at their step fathers.

 

[TGIRecovered]

You don't know that. He may have been handing it all over to her for all we know.

The phone may have belonged to the mom but she probably wasn't paying for it.

Maybe someone can help me out here. Did we get the info about SA living rent-free with Billie from an interview on NG, or a different quote? :waitasec:

Tugela, if you have info which indicates that SA was paying bills for the phone that was in his mom's name, could you share it please?

I just have not seen any information stating that he gave BD money for rent or bills or made her car payments while he used her vehicle. I do remember that BD had to catch rides to work with a neighbor so that SA could use her vehicle to get to his job before he walked out of it.