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^^^THISSeems like someone could do something terrible and regret it .. their emotions would be genuine but not necessarily innocent
MOO
^^^THISSeems like someone could do something terrible and regret it .. their emotions would be genuine but not necessarily innocent
MOO
Pam and Roy from the Office?
I'm beginning to think Heidi went somewhere with someone after she came back from drop off. The scene at the apartment was staged to be as Shane described it.SO she probably wasn't killed in her apartment because its improbable that she and the baby were carried downstairs in broad daylight. So what are we missing?
Did she take the baby back downstairs later to leave to go somewhere? To flee? But as she was getting in the car, someone prevented her and he took her keys and cell. Her purse was in the car as I remember it.
Jeez, a struggle outside then!? Still that would be noisy.
I'm stuck.
Hoping she's safe somewhere.![]()
Speaking of the apartment: is there an address listed MSM? I’d love a Google street view. Just to see traffic flow/landmarks/etcIf that were the case, why is the baby carrier/seat in the apartment?
When my son was born, we lived in an apartment complex. I knew lots of people. I was always visiting someone or they were visiting me. I would make the rounds with the baby and show him off. I wouldn’t take a diaper bag cuz I lived close enough to take him home for a change or a bottle. My hubby worked all kinds of crazy overtime hours so it was a crap shoot when he came home so I wouldn’t have felt I needed to be home at a certain time for him with the baby. He wouldn’t have thought it was odd if I wasn’t home and the car was there.But what about under these specific circumstances. Newborn is also gone. Purse and diaper bag and car seat and car and money left behind. For hours. At what point would you be concerned? With a newborn in the mix and everything except the phone eft behind.
That’s the big issue for me. I know many people aren’t as paranoid as I am. But with a baby?
I don't even like PBJ as a rule, but my daughter made it in the pan one time, and I have to see, it is yummy. I've only had it two times when she lived here, but it really was good. Who knew?Saying its fabulous might be a stretch.![]()
Seems like someone could do something terrible and regret it .. their emotions would be genuine but not necessarily innocent
MOO
Oh, I know. My oldest daughter sneaks pics of me with all of the others and daughter #4 takes some as well so I am in one's with my first daughter... I still don't like to see them but she has many. Since they all live near the University in the same house, they all can see them. I just avoid the pics when I am there. I know Christmas she will be ready with the camera...Those kids of yours need pictures of their mama![]()
Is that you, Elvis???Grilled PBJ, in a pan, is fabulous.
I'm with you on all of this, especially given that SC said that it was HB's first day out with the baby!
HB and baby no doubt were tired by the time SC got home too which to me makes the entire situation even that more surprising too. It seems that for the first day out that the school trip might have been enough and that it would have been reasonable to expect HB to head straight home. You wouldn't expect the first trip out to be a whole day away from home IMO and this is another reason I'm not 100% on the timeline presented by SC. Where else could HB have been other than the friend's apt? We know the friends apt wasn't checked. Where else would HB possibly have gone with such a young infant? I'm not sure whether she would have even taken the baby to her place of employment to meet with coworkers yet? IDK. If the car and car carrier were at the apt, its not possible to conclude that she is anywhere except in the vicinity of her apt IMO. If the carrier were missing then perhaps an argument can be made that HB took the baby and was perhaps picked up by a friend etc. But this scenario is blown up by the baby bag being in the apt.
Given these facts about the HB items left in the apt/car, I'm surprised that LE didn't go door to door in the complex immediately? Perhaps they had CCTV and were able to see what needed to be seen? IDK.
SC made no mention of post partum issues with HB as sometimes these issues take time to manifest and can be severe particularly if they veer into the territory of psychosis. IMO it was a big deal for even an experienced mom to venture out with an infant for the first time and she was no doubt hyper aware of everything happening around her and no doubt tired after the book fair and so it seems to make sense that she returned home and didn't leave or go far.
MOO
But SC only mentioned one friend in the complex.When my son was born, we lived in an apartment complex. I knew lots of people. I was always visiting someone or they were visiting me. I would make the rounds with the baby and show him off. I wouldn’t take a diaper bag cuz I lived close enough to take him home for a change or a bottle. My hubby worked all kinds of crazy overtime hours so it was a crap shoot when he came home so I wouldn’t have felt I needed to be home at a certain time for him with the baby. He wouldn’t have thought it was odd if I wasn’t home and the car was there.
That’s what those of us who live here are quite interested to hear.
Hmmm. Like someone she knew well and that individual returned the items to stage the scene to "look" like she'd been abducted?I'm beginning to think Heidi went somewhere with someone after she came back from drop off. The scene at the apartment was staged to be as Shane described it.
Yes! Changing his story. This worries me...In the outdoor interview, he is asked how the apartment was left. He said "it was like she was home.... Her purse was upstairs."
Then he said it was unusual that he left her car door unlocked... "with her purse still inside her car with all the money still inside it."
Don't you think that the police representative at the press conference tomorrow is going to have to say something to the community regarding their safety or lack thereof? I mean, will the representative say that women with small children need to be vigilant, or will s/he say that there doesn't seem to be a cause for alarm? I wonder how a question like this will be handled.
Yes, we were in the middle of the Eric Primeouberger case....then gone!!I never did learn what happened but I remember there was a bit of controversy. The woman who ran The Hinky Meter blog was so well-informed and clever.
I think we’d be seeing a different reaction from LE if they suspected abduction.
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I’m hopeful LE did search the whole complex and questioned any friends or neighbors.
It is possible that she had a friend in the complex. And that she did go to see the friend. Maybe in the morning. And that the friend did something to her. And that there are no signs of struggle in Heidi’s apartment or anything amiss because nothing happened there.
She could’ve popped over real quick.
It happens. Usually with kids though. Like Sandra Cantu. Waking across her complex one minute and taken by the neighbor the next.
Maybe someone had a grudge. Maybe someone wanted the baby. Maybe someone’s significant other or friend was there and decided spontaneously to make a pass and do something.
I’m open but not very high on my list at this point.