TX TX - Julie Moseley, 9, Mary Trlica, 17, Lisa Wilson, 14, Fort Worth, 23 Dec 1974 - #4

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Per the article, FWPD did not respond.
It seems Dateline was only interested in hearing (or allowed to hear) that same old narrative... that did suddenly have a huge change to the timeline that very few people are picking up on.



Yeah one would think, oh I don't know, maybe one of the other families members would perhaps stand up and say, wait a minute, you said around 4pm and now you're saying closing time? WTH? Is it me or is anyone else wondering why they are not?
 
Yeah one would think, oh I don't know, maybe one of the other families members would perhaps stand up and say, wait a minute, you said around 4pm and now you're saying closing time? WTH? Is it me or is anyone else wondering why they are not?

Because they knew from the beginning it wasn't true. But they let it roll on. I don't know why. I have often wondered why those who know the timeline is crap never said anything. Cast suspicion on the whole lot imo
 
Yeah one would think, oh I don't know, maybe one of the other families members would perhaps stand up and say, wait a minute, you said around 4pm and now you're saying closing time? WTH? Is it me or is anyone else wondering why they are not?

I honestly don't think anyone has or will say anything about the timeline. Don't wanna get banished from the group for starting trouble.
and another thing that gets me is how everyone has gone on and on about TT liking young girls and how perverted he is. Remember he was 20 and she was 17 when they married. And granted TT did go through the wife's but that doesn't make him perverted or guilty.
Then RA post about his wife that was 17 when they married and he was 29. It's lasted and that's great. But why has no one asked why he couldn't find a woman his own age, or even 1 of the crude comments they have made about TT having a 3 year difference.
Sorry that's just me thinking out loud. But for real?
 
I totally agree.
I caught that in the startlegram article on missingtrio.com, Rachel's sister asked to guess what might have happened? That's a strange theory to me, but that article was printed almost 20 years ago. If that was the Arnold family theory in 1974 I'd call it damn-strange. So has that idea been hanging around all these years or was it just a off-hand comment that kept getting repeated over and over?
 
I caught that in the startlegram article on missingtrio.com, Rachel's sister asked to guess what might have happened? That's a strange theory to me, but that article was printed almost 20 years ago. If that was the Arnold family theory in 1974 I'd call it damn-strange. So has that idea been hanging around all these years or was it just a off-hand comment that kept getting repeated over and over?

hmmmm I don't know about theories 20 years ago but I do know that 10 years ago they had proof and witnesses that Rachel was alive and well, living somewhere just outside Ft Worth. or at least that's what RA claimed when he sat at the table talking with TT.
I wonder what happened to the proof and witnesses he spoke of at that time?
Now I could understand wanting to believe your sister is alive. But it's funny to me THAT family always has proof and witnesses for every theory THEY put out there.
 
hmmmm I don't know about theories 20 years ago but I do know that 10 years ago they had proof and witnesses that Rachel was alive and well, living somewhere just outside Ft Worth. or at least that's what RA claimed when he sat at the table talking with TT.
I wonder what happened to the proof and witnesses he spoke of at that time?
Now I could understand wanting to believe your sister is alive. But it's funny to me THAT family always has proof and witnesses for every theory THEY put out there.

Maybe they were watching for somebody's reaction to a Rachel sighting. I think that involved the detective dude if I'm thinking right. Seeing what someone's reaction would be were she to reappear.
 
Everyone knows that a timeline is one of the most, if not the most , important parts of solving the crime. Most of the time no one has a problem with stating it. The fact that no one involved wants to present the real one, makes me think somewhere someone made a big goof when telling LE theirs.
 
Everyone knows that a timeline is one of the most, if not the most , important parts of solving the crime. Most of the time no one has a problem with stating it. The fact that no one involved wants to present the real one, makes me think somewhere someone made a big goof when telling LE theirs.
So I wonder, inadvertent, or intentional? Whichever, we are all now left to try to make heads or tails of the information presented- and where do we always end up? Back at Square One. Let's all scream in unison......
 
If the words weren't coming from TT mouth how would that be any less believable than the words from RA mouth?Anything from a third or fourth generation story would be more welcome IMO.
We are not hearing words from either ones mouth!
Seems RA is not on here and nor are his defenders it seems. Though he seems to be the only one publicaly trying to overturn every stone and not being tourn apart by the other 2 girls family. Who are Parparticipating with him according to news articles on here and in the public
We are hearing of "Secrets talked about constantly", from TT supporting born later family. Who could not expect to hear from them? After all one of the missing could have been their mother are sister wife.
If "TT" cared about this he would have been working along side of the other 3 families.
But who knows what is the true reason he isn't? Only he does! He could be a poster .
No one but him know that. So why is he constantly defended when no one has produced articles naming him as one of the suspects.
Look at facts. Please! Doccument your accusations, Please!
Do you actually begrudge money people give of their own freewill to over stones in this case?
If you actually want to talk to FA then try contacting them. Their contact info is spread all over the net!
She wants answers also "it seems" from stories and pictures she is there also.
Doccuments posted here have stated the letter written by right handed person. MRAT was left handed! Doccumented on WS.
We speculate about the note over and over. Unless old DNA could be found on a 44 year old note nothing more could be gained from it except something to scribble on about.
We know the 4 O'clock thing started with phone calls. Ask the families of the missing.
They know but their representatives are not on here stating that.
No one wants to waste the rest of their short time left after 44 years of crank calls and the fake people.
There simply is not much that can be discussed on here. Yet it draws us back over and on and on! The same as the families.
 
We are not hearing words from either ones mouth!
Seems RA is not on here and nor are his defenders it seems. Though he seems to be the only one publicaly trying to overturn every stone and not being tourn apart by the other 2 girls family. Who are Parparticipating with him according to news articles on here and in the public
We are hearing of "Secrets talked about constantly", from TT supporting born later family. Who could not expect to hear from them? After all one of the missing could have been their mother are sister wife.
If "TT" cared about this he would have been working along side of the other 3 families.
But who knows what is the true reason he isn't? Only he does! He could be a poster .
No one but him know that. So why is he constantly defended when no one has produced articles naming him as one of the suspects.
Look at facts. Please! Doccument your accusations, Please!
Do you actually begrudge money people give of their own freewill to over stones in this case?
If you actually want to talk to FA then try contacting them. Their contact info is spread all over the net!
She wants answers also "it seems" from stories and pictures she is there also.
Doccuments posted here have stated the letter written by right handed person. MRAT was left handed! Doccumented on WS.
We speculate about the note over and over. Unless old DNA could be found on a 44 year old note nothing more could be gained from it except something to scribble on about.
We know the 4 O'clock thing started with phone calls. Ask the families of the missing.
They know but their representatives are not on here stating that.
No one wants to waste the rest of their short time left after 44 years of crank calls and the fake people.
There simply is not much that can be discussed on here. Yet it draws us back over and on and on! The same as the families.
To you maybe he’s the only one but a lot of people know that’s not truth He’s the only one asking for donations
And the other family’s is not speaking against him maybe they are picking thier battles I don’t know... TT is also left handed and has had handwriting analysis done passed
When people ask hard questions they get deleted off of fb site why is that.?
If FA wants answers she need to start telling what she knows she might get answers
And what exactly do you want TT to talk about His wife went missing 44yrs ago
And has not been heard or seen since as far as he knows .He has no more info about it He was at work when it happened
 
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Here is my wish list. I wish we knew what the next day and the next few days were like. Who was le questioning the most. Did they ever give the slightest hint that they were looking at anyone but family? Did anyone seem to lay low, avoid reporters? Did all of the families seem to cling together in the first few days? Did the families communicate freely with each other? Those answers would tell us so very much.
 
hmmmm I don't know about theories 20 years ago but I do know that 10 years ago they had proof and witnesses that Rachel was alive and well, living somewhere just outside Ft Worth. or at least that's what RA claimed when he sat at the table talking with TT.
I wonder what happened to the proof and witnesses he spoke of at that time?
Now I could understand wanting to believe your sister is alive. But it's funny to me THAT family always has proof and witnesses for every theory THEY put out there.
FA seen her while on a Sunday Drive.Let's not forget Avon discontinued Sweet Honesty shirts because of the missing girls.Not true.In all seriousness are they any witnesses to any of these sightings from the day they went missing until now?
 
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If RA is trying to find answers why do you suppose he sends people to a website that has information stating the car was full of presents and the zipcode on the letter is unknown.I think if he was posting under another name we would notice.
 
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If RA is trying to find answers why do you suppose he sends people to a website that has information stating the car was full of presents and the zipcode on the letter is unknown.I think if he was posting under another name we would notice.
RA was a little boy at the time. If he was talking about his mom thinking she saw RA on a Sunday Drive a few years back, maybe he was helping her keep her hope alive. I, for one, wouldn't dash her hopes. I'd try to believe for her sake. I bet she looked for RA in every face she saw, every car.

I believe he now floats from theory to theory hoping upon hope he can solve this for his mom. What a terrible burden to be the surviving child in an unsolved murder.

Please be careful to follow TOS. The mods can shut it down. I know we want to discuss what seems obvious to us, but in the perspective of the family the same things are rehashed again and again over the last 44 years. I'm sure they don't feel like re-hashing things again for every new crop of sleuthers in all forums.
The FB site is likely a handful.

Yes there are discrepancies. With news reports going back over so long I'm not surprised. With the internet it's much easier to fact check than in 1974, so it is good we discuss these things. However sometimes the questions have been answered.

A lot of this discussion is great. Let's keep the good parts and keep talkin'!
 
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Okay, back to the drawing board. The problem is, we don't have a good starting point. We need a factual time line-we could then rule something in or out....We do have a good idea of what time the girls departed, as, IMO, TM- Julie's brother, is a valid witness. He's given that time as approx. 10:15-11:00a.m. if I'm not mistaken. From there, do we have any other facts, or is everything just hearsay at that point, from a timing perspective?
 
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Here is my wish list. I wish we knew what the next day and the next few days were like. Who was le questioning the most. Did they ever give the slightest hint that they were looking at anyone but family? Did anyone seem to lay low, avoid reporters? Did all of the families seem to cling together in the first few days? Did the families communicate freely with each other? Those answers would tell us so very much.
Can I add to your list? I wish we knew what happened in the days and weeks leading up to that shopping trip. There could be things that were never in the newspaper that influenced the police to or away from certain people. I came here to find answers. I am findng questions I didn't know of. Its a whole lot to think about. I don't think there can be much the police haven't thought of over the years. even if they haven't said so.
 
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