TX - Mass Shooting at Fort Hood, 5 November 2009 #1

[miss lisa]

Wow... I can't believe what I'm hearing on Larry King...

what is being said?

 

[nursebeeme]

Please don't tell me......I'm not familiar......but don't tell me that because it is a military base and he is government issue that he is exempt from the death penalty, this is Texas, Texas Justice, but I guess the bases aren't, is this correct???

the army has the death penalty... no worries

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/us-military-death-penalty

 

[gibby207]

me too! seething mad! because that means that of the 13 dead it does not include his sorry a$$... but just one more innocent soldier or DAC employee!

YUP!!!!!!! :furious::furious:

 

[nursebeeme]

Wow... I can't believe what I'm hearing on Larry King...

what are they saying???

as for defense atty's salivating? nope... he will get military counsel. This happened on post.

 

[SuziQ]

Thanks to everyone who explained what this guy would face going to Afghanistan.

O/T I just wanted to say that my son will be 15 shortly. All he's ever wanted to do is be a Marine. He's bound and determined to become one. The problem I have is I realized about a month ago that he'll be enlisting in three short years. I am really struggling with this. I end up in tears if I think too much about it. I guess my point is, my heart goes out to all the mom's who's kids are fighting for their country right now.

 

[Beyond Belief]

Hmm. I don't have too much to say about this, but I am sorry this guy is still sucking up oxygen.

 

[gibby207]

what is being said?

A man who was an Iraqi vet claimed it was terrorism and fought with a POW on the subject of PTSD, to make it brief.

 

[danni]

No death row for him...

I was just reading the UCMJ and found this....

918. ART. 118. MURDER
Any person subject to this chapter whom without justification or excuse, unlawfully kills a human being, when he- -
(1) has a premeditated design to kill;
(2) intends to kill or inflict great bodily harm;
(3) is engaged in an act which is inherently dangerous to others and evinces a wanton disregard of human life; or
(4) is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of burglary, sodomy, rape, robbery, or aggravated arson;
is guilty of murder, and shall suffer such punishment as a court-martial may direct, except that if found guilty under clause (1) or (4), he shall suffer death or imprisonment for life as a court-martial may direct.


BBM

Nurse??? can you answer?
I didn't think military had a DP. but I do like the thought of the words SUFFER and DEATH being so close in the UCMJ.

 

[nursebeeme]

Number of Executions135 people have been executed by the Army since 1916 (Source: National Law Journal, 4/5/99)Date of last military executionOn April 13, 1961, U.S. Army Private John A. Bennett was hanged after being convicted of rape and attempted murder. (R. Serrano, "Last Soldier to Die at Levenworth Hanged in an April Storm," Los Angeles Times, 7/12/94).Minimum Age to Receive the Death Penalty18 yearsMethod of ExecutionLethal InjectionDeath Row LocationU.S. Disciplinary Barracks, Fort Leavenworth, KansasUnited States Military Death Row Roster and sentencing rateTotal: 9 (as of 1/1/2009)

Names: ​

• Kenneth Parker (B)
• [Wade L. Walker] (B)
• [Jessie Quintanilla] (A)
• [James T. Murphy] (B)
• Ronald Gray (B)
• Dwight J. Loving (B)
• [William Kreutzer] (W)
• Asan Akbar (B)
• Andrew Witt (W)

Race:

Black - 6
White - 2
Asian - 1


Gender:

Male - 9

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/us-military-death-penalty

 

[miss lisa]

the army has the death penalty... no worries

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/us-military-death-penalty

I was meaning that he wouldn't sit on death row for many many years.

 

[gibby207]

Thanks to everyone who explained what this guy would face going to Afghanistan.

O/T I just wanted to say that my son will be 15 shortly. All he's ever wanted to do is be a Marine. He's bound and determined to become one. The problem I have is I realized about a month ago that he'll be enlisting in three short years. I am really struggling with this. I end up in tears if I think too much about it. I guess my point is, my heart goes out to all the mom's who's kids are fighting for their country right now.

O/T: I understand completely... and if you ever wanna talk about it... I'm purdy open-minded....

 

[shadowangel]

the army has the death penalty... no worries

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/us-military-death-penalty

AND the death penalty can be imposed for uniquely military reasons...Such as committing a crime to avoid a hazardous duty. That would most likely include any defense of "I didnt want to deploy to a combat zone to kill blah blah blah...".

 

[nursebeeme]

I was just reading the UCMJ and found this....

918. ART. 118. MURDER
Any person subject to this chapter whom without justification or excuse, unlawfully kills a human being, when he- -
(1) has a premeditated design to kill;
(2) intends to kill or inflict great bodily harm;
(3) is engaged in an act which is inherently dangerous to others and evinces a wanton disregard of human life; or
(4) is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of burglary, sodomy, rape, robbery, or aggravated arson;
is guilty of murder, and shall suffer such punishment as a court-martial may direct, except that if found guilty under clause (1) or (4), he shall suffer death or imprisonment for life as a court-martial may direct.


BBM

Nurse??? can you answer?
I didn't think military had a DP. but I do like the thought of the words SUFFER and DEATH being so close in the UCMJ.

yes they do.. .did you see what I just posted above? this is the current list of those awaiting execution here at fort leavenworth. Last execution however was in 1961.. as with everything in the Army it is a SLOW process

 

[Silk]

I was meaning that he wouldn't sit on death row for many many years.

Yea, let Texas prosecute him. Ron White says they have a death penalty express lane...:woohoo:

 

[nursebeeme]

I was meaning that he wouldn't sit on death row for many many years.

oh but he could... the last execution here was in 1961. There is a waiting list of others to meet their maker..


http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/us-military-death-penalty

 

[gibby207]

I was meaning that he wouldn't sit on death row for many many years.

Yup... they have DP, and it's quick...

To trial!!! LOL

 

[danni]

yes they do.. .did you see what I just posted above? this is the current list of those awaiting execution here at fort leavenworth. Last execution however was in 1961.. as with everything in the Army it is a SLOW process

HAHA yea it took my post a minute to show up, my computer is about to blow the heck up! litterally it has been working so hard it is burning a hole in my leg. going to cool it down and be back maybe it will run faster.

 

[krazykidz]

it was just mentioned on larry king that this guy was promoted to major in april!!!! how weird...but then he apparently was given a poor performance review in may and subsequently transferred to fort hood in july (i think i remember). what is going on? and the military did not want to release the fact that he was alive...

 

[SuziQ]

Hmmmm, maybe he'll have medical complications.......

 

[nursebeeme]

Number of Executions135 people have been executed by the Army since 1916 (Source: National Law Journal, 4/5/99)Date of last military executionOn April 13, 1961, U.S. Army Private John A. Bennett was hanged after being convicted of rape and attempted murder. (R. Serrano, "Last Soldier to Die at Levenworth Hanged in an April Storm," Los Angeles Times, 7/12/94).Minimum Age to Receive the Death Penalty18 yearsMethod of ExecutionLethal InjectionDeath Row LocationU.S. Disciplinary Barracks, Fort Leavenworth, KansasUnited States Military Death Row Roster and sentencing rateTotal: 9 (as of 1/1/2009)

Names: ​

• Kenneth Parker (B)
• [Wade L. Walker] (B)
• [Jessie Quintanilla] (A)
• [James T. Murphy] (B)
• Ronald Gray (B)
• Dwight J. Loving (B)
• [William Kreutzer] (W)
• Asan Akbar (B)
• Andrew Witt (W)

Race:

Black - 6
White - 2
Asian - 1


Gender:

Male - 9

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/us-military-death-penalty

bumping the leavenworth stats