Found Deceased TX - Matthew Meinert, 38, Denton County, 6 March 2017

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shareemx said:
And it's been said they know Oliver hadn't been in the water since he was dry.


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Oh did they? I missed that, good call.

It's still weird for them to be so sure of that, because they found Oliver what, 14 hours after they think the "crash" or whatever happened?

If he was out there for that long I would think even if he had been in the water he would be either completely dry or close to it by that point, although I could be wrong and obviously it would depend to an extent on the temperature.

To be clear, given the circumstances he probably was not ever in the water, but I don't see anything to rule it out entirely.
 
When I was about 2 my dad was side swiped and I went out the open car window. (Before car seats were mandatory). I suffered a bit of road rash and nothing else and ended up with only 1/2 inch scar. 2 year olds are light and floppy so I could believe he could have been launched and scared that night, especially with that angle.

I've also seen a grown man fall out of one of those flat bottom boats. I was walking over a bridge and the boat was traveling underneath. A gentleman stood up to adjust his line and over he went. Luckily someone else was driving and stopped the boat. They were also wearing lifejackets. We stopped and made sure everyone was okay and continued on our way. (Not sure how he got back into the boat). If he didn't have lifejacket on and went over he may not have come up, especially with a medical emergency.

Growing up in MN, catching an hour or even less of fishing was normal for me, especially if I brought my siblings along. Fresh air and excitement entertained them and wore them out faster.

I'm inclined to believe it was an accident and he's in the water. I've read about gators in Lewisville lake, big ones. He could be tucked away for the moment (that sounds harsh, sorry).
 
Alligators don't eat humans, is the thing. Crocodiles do, but they aren't native to the area.
 
JeannaT said:
Alligators don't eat humans, is the thing. Crocodiles do, but they aren't native to the area.
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Alligators don't typically eat humans. But they can and I think they have.

Do I think that happened here? Not likely.

I think they will eventually find his body. But it's a pretty big lake so it could take a while.
 
Noodling around on facebook, his family's reaction is ODD. Posting cartoons about dogs, and pics of horses and birds.

I know everyone handles grief differently, but it also seems to me they may know something.
 
Yeah that's the fathers mother. Very odd.


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I feel so sad when it seems like us on WS care more than family members do about missing people. Not saying that here - have not seen the FB - but just in general.
 
Agree FB postings are odd. If my child were missing, no matter the age, I would be posting updates or notes to him, etc. Not jokes and bird pics.....everyone is different but it makes me think she knows he's ok????

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Facebook FOX 4 News also has a story posted 8 hours ago with some interesting comments, mainly just echoing our thoughts posted here. I did see a few family members coming to defend him but not sure how close, or not close, they are.
 
A $100 K ?????


Wow- this just gets stranger and stranger....
 
lmadler said:
Sometimes they do.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2015/07/04/us/texas-alligator-attack/index.html

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Even though I really don't think this is what happened here, just out of curiosity I did a search. I'm not going to quote any of the articles -except for the last one- because they are all a bit graphic, but apparently -though rarely- they do eat humans. It appears that in most fatal alligator attacks, the cause of death is drowning from being dragged underwater:

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS; LAKELAND, Fla. &#8212; Jun 10, 2016, 7:37 PM ET:
http://web.archive.org/web/20160612...identify-body-found-alligators-mouth-39771017

Tyler Vazquez, Florida Today; Published 6:06 p.m. ET Dec. 7, 2015:
http://www.floridatoday.com/story/n...kills-barefoot-bay-burglary-suspect/76950238/

BY DARYL GAY ON OCTOBER 24, 2007:
http://www.gon.com/news/woman-killed-by-alligator-in-georgias-first-recorded-fatal-attack

By Michael D. Lemonick; Sunday, May 21, 2006:
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1196427-2,00.html

By Lindsey Bever; June 16, 2016: "What you need to know about alligator attacks, according to Jack Hanna"
"'The person is the last thing a gator wants to go for &#8212; they&#8217;re afraid of human beings,' Hanna told Fox News. 'However, if it was hungry when this thing was happening, and there were ankles splashing around there, that to the gator is something the gator may want.'"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cording-to-jack-hanna/?utm_term=.74865f7f60be

ETA: "List of fatal alligator attacks in the United States"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_alligator_attacks_in_the_United_States
 
interestedincases said:
Agree FB postings are odd. If my child were missing, no matter the age, I would be posting updates or notes to him, etc. Not jokes and bird pics.....everyone is different but it makes me think she knows he's ok????

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Facebook FOX 4 News also has a story posted 8 hours ago with some interesting comments, mainly just echoing our thoughts posted here. I did see a few family members coming to defend him but not sure how close, or not close, they are.
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Can you post a link to his fb?

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inmyhumbleopinion said:
Even though I really don't think this is what happened here, just out of curiosity I did a search. I'm not going to quote any of the articles -except for the last one- because they are all are a bit graphic, but apparently -though rarely- they do eat humans. It appears that in most fatal alligator attacks, the cause of death is drowning from being dragged underwater:

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS; LAKELAND, Fla. — Jun 10, 2016, 7:37 PM ET:
http://web.archive.org/web/20160612...identify-body-found-alligators-mouth-39771017

Tyler Vazquez, Florida Today; Published 6:06 p.m. ET Dec. 7, 2015:
http://www.floridatoday.com/story/n...kills-barefoot-bay-burglary-suspect/76950238/

BY DARYL GAY ON OCTOBER 24, 2007:
http://www.gon.com/news/woman-killed-by-alligator-in-georgias-first-recorded-fatal-attack

By Michael D. Lemonick; Sunday, May 21, 2006:
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1196427-2,00.html

By Lindsey Bever; June 16, 2016: "What you need to know about alligator attacks, according to Jack Hanna"
"'The person is the last thing a gator wants to go for — they’re afraid of human beings,' Hanna told Fox News. 'However, if it was hungry when this thing was happening, and there were ankles splashing around there, that to the gator is something the gator may want.'"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cording-to-jack-hanna/?utm_term=.74865f7f60be

ETA: "List of fatal alligator attacks in the United States"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_alligator_attacks_in_the_United_States
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I'm a Texas coast native. Growing up we were warned about alligator. Never even recall seeing any in the saltgrass flats I grew up on. This is a curious case. Man and 2yrd old son go fishing. We did that alot as a couple when the kids were that age, never attempted 1 adult and toddler. The position of the boat, I find odd unless he caught air. I hope they search for the Dad close to where son was found. By the grace of god or a child who saw his father go away in the water. The baby didn't go to the water as most do. Could be they were both thrown from the boat.

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