Found Deceased TX - Michael Chambers, 70, Hunt County, 10 March 2017 #1

[Pmerle00]

Family and media have been quiet for a couple of days. Of course it's Good Friday, so it's not completely surprising, however I wonder if LE has made some headway behind the scenes and everyone is waiting to see what develops.

My thoughts are with the Chambers family and friends on this Easter weekend. Stay strong.

:grouphug:

We (family) have been frustrated with lack of new leads... I'm sure LE has as well. We all are going in fits and starts on this stuff, just trying to stay afloat.

 

[SavetheQueen]

Our DLs DO have signatures on them. I know they had filed taxes, but I'm checking to see if it was accepted by the IRS and whether they were due a refund. Do you know if there's a way to see if anyone else attempted to file a return under his name/social?

No worries - these are all good things that we can look into.

The IRS will reject the second return, and notify you.


*All statements are that of my own opinion unless otherwise specified.*

 

[Pmerle00]

RBBM.

Some very good points.

I wonder if LE would be able to tell if the blood was only hours old (i.e., between around 12 PM and 6 or 7 PM on the day PaPaw disappeared) or from an unrelated, earlier injury.

No sign of struggle found, according to LE.

The only items missing are cash, cell phone and his driver's license. I don't think we know if his hat was found in the garage. And I don't think we know what Papaw might have been wearing when he went missing, either ...? I don't know why I didn't realize this until now, but find it rather unusual for this information to be missing. Anything missing from his closet?

Personally, I think if PaPaw went anywhere willingly -unless due to an emergency-, he would have put his hat on.

Could he have run into someone that morning -while at Wal-Mart or elsewhere- who invited him out to lunch? The person tells PaPaw they will pick him up from home at, say, noon; since they are only going out to lunch and he isn't the one driving, PaPaw doesn't bother to take his wallet or keys with him, only taking cash and his phone, so that family and friends can still reach him. But then that still doesn't explain why the driver's license is missing ... :thinking:.

They are going to do additional testing on the blood for these very things, but it could still take a while. The DNA test came back much quicker than they expected, which is great.

Papaw almost ALWAYS wears blue sweats or grey shorts, a DFD t-shirt, tennis shoes and a DFD hat. It's like a uniform, almost. The Walmart video confirms this as well.

Nothing missing from his closet that we can tell.

If Papaw was not under duress, he would not have left his keys and wallet. I feel so strongly about this. For him to leave those things behind to me says something was well and truly wrong. His DL being missing is beyond bizarre. Just as he has a daily "uniform" of what he wears, those kinds of things have their place and the day doesn't proceed without them being there.

 

[Pmerle00]

I wish we had information on what he wore, if he changed clothes, his hat ect. Also, the towel count is important too. He had to have used something to put on his wound b fore leaving the shop or the blood trail would go everywhere. I'm just thinking too.



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He wouldn't have changed clothes - even if he was going to lunch with a friend.

There's no way to know how many towels there were, or whether any are missing, unfortunately. My husband keeps a stack of rags, and adds to it regularly, Papaw was much the same. They are kept in certain places, but other than that there's just no way to tell if they were used/unused/disturbed... The other thing is - the blood doesn't move toward the towel stacks at all, which I find unusual.

 

[sloane7777]

ok jumping in here When I first saw this on the news , I recalled something that happened to me, I was in the kitchen and cut myself pretty bad I wrapped it up in the t shirt edge I had on and headed for the bathroom .......20 min later I was sitting in my backyard staring at my neighbors fence ....not sure why but thank goodness I had a sports bra on because my t shirt was of and wrapped around my hand , and I don't remember a thing.... I've always attributed this to menopause but now I'm not so sure , Could he have done the same thing? maybe wandered off ? no holes or underground bunkers?

 

[Pmerle00]

Did he drink? At all? Asking because what if someone stopped by and asked him if he wanted to go have a beer at a local place? I don't know why you wouldn't take your entire wallet, but different people do different things. Just thinking of reasons why his DL would be removed.


*All statements are that of my own opinion unless otherwise specified.*

Yes, he does drink - not much, and not beer - but yes. Again, though, I feel strongly he would have taken his entire wallet and keys.

 

[Pmerle00]

Good thinking. Wasn't it mentioned earlier that he was wearing sweat pants? Maybe he didn't have pockets in the sweat pants but had like a pocket on his shirt? To avoid a bulge from the entire pocket he just grabbed what cash he had & his ID?


*All thoughts & opinions mentioned above are just that, MY random thoughts & opinions*

His sweatpants have pockets. I think all of them do, but I will check. I'll also see where he pulled his wallet out from the surveillance video.

 

[Pmerle00]

Yep. Same on this side of the state.


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I'm not sure about Hunt County - but that's how restaurants get around serving alcohol in "dry" areas. They make you a club member, and then the rules are different. When I was a waitress, this was my understanding of it.

I'm not sure whether he had membership cards for anywhere, I'll check into that.

 

[Pmerle00]

1. Yes, but it went dark shortly after he disappeared.
2. The wife is a nurse.
3. ?


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3. He has several cards, none are missing.

 

[Pmerle00]

Hi and thanks for stopping by with more answers. I've read through the thread but can't remember if anyone has asked about the bodies of water close to your Papaw's house. Was he a fisherman? Any fishing gear unaccounted for? What's that huge lake that's pretty close? Was he known to frequent that?

Continuing to hope for the best for you and your loved ones.

Lake Tawakoni is very close, and there's lots of water in the area - creeks, ponds, etc. The game warden has been checking those, and LE had a drone check shorelines of the lake.

He isn't a fisherman that I know of - he did some charter fishing on the coast, but I've not known him to just go fishing for the day locally. I will ask about the fishing equipment though.

 

[Pmerle00]

Does he suffer from nose bleeds?

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Not that I am aware of.

 

[Pmerle00]

Does he know the neighbors?
Was he in the habit of walking in the neighborhood?
Did the dogs alert at anything on the property other than the shop?

He knows immediate neighbors, I'm not positive about how far that radius of familiarity extends. I will ask.

I don't think he was in the habit of walking the area other than his own property for maintenance, but I will ask this as well.

The dogs went all over, but no fresh scents that could be followed. Papaw's scent is all over that place...

 

[Pmerle00]

Did he take medication daily? If so, you might count the pills and see if he accidentally took more then he was supposed too.

Yes - for high blood pressure. All is accounted for, though we are looking into whether the prescription was filled that day or in the days since he went missing.

 

[Pmerle00]

ok jumping in here When I first saw this on the news , I recalled something that happened to me, I was in the kitchen and cut myself pretty bad I wrapped it up in the t shirt edge I had on and headed for the bathroom .......20 min later I was sitting in my backyard staring at my neighbors fence ....not sure why but thank goodness I had a sports bra on because my t shirt was of and wrapped around my hand , and I don't remember a thing.... I've always attributed this to menopause but now I'm not so sure , Could he have done the same thing? maybe wandered off ? no holes or underground bunkers?

If he had just wandered off, the dogs would have had a good scent to follow right away. Good thinking, though.

 

[Razz]

This is what I'm having a hard time with. Why would someone go into the shed, hurt Pawpa, take out his ID and take what little money was left, take Pawpa and lock up behind them and turn off the lights all without leaving fingerprints? If it was a perp(s) it sounds as though they were being very careful with every aspect and it sounds premeditated.

Now I'm sorry but I need to ask this. Did Pawpa have a life insurance policy? Who gets the house? Who will get the cars. The only thing is.....
if this is in play, they'll need to find a body first.

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[SavetheQueen]

Yes, he does drink - not much, and not beer - but yes. Again, though, I feel strongly he would have taken his entire wallet and keys.

I feel he purposely left that wallet as a signal that something was amiss.


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[cnmccarthy]

I feel he purposely left that wallet as a signal that something was amiss.


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That's my thinking as well. Like he knew if he did something out of the norm (but didn't look suspicious to whoever was with him) it would make his wife get the police involved sooner.


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[skibaboo]

He didn't install any apps. All of the billing was under Becca's Apple ID. He really just needed it for talking and occasionally texting things like "ok" in response to other people... I am guessing the phone came free with their plan and that's the only reason he had anything so fancy.

Wait, even if he didn't install or purchase anything, did he register the iPhone under Beccas Apple ID? If so that might help LE get access to info on his phone

 

[Owl4]

This is what I'm having a hard time with. Why would someone go into the shed, hurt Pawpa, take out his ID and take what little money was left, take Pawpa and lock up behind them and turn off the lights all without leaving fingerprints? If it was a perp(s) it sounds as though they were being very careful with every aspect and it sounds premeditated.

Now I'm sorry but I need to ask this. Did Pawpa have a life insurance policy? Who gets the house? Who will get the cars. The only thing is.....
if this is in play, they'll need to find a body first.

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I asked the same questions as you and my statement was deleted. That was a few weeks ago.

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[Razz]

Let's just imagine for a moment that MC wanted to disappear.

He would need a DL, money and a phone. Let's say he's been silently building up his cash supply for awhile. He won't use a card because he doesn't want to leave a trail.

Maybe he calls a taxi to take him to the airport. He bought a ticket a while ago so he doesn't need cash for that.

He travels somewhere or to someone who will keep his
travel quiet. He gets rid of his SIM card and buys a new one.
He changes the address on his d.l.

But of course, for this to happen he'd need a reason.
It wouldn't explain the blood in the shop but it would explain why nothing was taken and why everything was shut up tight.

Is there a relative of the family that lives away from Quinlan and someone who will keep his disappearance quiet?

This sounds a tad far fetched for Pawpa but who really knows what goes on inside another's mind?

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